Just wanted to add it's unfortunate we have to end a thread like this because it's OT. I enjoyed reading everyone's thoughts on this topic. I assume if weather is better for future festivus events or other gatherings we can continue the discussion there :) John On Mar 5, 2018 1:35 PM, "Joseph Oprysko via vcf-midatlantic" < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote: I don’t think of anyone here as a villain, while it is off the topic of vintage computers, it’s a technology that had touched many different parts of society. And as an emerging “consumer” technology, I felt it was a good topic for discussion. Just as everyone here has their own opinions of various vintage systems (Apple vs Commodore vs Atari vs Z80 machines, and so on). People are entitled to their opinions. It doesn’t make someone right or wrong, a good or bad guy. On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 12:25 PM Tony Bogan via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
the more sophisticated the industrial printers get, the more sophisticated the home ones will get
Oh yeah? And what pays for that "sophistication?" better print heads or lasers cost more. good lead screws, better bearings cost more than
threaded
rod. More mechanical features ADD to costs. These are not computer-bits of intellectual property that cost zero in production. These are physical tangible items that you can't "shrink" like shrinking chip-logic. Compare the physical features of your $200 printer, to a $1000- $3000 3D printer.
Nit picking small parts of herbs response since others already addressed the rest, mass production will help pay for that sophistication. Even parts that have not been "shrunk" in size can come down in cost when production runs are increased. Yes, supply chain issues and demand issues can reverse that if demand out strips supply etc, but larger production runs are just one of several answers to that question. The rest are as well known as that one answer.
I don't see you as a "villain" either Herb. I love your well reasoned responses to this and many other topics that come up, off topic or not! It's that give and take and back and forth and opposite/competing points of view that make this discussion list one of my favorites!!! Your passion for discussion is always enjoyed from my perspective and I've learned a great deal sitting back and watching or sometimes participating in those various discussions. Tony
-- Normal Person: Hey, it seems that you know a lot. Geek: To be honest, it's due to all the surfing I do. Normal Person: So you go surfing? Normal Person: But I don't think that has anything to do with knowing a lot... Geek: I think that's wrong on a fundamental level. Normal Person: Huh? Huh? What?