I know that I'm "pushing" the vintage console front, but likely, with the Apple Mega exhibit, it's likely that I wouldn't be able to do one this year either. My main point is that unlike appliances that used microprocessors (scopes, meters, manufacturing control systems). Gaming consoles have always been "computers". Not just a computerized component of a larger device. Yes, just because something has a microprocessor in it doesn't make it a computer. But that's more seen in more modern appliances, TV's, Air Conditioners, refrigerators, even coffee makers. Now even light bulbs have processors in them. But I wouldn't call my GE Wink LED bulb a "computer". But would I call my PS4/XBOX a computer? Yes. But again, far from vintage.. On Saturday, December 17, 2016, Tony Bogan via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On Dec 17, 2016, at 11:09 AM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
I would say that it would be very cool to have an Atari exhibit, and the 2600 world not be completely out of place from a historic context, as the technology in it (in particular, the TIA) was the progenitor of the Atari 400/800 and Amiga.
Yes; what I'm saying is an exhibit about * only * game consoles wouldn't fit in. There has to be more to it than "it used a microprocessor and computer people like games".
If someone else is interested, one of my ideas for my personal exhibit this coming VCF was to show computers and consoles that shared the same (or the same family) processors. Partly to show the different things done with them and partly to show how the same Processors were used in more than one type of appliance and to show the different directions the home electronics went in (computers vs dedicated gaming consoles)
hell right through the PowerPC from '92 (relevant to vintage computing still....somewhat...:-) You have variants of the PowerPC running GameCube, Xbox 360, PS3 all the way back to Zilog z80 in the colecovision, 6502 in The Atari 5200 (the 2600 was a 650x something too wasn't it?)
You get the point. I was trying to think of a way to combine my passion for computers and consoles into a display.
Anyone wants to run with the idea I'll gladly donate hardware if I have it. (Computers and consoles) The Mega Apple Display is likely going to preclude me from doing a personal exhibit because of time and hardware constraints. Tony
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