The numbering scheme of the InfoAge facility has always baffled me, until I saw that map. Just seeing the numbering/lettering in context with everything else really helps -- thanks! -Alexander 'Z' Pierson On Monday, August 9, 2021, 1:03:35 AM EDT, Herb Johnson via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote: Tony Bogan and Martin Flynn: Trying to get to only the points I raised, not about the entirety of VCF-East or the entirety of InfoAge's development plans. One issue I called out - was a site map, that people (as in vcfed.org email list readers) could find, to follow all the "Building 98.6A" references. Tony and Martin respond: http://compdecon.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/campus_map.jpg It works to identify building numbers. Good. No complaint for an immediate interim response. Thank you, Martin. A better map would reference organizations too. Um, it puts VCF in the CompDecon building. Also: Tony uses location terms like "Broadway" (a connecting hallway), some street names too. I'm giving feedback, OK? Maps are not easy to construct. You know: in the old days, one might have a "key" - a simple list that says "member organization .... building number(s)". I think adding that list to the map shown would be adequate. Related point: such a map ought to be findable by people on this vcfed-mid list. Logic suggests, that map ought to be "on" vcfed.org. Of course it could be housed and maintained anywhere, including compdecon.org. Just add links at vcfed.org and "talk" about it there. Then Google will find it and people from this list can find it, which is the point I raised. If it helps other Infoage groups, so much the better. Thank you. Point two. I suggested the building developments, might interfere with VCF-East preparations and operations, in the next 60 days. That really was my only point. Tony says, quoting fully his relevant response:
The warehouse and museum spaces are not integral parts of VCF east, and no change of Museum venue will happen anywhere‘s near this VCF east or next year’s. This is going to be a multi year endeavor ...
OK. The timeline and scope was not in Tony's first announcement. Tony in his replies, expanded the scope and suggested an 18-month or more timeline. I asked, and Tony addressed my immediate concern. Maybe others were concerned too, namely the ones who might be volunteers. Thank you. That said, Tony also said "Warehouse work will begin as soon as possible". Well, don't exhaust people working on VCF-East, please. As for "the museum is not an integral part of VCF-East". It's moot if the Museum is stable through early Oct 2021. But Museum tours with VCF-East add value to the event; for people who travel far it's their only opportunity. Ask previous attendees. again, that was my point. --------------------- So from what Tony adds, this is an Infoage "capital improvements" plan. From what I know, it's likely like other InfoAge plans which replaced roofs and wiring and structural changes plus interior work - done professionally and by volunteers. It's not just moving stuff and painting walls - which has also been Infoage work. All I can say, is that the more you inform people on this list, the more they can offer support and assistance. Raising funds and development of buildings and plans are matters outside the scope of this list. They may NOT be, outside the scope of some individuals on this list; so don't miss opportunities to attract such persons to the project. Tony said "I hope you are excited [Herb]." Well, I plan ahead. The result sounds great. But *executing the plan* is what gets you there.
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