Responding to various comments about the former Trenton Computer Fest (now called "TCF" apparently), please note I'm merely an attendee but I have some clues about it. It's pretty clear that the flea-market and old computer aspects of the event are largely lost. It's become a ham-license event and topics related to personal, professional, and hobby "computing" or rather personal information technology. But the talks cover a lot of you-can-do stuff, and are informative on related matters. The flea market was indeed small, one large room with almost all dealer-class participants, but some amounted to individuals. our colleage Justin brought a TI 990/4 system; there was a C-64 system, otherwise no other vintage computers I saw. But hamfests in the NJ-PA area have mostly lost vintage-computing stuff in the 21st century; and most professional personal-computing stuff. Hamfests are fewer and smaller; although I'm told there's more radio amateur licenses than ever. about "booths": there were only a handful. Few exhibits. I guess exhibits and booths weren't encouraged this year. I have a sense that the administration of the event is changing. I went to a number of talks; quality varied. Mostly speakers overran their hour, they outta work on their presentations. Talks varied from lock-picking to solar-panel technology. But I suggest looking at VCF in another way. Every year, the "old ones" come out, to see each other and catch up or look back. The event is run by people of age, the amazing thing is that it happens at all. Some years it didn't. I have no problem with attending to meet people I've not seen in years, to be met by people who only know me from email. I see TCF as an opportunity to see people and hear from people. I have people stop me in recognition; I arranged to meet someone, we had lunch. and by-the-way: there's now a number of real, actual restaurants on the TCNJ campus. I saw few attendees there, probably because the College ran a food-in-baggies kiosk in the building. Also: the Sarnoff Collection is a short walk from the Engineering building. It's a decent small museum of RCA technology, including some early COSMAC 1802 items and Joseph Weisbecker's computer, a TTL predecessor to the 1802. It's a New Jersey - designed microprocessor. I've done some work for the museum. I appreciate Justin's comments, and his position that he can participate and make a difference. Sounds like a plan. Herb Johnson old one retrotechnology.com -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net