Apple II Classroom - Thank you and a challenge
Hi Everyone, On behalf of Tony Bogan, Javier Rivera, Stephen Edwards, Dean Notarnicola and myself, we would like to thank everyone for making the Apple II Classroom such a wonderful success. Almost every class was overflowing all three days! We have all talked and would like to publicly challenge the Commodore community to create a Commodore classroom at VCF East 2023! Best wishes, -Adam
On behalf of Tony Bogan, Javier Rivera, Stephen Edwards, Dean Notarnicola and myself, we would like to thank everyone for making the Apple II Classroom such a wonderful success. Almost every class was overflowing all three days!
We have all talked and would like to publicly challenge the Commodore community to create a Commodore classroom at VCF East 2023!
What a fun time it was! Everyone was very engaged, both class proctors and attendees alike! It was a long road to finally get there (adam and I started the planning for this about 5 years ago, then right before it was to happen the pandemic hit) but it was well worth the wait. Back in 2017 or so when we formulated this plan (it was Adam’s original idea) we agreed that ideally we’d like to see a different platform each year. This way by the time the Apple II was set to return it would be 4-5 years later. Apple, then Commodore, then Atari, then Tandy, (perhaps others) then back to Apple again. The order is irrelevant of course. Thank you to everyone that participated and the multitude of people who offered their help from beginning to end to make this become a reality. Tony Bogan
Was this recorded? I'd be curious to see what went on. -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 2:34 PM Neil Cherry via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Was this recorded? I'd be curious to see what went on.
No. The Apple 2 classroom was not recorded.
-- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
Since it wasn't recorded can you discuss what you did (sorry I missed the event). Would be useful for the others to setup their classes. Tony did you have an itinerary or slides? I remember setting up Middlesex County College's Apple IIs (and PCs). That was a lot of work. The classroom brought back those (fond) memories. I was always impressed with the original Apple disk drive (there was nothing to it). And despite being an Atari guy (A8 mostly) I loved the ROM monitor in the Apple II. That's why I put Omnimon in all my A8's. -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
On behalf of myself and Doug Crawford (the only person I spoke to about this so far), CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! We'll show you! Just kidding, all respect to the great work the Apple guys did. Now to just find a few Commodore computers that actually work (I am not serious, but Tony Bogan would have made the joke if I didn't beat him to the punch!). Looking forward to it! Chris Fala On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 2:25 PM Tony Bogan via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
On behalf of Tony Bogan, Javier Rivera, Stephen Edwards, Dean Notarnicola and myself, we would like to thank everyone for making the Apple II Classroom such a wonderful success. Almost every class was overflowing all three days!
We have all talked and would like to publicly challenge the Commodore community to create a Commodore classroom at VCF East 2023!
What a fun time it was! Everyone was very engaged, both class proctors and attendees alike! It was a long road to finally get there (adam and I started the planning for this about 5 years ago, then right before it was to happen the pandemic hit) but it was well worth the wait.
Back in 2017 or so when we formulated this plan (it was Adam’s original idea) we agreed that ideally we’d like to see a different platform each year. This way by the time the Apple II was set to return it would be 4-5 years later. Apple, then Commodore, then Atari, then Tandy, (perhaps others) then back to Apple again. The order is irrelevant of course.
Thank you to everyone that participated and the multitude of people who offered their help from beginning to end to make this become a reality.
Tony Bogan
On 4/26/2022 6:17 PM, Chris Fala via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Now to just find a few Commodore computers that actually work (I am not serious, but Tony Bogan would have made the joke if I didn't beat him to the punch!).
Oh, I don't know, feel free to be serious there. Even though I should not have been surprised, I was taken aback when Bil referenced a number of times that once they got yields of IC wafers up enough to have MTBF on the ICs just past the warrantee period, more process improvement was strenuously frowned upon. Given that, either the engineers secretly worked to improve MTBF on the process, or the platform got very lucky. Still, 40 years for an NMOS IC is asking a lot. Jim -- RETRO Innovations, Contemporary Gear for Classic Systems www.go4retro.com store.go4retro.com
You are correct, Jim, of course. But don't tell the Apple guys! On a different topic, I am sure I am not the only one who is very glad you were able to attend this year. The efforts you go to for the hobby make a big impact. I know you made a huge effort to drive so far and I want you to know it was appreciated! It was great speaking with you, and I am sure I meant to buy something so I'll have to get back to you on that. :-) Thanks, Chris On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 7:26 PM RETRO Innovations via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
On 4/26/2022 6:17 PM, Chris Fala via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Now to just find a few Commodore computers that actually work (I am not serious, but Tony Bogan would have made the joke if I didn't beat him to the punch!).
Oh, I don't know, feel free to be serious there. Even though I should not have been surprised, I was taken aback when Bil referenced a number of times that once they got yields of IC wafers up enough to have MTBF on the ICs just past the warrantee period, more process improvement was strenuously frowned upon.
Given that, either the engineers secretly worked to improve MTBF on the process, or the platform got very lucky.
Still, 40 years for an NMOS IC is asking a lot.
Jim
-- RETRO Innovations, Contemporary Gear for Classic Systems www.go4retro.com store.go4retro.com
We'll build up a bunch of those interface cables I demonstrated years ago at VCF and give everybody two C64 computers at their stations so they can write assembly code on one machine and compile it directly to RAM on the the other without having to constantly restart their machines between programming and testing. On Tue, Apr 26, 2022, 7:18 PM Chris Fala via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
On behalf of myself and Doug Crawford (the only person I spoke to about this so far), CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! We'll show you! Just kidding, all respect to the great work the Apple guys did. Now to just find a few Commodore computers that actually work (I am not serious, but Tony Bogan would have made the joke if I didn't beat him to the punch!). Looking forward to it!
Chris Fala
On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 2:25 PM Tony Bogan via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
On behalf of Tony Bogan, Javier Rivera, Stephen Edwards, Dean Notarnicola and myself, we would like to thank everyone for making the Apple II Classroom such a wonderful success. Almost every class was overflowing all three days!
We have all talked and would like to publicly challenge the Commodore community to create a Commodore classroom at VCF East 2023!
What a fun time it was! Everyone was very engaged, both class proctors
and
attendees alike! It was a long road to finally get there (adam and I started the planning for this about 5 years ago, then right before it was to happen the pandemic hit) but it was well worth the wait.
Back in 2017 or so when we formulated this plan (it was Adam’s original idea) we agreed that ideally we’d like to see a different platform each year. This way by the time the Apple II was set to return it would be 4-5 years later. Apple, then Commodore, then Atari, then Tandy, (perhaps others) then back to Apple again. The order is irrelevant of course.
Thank you to everyone that participated and the multitude of people who offered their help from beginning to end to make this become a reality.
Tony Bogan
On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 7:18 PM Chris Fala via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
On behalf of myself and Doug Crawford (the only person I spoke to about this so far), CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! We'll show you! Just kidding, all respect to the great work the Apple guys did. Now to just find a few Commodore computers that actually work (I am not serious, but Tony Bogan would have made the joke if I didn't beat him to the punch!). Looking forward to it!
Chris and Doug glad to hear that you are taking up the challenge. Please let me know if you need to borrow any Commodore 64s. I have enough to fill a classroom. Also let me know if I can help in any way with logistics, or getting instructors.
Chris Fala
On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 2:25 PM Tony Bogan via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
On behalf of Tony Bogan, Javier Rivera, Stephen Edwards, Dean Notarnicola and myself, we would like to thank everyone for making the Apple II Classroom such a wonderful success. Almost every class was overflowing all three days!
We have all talked and would like to publicly challenge the Commodore community to create a Commodore classroom at VCF East 2023!
What a fun time it was! Everyone was very engaged, both class proctors
and
attendees alike! It was a long road to finally get there (adam and I started the planning for this about 5 years ago, then right before it was to happen the pandemic hit) but it was well worth the wait.
Back in 2017 or so when we formulated this plan (it was Adam’s original idea) we agreed that ideally we’d like to see a different platform each year. This way by the time the Apple II was set to return it would be 4-5 years later. Apple, then Commodore, then Atari, then Tandy, (perhaps others) then back to Apple again. The order is irrelevant of course.
Thank you to everyone that participated and the multitude of people who offered their help from beginning to end to make this become a reality.
Tony Bogan
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