Microsoft BASIC 1.0 for the Mac 128k
Now at the VCF museum. Courtesy of Corey Little who copied it. I will play with it some more when grad studies are finished. Was there a Pascal for the 128k? -- Jeff Brace
On 1/20/2018 2:05 PM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Now at the VCF museum. Courtesy of Corey Little who copied it. I will play with it some more when grad studies are finished.
Was there a Pascal for the 128k?
WooHoo! The BASIC that almost drove me forever out of programming. I *liked* my line numbers from GWBASIC (hey, I was 10 years old.. give me a break!). As to Pascal, nope. Pascal existed on the Lisa, though. https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=3rd_Party_Developers_and_Macinto... Best wishes, -Adam
Yes, you'd have to move up to at least Mac Plus, and use Lightspeed Pascal. Otherwise, learn 68K assembler :-) On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 2:19 PM Adam Michlin via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On 1/20/2018 2:05 PM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Now at the VCF museum. Courtesy of Corey Little who copied it. I will play with it some more when grad studies are finished.
Was there a Pascal for the 128k?
WooHoo! The BASIC that almost drove me forever out of programming. I *liked* my line numbers from GWBASIC (hey, I was 10 years old.. give me a break!).
As to Pascal, nope. Pascal existed on the Lisa, though.
https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=3rd_Party_Developers_and_Macinto...
Best wishes,
-Adam
68K assembler... yes, this is what we need running on the 128K! https://www.macintoshrepository.org/8804-mcasm-1-0 On 1/20/2018 2:24 PM, Dean Notarnicola wrote:
Yes, you'd have to move up to at least Mac Plus, and use Lightspeed Pascal. Otherwise, learn 68K assembler :-)
On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 2:19 PM Adam Michlin via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org <mailto:vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org>> wrote:
On 1/20/2018 2:05 PM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > Now at the VCF museum. Courtesy of Corey Little who copied it. > I will play with it some more when grad studies are finished. > > Was there a Pascal for the 128k? > WooHoo! The BASIC that almost drove me forever out of programming. I *liked* my line numbers from GWBASIC (hey, I was 10 years old.. give me a break!).
As to Pascal, nope. Pascal existed on the Lisa, though.
https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=3rd_Party_Developers_and_Macinto...
Best wishes,
-Adam
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 20, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Adam Michlin via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
68K assembler... yes, this is what we need running on the 128K!
On a side note from the original topic, the docs for the above linked mcasm 1.0 are available on macintoshgarden.org and macgui.com Also version 1.2 of the assembler is available on both sites. Tony
WooHoo! The BASIC that almost drove me forever out of programming. I *liked* my line numbers from GWBASIC (hey, I was 10 years old.. give me a break!).
Yeah basic could be weird without line numbers.
As to Pascal, nope. Pascal existed on the Lisa, though.
Well maybe we can it for our Lisa II?
Yes, you'd have to move up to at least Mac Plus, and use Lightspeed Pascal. Otherwise, learn 68K assembler :-)
I used Think's Lightspeed Pascal at Drexel from 91-96! I had an SE/30 with a Daystar Excelerator. I did start learning 68K assembly, but had to stop to focus on my other courses at the time.
68K assembler... yes, this is what we need running on the 128K!
Yes! Who will bring it next time they are coming to the museum?
I think the museum also has the big phone book-sized guide book for Macintosh Basic (which Microsoft quickly killed off); I'm almost certain it was one of the books I pulled from that stash in Philly a few years ago (possibly with duplicates). If not, I think I have a copy that I could donate.
I would love to have Macintosh BASIC too! Someone would have to bring that. As for the guide book, when since you know it's there, then you are responsible for hunting for it ;)
There was also a MacForth, which probably ran on 128k given Forth's propensity for compactness.
Shhh, Nick Lordi might here you and have a nerd-gasm. He is notorious for loving Forth! Sure anyone can bring that one too. I would love to know the basics of forth. Never touched it myself.
On 01/20/2018 09:41 PM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
WooHoo! The BASIC that almost drove me forever out of programming. I *liked* my line numbers from GWBASIC (hey, I was 10 years old.. give me a break!).
Yeah basic could be weird without line numbers.
I think we call that FORTRAN. ;-) OS9/OS68K (Microware, not Apple) had Basic with no line numbers and procedures. Didn't use it much as I was using the C compiler instead. Getting back to the Mac, I recall that a friend was building programs with Pascal and it was making calls to the Mac tool box (libraries in ROM) that made the compiled code really tiny. But I can't see that being a usable dev env with a 128K Mac. I do recall that it was used on the later (512K?) Mac. I recall his later env had a dual floppy, then a hard drive and a modified computer to get more ram. But I can't recall if he started with the Mac 128K or not. -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
I think the museum also has the big phone book-sized guide book for Macintosh Basic (which Microsoft quickly killed off); I'm almost certain it was one of the books I pulled from that stash in Philly a few years ago (possibly with duplicates). If not, I think I have a copy that I could donate. It would be really cool to see Macintosh Basic on there, because it's of significant historical interest, and it was WAY more powerful than Microsoft's offering. There was also a MacForth, which probably ran on 128k given Forth's propensity for compactness.
On Jan 20, 2018, at 14:05, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
Now at the VCF museum. Courtesy of Corey Little who copied it. I will play with it some more when grad studies are finished.
Was there a Pascal for the 128k?
-- Jeff Brace
On 1/20/2018 3:44 PM, David Riley via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I think the museum also has the big phone book-sized guide book for Macintosh Basic (which Microsoft quickly killed off); I'm almost certain it was one of the books I pulled from that stash in Philly a few years ago (possibly with duplicates). If not, I think I have a copy that I could donate.
Is that scanned/available anywhere yet? I'm quite curious, as macintosh basic was supposed to be significnatly superior to microsoft basic for macintosh. Does it have issues to run on later macs? I seem to recall something like that, but not sure. I wonder if the source code survived anywhere... -- Jonathan Gevaryahu jgevaryahu@gmail.com jgevaryahu@hotmail.com
I have ran it on an IIfx under System 7.1.1 it ran ok. On an SE under 6.0.8 it also ran well. Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 20, 2018, at 2:05 PM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
Now at the VCF museum. Courtesy of Corey Little who copied it. I will play with it some more when grad studies are finished.
Was there a Pascal for the 128k?
-- Jeff Brace
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