On Wed, May 1, 2024 at 3:07 PM Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I'm only talking about the music. The graphic and clicks are fine!
Why is the music no good:
people wouldn't like it cause they cannot recognize it? Yes. If they don't recognize it, its a waste of their attention. Why play a trick on them with something? played backwards?
The author didn’t intend to trick people, only to make it “more upbeat”. I would argue that it doesn’t have to be recognizable. Look at other YouTube bumpers. They are original and not copied from another author. In this case since it is from 1892, then I would say it is in the public domain. I think the goal is to make it a fun, appealing, unique tune that can be associated with VCF. I feel that it better to have something than nothing. I’m open to suggestions or offers of a composer creating a new one that is royalty free.
If you don't like that 7 second clip what are other suggestions? The clip is OK, just drop that nonsense "music". It is already and obscure reference, and playing it backwards is aweful. The notes of the song are actually not recognizable, but the melody sung is. This uses the otherwise unrecognizable musical notes of the song and reverses them too. Its a cruel joke.
On 5/1/2024 2:55 PM, Andrew Diller wrote:
I disagree. First, it's just 7 seconds of the music, 2 seconds of the typing noise.
How does the general public factor into your assessment? Do you mean that people wouldn't like it cause they cannot recognize it? Just wondering and hoping for more words about that statement.
I think the sound is short, interesting, and sparse enough to be excellent soundscape for the bumper.
If you don't like that 7 second clip what are other suggestions?
-andy
On May 1, 2024, at 2:21 PM, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I'm not a fan of the use of it here in this case for the general public.
but played backwards and tweaked Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh! WHY? Just to make it completely obscured?
The sung melody might be OK or at least be recognizable. The IBM computer sang the song. (which interestingly sounds amazing like the SAM voice famously on the C64 and other platforms.) But I wouldn't want to suffer through it every bumper play.
On 5/1/2024 12:40 AM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 11:11 PM Bob Flanders via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I think it would be enough to have the logo appear without letters then the typing. it's fun the first time, but after a few vids it would get ... uncomfortable.
This tune in this bumper was a "Daisy Bell" from 1892 by Harry Dacre. It was the first singing song on an IBM 7094, but played backwards and tweaked with the tone so it sounded more upbeat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41U78QP8nBk Full story on this song is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_vDpMz7IZk We thought it was very historical, but it seems that some people don't like it. We're open to other ideas. Jeff
On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 11:02 PM Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
We had a volunteer create a bumper for our future VCF videos. What
does
everyone think?
Can anyone identify: 1) The computer starting up 2) The song 3) The keyboard making the clicking sounds?
Take care!
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-- Douglas Crawford VCF Mid-Atlantic Museum Mgr InfoAge Science & History Museums 2201 Marconi Road Wall, NJ 07719