I'm sorry I couldn't help clean up, but I had to catch my flight back home to Indiana today. It seemed like a better coordination of volunteers would help avoid these pain points. I know that from running and then helping to run VCFMW since the first one, if you don't pre-arrange volunteers, you shouldn't expect anyone to be around to help. We all have busy lives, especially during the holidays. Also, I suspect that if people could stay over to help, instead of having to go back to their home a good distance away, or one of the somewhat expensive or sketchy local hotels, it would be easier to get volunteers. Not everyone can justify the expense of getting a hotel nearby just to maybe help out before/after events when they don't know if they're going to be needed. Patrick Finnegan On Sun, Dec 14, 2025, 17:41 Joseph Giliberti via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I didn't win, so that's irrelevant. My initial complaint is not me being a bad loser, it's legitimate and I know that it's an opinion shared by many. Members of the steering committee especially should be of the mentality that they will do the work necessary to get the reward. Some are and some aren't. If this discussion is terminated, nothing is going to change. If there can be reasonable discussion on the issue, change is possible. I was frustrated this morning and it came through in my email. I'm still frustrated. Jeff B, Jeff J, Bernie S and I all worked our asses off today to clean up after the party. Jeff B, Bill I. and I worked our asses off to set up the party. Thanks and appreciation is all well and good, but actions are what matter.