Just to describe (again) how I post and read, if it's informative. For some with send or receive issues, this may be a "plan B". My reasons for these methods don't matter. I write an email with my email client on my computer, with the email address of the list vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org as "to:", and the subject line in this case cut-and-pasted from the maillist Web page archive of messages (as this one was). That seems to work, to insert my message in the correct "thread" (I'll find out again after sending) but possibly out of "reply tree" order. I send it of course, from the email account and name I registered on the list. Sending from another email account, of course, would be rejected as "you aren't registered here". My emails are text-only, but there are some embedded ASCII formatting (my trailer below appears as grey not black text when I read it). I read the list from the list's Web address for the archive, http://lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org/pipermail/vcf-midatlantic/ ..which may be a little hard to find. And it may require a "cookie" to validate access to that Web page (or may not). I have access to messages by date, topic, author and to individual message. I don't guarantee what I've described is correct or accurate. If not, others can offer corrections, if the methods are worth documenting. I was going to describe how some of the emails I recieved before disabling email distribution, and describe how some of them look on the Web interface. The simplest thing I can say, is that some messages seem to have HTML which does not readily display content; the content is visible when looking in "source mode", ignoring all HTML tags and displaying them as embedded in the text. ASCII inspection of "ill formed" messages may be informative to the knowledgeable. My point is: this means of writing to the list, and to read the list, ought to be available to anyone with means to construct emails as I've described, and to browse the Web (presuming the archive is visible to non-subscribers). And so it's a "plan B" when one's primary access has issues. HErb -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net