I have my feet in a lot of different hobbies, but this debate is common to pretty much all of them. It's especially common in the vintage TV\CRT hobby and antique radio fields. There are "fishtankers" who turn the TVs into aquariums, or dioramas, and there are the upcyclers who turn console radios into mini bars. there are also the folks that try to do the industrial/steampunk look, with various degrees of craftsmanship invested. Then there are the parts folks who rip working things apart to sell the valuable things, like the high-value tubes ripped out of oscilloscopes, or pulling knobs, or old crts from common vintage TVs, etc. The car parts as art people were already mentioned - trunk sofas, bumpers for wall shelves, etc. There are also those that take stock cars and turn them into movie cars (time machines, general lees, and so on). Facebook groups show this argument time and time again. There's no shortage of "white knights" who claim how awful it was that something was "arted", but are also quite often the same people that are not willing to drive out of their way to pick up something offered up for free, or have no space to store more stuff because they are already at capacity. It all comes down to the same thing - there is a lot of stuff out there in the world, the vast majority of society likes to march onward rather than look backward, and those of us who wish to preserve things from the past for what they were, are a minority. We as individuals can't save it all, and frankly, not everything needs to be saved. I personally am in the "look backward" camp. I have a lot of artifacts from a lot of different hobbies. I clearly appreciate history, but I also appreciate the "arters". At the end of the day only so many people care about working 50s TVs and room-sized computers, and if additional small pieces of these things survive in artwork form, then it still keeps more out of the landfill and it survives into the future a little bit longer. I think there is enough stuff out there for everyone. There's room for the art folk and the historians, and it sounds like in this case we have one who is conscious of the hobby and has done their research and is still making some of the stuff available to the hobby. Respectfully, Matt On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 7:13 PM Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
It's most likely nickel, not FeO2 that had been removed.
-Dave
On 4/17/19 7:05 PM, Brian Brubaker via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
The 4 27" platters I got , I'm 99" sure someone previously removed the top layer from them as they now look silver not like the one in the link included below. My plan is to make 4 tables out of them, similar to the one in the link below, but with my own art added on top, in a clear resin epoxy.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://stupidevilbasta...
On Wed, Apr 17, 2019, 12:47 PM Brian Brubaker <brianbrubaker@gmail.com> wrote:
I definitely buy drives from ebay, and sometimes the drives are working. The two rarest drives/platters I've bought were a .85" drive, aka the smallest drive with moving parts, and 4 27" platters from an IBM 350. The majority of the drives I've bought are sold as scrap, the small percentage of larger industrial drives most all came from California. Most of these larger drives were listed for sale on e-mail for 6+ months, occasionally lowering their prices to a point where I could justify buying them. The other times I made offers and they accepted. Most of the time I ended up spending more on shipping then the drives themselves.
I started making my art out of a love of hard drives, I shared it here with the thought of all people this group might be able to appreciate what I'm trying to do. If I was wrong, I won't bother the group again.
On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 12:15 PM Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I understood from one of his posts that he was purchasing drives on the market, for sometimes serious money. If I misinterpreted his statement, please let me know, in which case I will apologize and move
on.
-Dave
On 4/17/19 10:54 AM, Drew Notarnicola via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
No need to be mean to the guy. If he's using scrap parts then I don't
see
what the big issue is.
On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 4:24 PM Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
On April 16, 2019 4:10:56 PM Brian Brubaker <brianbrubaker@gmail.com
wrote:
> It seems you've missed my intentions, all I'll say is I thought of all > people you all could appreciate my art, if I was wrong, I'm very sorry > to have bothered you.
I'm sure you are a talented artist. I for one would likely appreciate your art a lot more if you didn't destroy what I've worked for years trying to preserve when you create it.
At the very least you could learn something from the reactions you've gotten, but you don't seem to have that capacity either.
> Before you start calling someone unintelligent you might want to avoid > threats in a digital medium.
Predictable. New to the net, too, I see.
...and, I take that as a threat!
-Dave
-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA