I was contacted by someone in Italy, who is trying to get an HP86b computer and its GP-IB connected floppy drive back into operation. He has limited technical skills, and limited English. But he seems to be finding the right Web sites with information on the computer. The HP seems to be operating but not recognizing the drive; he'd cleaned the drive to get the gunky grease out. What he lacks, is some local help in his native Italy. USA discussion groups speak in colloquial English, hard to read and write. They won't be patient as he learns to describe actions in English. Myself, I've not worked much with these, I'd have to (re)learn them to help, which is not my priority. Who is working with these old HP desktop computers in Europe, these days? Herb Johnson -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net