I couldn’t agree more. You have to try the keyboard out. While you think squishy key caps will help with fatigue it’s actually the actuation of the switch that causes the issue. This is why there are so many choices in switches for cherry. You need to find the one that matches your typing style with the least fatigue and then make compromises on things like sound level and travel. A good keyboard is not cheap and can cost more than an entire chrome book laptop. Some people just get old IBM PC keyboards and use an adapter since they were a good compromise and really good for touch typing. Personally I’m a sadist and would rather use a PCjr chicklet keyboard, but then again we all know I’m a couple of “sandwiches short of a picnic”. Cheers, Corey corey cohen uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 21, 2018, at 1:49 AM, Jeff Salzman via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Find a Microcenter store. Play around with all the sample keyboards they have in their keyboard aisle until you find one that feels like you want a keyboard to feel.
On Nov 21, 2018 3:12 AM, "Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic" < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I would add to this the suggestion of getting a key switch "tester". This is essentially a collection of different types of key switches, not connected to anything, on some sort of a mounting board. (usually not a PCB) This will allow you to evaluate each one, as they're very different, to see which one you like best. Then you can go find a keyboard built with that type of key mechanism. This is a pretty common thing, they're all over Amazon.
I live on my keyboard, and I'm a big fan of Cherry MX Blue key switches. These are loud as hell, but I work in a private lab so there's nobody to disturb with noise. I can *fly* on this keyboard, with much less hand fatigue than I'd gotten from my previous keyboards.
I have never been a PC person; I grew up on workstation-class hardware. When you're using a VAXstation, you used a DEC LK201 or LK401 keyboard. Nothing else would work on those systems. Likewise when I moved to Sun systems, starting with the Sun "Type 2" keyboard on a Sun2 (not SPARC-2) system. Again, nothing else was compatible. It's a good thing that these were, with very rare exceptions, very good keyboards. But the point is, all my life I never really had the notion of "choosing" a keyboard, like PC users have. I got what the vendor provided, because nothing else would work with those systems.
Now with an i7 on my desk (now that these crappy PeeCee processors are almost as fast as a decade-old SPARC!) it suddenly occurred to me that I do in fact have a wide range of options, when for the past couple of years I had just bounced back and forth between a Sun Type7 keyboard and an Apple aluminum keyboard, both USB, and both excellent. I went with the Cherry MX Blue, TKL (ten-key-less, just a main keyboard and a cursor pad), with nice thick heavy key caps. Unlabeled key caps, because I know damn well where the keys are after 40+ years at a keyboard.
The specific keyboard I chose (but with different keycaps) is a HyperX Alloy FPS Pro, purchased via Amazon. It's built like a tank; the keycaps are seated in a thick, heavy metal plate. This is marketed toward the game crowd, but that's essentially irrelevant. I do not play games. Heavy software/hardware development is a very similar use case...albeit with less shouting, grunting, and unemployment.
Choice of keyboard is very personal and very important. It can truly make the difference between hating sitting at a machine and loving it. Do yourself a favor, take the time to evaluate what's out there and pick the one that works best for your usage patterns. You won't get out of it for less than $100, but that keyboard will likely last most of the rest of your life.
Sorry for the long-windedness; this is a big subject.
-Dave
On 11/21/18 1:08 AM, Mark Whittington via vcf-midatlantic wrote: Generally a decent quality mechanical keyboard with Cherry MX switches will cost somewhere in the neighborhood of $100. You can go a lot higher, and occasionally you'll find something a bit lower. There are a number of variants of the Cherry MX switches with different characteristics (tactile response, audible click, etc). Here's a primer on the various types:
https://www.keyboardco.com/blog/index.php/2012/12/an-introduction-to-cherry-...
Since you're looking at silicone keycaps, you probably want a non-click switch like the Cherry MX Brown. Something like this perhaps: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126445
You're not likely to find a keyboard with those keycaps preinstalled, so figure out what type of key switch you'd like and then find a keyboard
with
those keys. Any of the Cherry MX "colors" should work with those keycaps.
Massdrop doesn't seem to be running that drop right now, but as usual there's a seller on aliexpress that can sell you some.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Arrival-104-Silicone-Keycaps-Blank-Keyca...
Let me know if you have other questions.
On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 11:50 PM Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I'm thinking about getting a new keyboard for my modern PC.
I want to use squishy keycaps such as these:
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/silica-gel-keycap-set
It says they're Cherry MX compatible.
Does that mean they only work with official Cherry-branded keyboards?
Or
is there some other search term to use (etc.) for keyboards that are Cherry-compatible? It suggests that those keycaps will fit on Cherry MX key switches.
But how do I know what keyboards have such switches?
-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA