Greg, I'm sorry I didn't see this sooner! The IBM Archives have a microfiche machine and can read the data and can digitize it. However, the archivist says that he would need to ask somebody in IBM Legal if it could be released back to the public. I know that IBM released most of their VM/ESA code with the product, but not all; stuff considered confidential was distrubuted as "OCO - Object Code Only" in the form of binary blobs of data. If the data this guy has he got from his job at the Toronto transit authority, then it is highly likely it is the code that was shipped with the VM/ESA tapes itself, and there is a high liklihood that it could be released back to the public. However, they _would_ need to reach out to somebody in IBM Legal about it first and get the all-clear. If you are going to be at the swap meet/workshop this weekend, I can talk about it in more detail. Regards, Dan FitzGerald They/Them/Theirs http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/dfitzger -----Original Message----- From: Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8@gmail.com> To: Dan FitzGerald <danjfitzgerald@comcast.net> Cc: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Fiche documentation for all of VM/ESA Date: 10/25/2023 04:35:02 PM Hello! Dave M spoke up first, but, ah, we'd need to see about what happens next. What's involved in reading the fiche, and making physical, read printed copies of it? I know they do that on Bit Savers, but I'd never asked them about it. Incidentally they are still packaged in shrink wrapped plastic and the box is stuffed with papers from the sender, it was a fellow who worked or still works for the Toronto mass transit authorities. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8@gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 1:03 PM Dan FitzGerald <danjfitzgerald@comcast.net> wrote:
As the team lead for the IBM CIO's z/VM squad, and the curator of the Classical Computing Laboratory at IBM Poughkeepsie, I most certainly would want it if nobody else takes it.
Regards, Dan FitzGerald They/Them/Theirs http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/dfitzger
-----Original Message----- From: Gregg Levine via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Reply-To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> To: vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org Cc: Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8@gmail.com> Subject: [vcf-midatlantic] Fiche documentation for all of VM/ESA Date: 10/18/2023 05:24:02 PM
Hello! One of the people on the regular Z/VM list many years ago had a copy of the Fiche behind VM/ESA (I do not know what version), this is the entire source code reduced to Fiche. Would the actual VCF offices in NJ want these? Failing that does anyone on the list want these? Please note that the box is a heavy one.
Oh and the wandering dino is currently asleep inside the (new) warehouse area. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8@gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."