This is the main reason why I have not exhibited in the past or possibly not in the future. I’ve considered two separate exhibits, I put to much consideration into the flack or “peer pressure”. Mike Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.
On Aug 8, 2022, at 3:12 PM, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I'm very sorry to hear you had that experience. Please contact me off list. We cannot have valuable contributors dissuaded from exhibiting. We have to stop infighting. I don't want to hear of anyone getting crap for what they exhibit. It is a ton of work to prepare something for public exhibit. Thank you all who do it year after year.
Gaming helped push the tech along in many instances. Sometimes its just the most fun and interesting way to demo hardware. Sometimes it represents innovations in software development. Spacewar on DEC Prince of Persia developed on Apple II. DOOM on NeXT. InfoCom on... everything... a marvel of the portable text game engine. You should have suffered nothing at all for your SGI exhibit.
In the micromputer foundations, 1977, when Jobs and Wozniak brought the Apple I to the Atlantic City Personal Computing Trade Fair, right there adverts bold words it features "computer gaming". http://www.shiro1000.jp/hist/apple/PC76.jpg
"Too boot" we even share processor technology even with the game consoles. Computers and consoles are cousins. First damn cousins. So we need to let up a bit on any close minded attitudes there too. There's a little room for all cousins. Blood relatives.
On 8/8/2022 2:34 PM, Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic wrote: I kind of feel the opposite way but two people can look at a painting and have different perspectives. When I brought a bunch of SGIs to VCF and networked them and played BZFLAG and Dogfight, I got flack for that. I kept explaining how things like this were huge at the time, but nope. And if you noticed. I never demoed again... ever.. Now I go. I watch, I volunteer and clean up. But I don't really want to demo.
On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 2:19 PM Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Just to jump in...I think 80s computing is/was fantastic. What rubs me the wrong way is this widespread perception that it was always only about games and nothing else. It disrespects the entire industry, its achievements, and its people to reduce the groundbreaking work that transformed society to toys for tots.
-Dave
-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA