And that is why we have garbage software today! On Jun 7, 2016, at 2:03 PM, Bill Sudbrink via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote: Neil Cherry wrote:

I'm a bit old school, can't quite understand how those in computers can't understand the underlying principles of the computer (hardware and software). But along those same lines we're abstracting so much of this that we don't need to understand it that well.

It's a bit astonishing to me too. We get job candidates with CS degrees from reputable universities who don't know what a register is, can't explain how basic sorts work or why you would even want to know. In my opinion, the most evil phrase to come out of a software engineer's mouth is "I don't want to have to think about...". Yup, it's all abstracted away. You get a "container class" with "iterators" and "find" methods and you're all set. Not fast enough? Throw more hardware at it. This is raising my blood pressure... gotta stop. Bill S.