Only two or three people expressed interest in seeing the Princeton U. data center, and I had a different reason to be on their campus today, so I asked for a last-minute tour and my contact their obliged. They have multiple data centers. Most of them are production IT. The one they showed me has some IT but mostly it's science: https://facilities.princeton.edu/projects/high-performance-computing-researc... I was blown away by how clean it is inside! :) It's almost mostly lights-out -- I only saw two employees during the 60-minute tour, and the lights went on/off automatically as we traversed the hallways. Pictures (personal use only): http://tinyurl.com/y2n2g4se The files called electric.jpg, standby.jpg, pipes.jpg, and overview.jpg are self-explanatory. Financial.jpg is a cage with special security for one rack that's used with credit card transactions. Super_hp.jpg is "TIGER" -- their HPE-designed supercomputer. IBM_9.jpg is their newest machine under construction. I spotted some interesting older equipment (can't say what yet) which might fit into VCF-land :), so hopefully we can make that happen. -- Evan Koblentz, executive director Vintage Computer Federation www.vcfed.org evan@vcfed.org (646) 546-9999 VCF is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization