Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Good inexpensive storage in NJ
Many storage companies require you take their insurance policy for a fee. I'm paying $20 just for insurance. I dont know if infoage wants to get into that. It would bring in revenue, but it would also require a large initial capital cost and management costs. The revenue would have to be worth it and it may not be worth it. I would rather have my computers and stuff there because it would be convenient to do repair weekends and shows. But what is convenient for me may not be for infoage. On Sun, Sep 10, 2023, 9:48 PM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
You know I was thinking the same thing or something very similar. There is so much storage space available in InfoAge that they could rent out space, but that would be a liability and insurance issue.
But if it ever did happen and that they wanted to rent out space I would definitely do it.
Mike R.
Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.
Many storage companies require you take their insurance policy for a fee. I'm paying $20 just for insurance.
If you check, your renters or homeowners insurance might cover the stuff. Also, those storage units sell really expensive policies with low payout numbers. If you look at the fine print, it might say something about not storing more than $2000 or $3000 worth of stuff, and insurance won't cover above that. Also, "all dimensions are estimates." I measured a unit I rented once for a move and it was 16% smaller than advertised. Would love a truth in storage law where they have to advertise true sizes. But it gets complex with height. Storage companies are scum usually. Public Storage is the wrost. The reviews are mostly fake. They buy out facilities and ramp up prices. All the while they get cheaper employees and the facilities go to crap. REIT out to squeeze the end users. You can swap units and reset the prices some. They won't give you the rates you find online, but it's helpful. Put everything on wheels to help make it easier!!! You have to either go up or down sizes usually. You *could* use a friend and hand off the account but that might mess with liability/insurance. Unfortunately housing and biz spaces are crazy expensive right now due to lots of political stuff and years of bad policy, so the idea of going out now and buying a building or house with land will cost a _LOT_ unless you are really in the sticks. A lot of people made a ton of money during covid and it's buying everything. - Ethan
On September 11, 2023 12:13:03 PM Ethan O'Toole via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Unfortunately housing and biz spaces are crazy expensive right now due to lots of political stuff and years of bad policy, so the idea of going out now and buying a building or house with land will cost a _LOT_ unless you are really in the sticks. A lot of people made a ton of money during covid and it's buying everything.
This is very true, but the wildcard there is the Rust Belt. I wouldn't exactly call Pittsburgh, for example, "in the sticks", especially with the gigantic tech community here; there are still tons of fantastic buildings available all over this area, at a fraction of the cost of a house. Supply still exceeds demand, but FUD, lack of understanding, and incompatible or non-thinking spouses are major obstacles for many. These days, houses are the inkjet printer scam of living space. It's unbelievable. But it propagates because that's what we're taught that we're "supposed to do". I'd blow my brains out before I'd live in a house again. No joke. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
Yea But if you don't take "their" insurance they won't accept you. It's messed up that way On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 12:12 PM Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr@757.org> wrote:
Many storage companies require you take their insurance policy for a fee. I'm paying $20 just for insurance.
If you check, your renters or homeowners insurance might cover the stuff. Also, those storage units sell really expensive policies with low payout numbers. If you look at the fine print, it might say something about not storing more than $2000 or $3000 worth of stuff, and insurance won't cover above that.
Also, "all dimensions are estimates." I measured a unit I rented once for a move and it was 16% smaller than advertised.
Would love a truth in storage law where they have to advertise true sizes. But it gets complex with height.
Storage companies are scum usually. Public Storage is the wrost. The reviews are mostly fake. They buy out facilities and ramp up prices. All the while they get cheaper employees and the facilities go to crap. REIT out to squeeze the end users.
You can swap units and reset the prices some. They won't give you the rates you find online, but it's helpful. Put everything on wheels to help make it easier!!! You have to either go up or down sizes usually. You *could* use a friend and hand off the account but that might mess with liability/insurance.
Unfortunately housing and biz spaces are crazy expensive right now due to lots of political stuff and years of bad policy, so the idea of going out now and buying a building or house with land will cost a _LOT_ unless you are really in the sticks. A lot of people made a ton of money during covid and it's buying everything.
- Ethan
That's not insurance, that's a protection racket. ________________________________ From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org> on behalf of Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2023 12:36 PM To: Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr@757.org> Cc: Christian Liendo <cliendo@gmail.com>; Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Good inexpensive storage in NJ Yea But if you don't take "their" insurance they won't accept you. It's messed up that way On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 12:12 PM Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr@757.org> wrote:
Many storage companies require you take their insurance policy for a fee. I'm paying $20 just for insurance.
If you check, your renters or homeowners insurance might cover the stuff. Also, those storage units sell really expensive policies with low payout numbers. If you look at the fine print, it might say something about not storing more than $2000 or $3000 worth of stuff, and insurance won't cover above that.
Also, "all dimensions are estimates." I measured a unit I rented once for a move and it was 16% smaller than advertised.
Would love a truth in storage law where they have to advertise true sizes. But it gets complex with height.
Storage companies are scum usually. Public Storage is the wrost. The reviews are mostly fake. They buy out facilities and ramp up prices. All the while they get cheaper employees and the facilities go to crap. REIT out to squeeze the end users.
You can swap units and reset the prices some. They won't give you the rates you find online, but it's helpful. Put everything on wheels to help make it easier!!! You have to either go up or down sizes usually. You *could* use a friend and hand off the account but that might mess with liability/insurance.
Unfortunately housing and biz spaces are crazy expensive right now due to lots of political stuff and years of bad policy, so the idea of going out now and buying a building or house with land will cost a _LOT_ unless you are really in the sticks. A lot of people made a ton of money during covid and it's buying everything.
- Ethan
________________________________ From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org> on behalf of Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2023 12:36 PM To: Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr@757.org> Cc: Christian Liendo <cliendo@gmail.com>; Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Good inexpensive storage in NJ Yea But if you don't take "their" insurance they won't accept you. It's messed up that way On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 12:12 PM Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr@757.org> wrote:
Many storage companies require you take their insurance policy for a fee. I'm paying $20 just for insurance.
If you check, your renters or homeowners insurance might cover the stuff. Also, those storage units sell really expensive policies with low payout numbers. If you look at the fine print, it might say something about not storing more than $2000 or $3000 worth of stuff, and insurance won't cover above that.
Also, "all dimensions are estimates." I measured a unit I rented once for a move and it was 16% smaller than advertised.
Would love a truth in storage law where they have to advertise true sizes. But it gets complex with height.
Storage companies are scum usually. Public Storage is the wrost. The reviews are mostly fake. They buy out facilities and ramp up prices. All the while they get cheaper employees and the facilities go to crap. REIT out to squeeze the end users.
You can swap units and reset the prices some. They won't give you the rates you find online, but it's helpful. Put everything on wheels to help make it easier!!! You have to either go up or down sizes usually. You *could* use a friend and hand off the account but that might mess with liability/insurance.
Unfortunately housing and biz spaces are crazy expensive right now due to lots of political stuff and years of bad policy, so the idea of going out now and buying a building or house with land will cost a _LOT_ unless you are really in the sticks. A lot of people made a ton of money during covid and it's buying everything.
- Ethan
OK. Now I have to ask, what percentage of fellow list members have at least one storage place, defined by "not in my house or apartment" that you pay for each month to store stuff including at least some vintage computer gear? b On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 12:47 PM Kelly Leavitt via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
That's not insurance, that's a protection racket.
________________________________ From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org> on behalf of Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2023 12:36 PM To: Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr@757.org> Cc: Christian Liendo <cliendo@gmail.com>; Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Good inexpensive storage in NJ
Yea But if you don't take "their" insurance they won't accept you. It's messed up that way
On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 12:12 PM Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr@757.org> wrote:
Many storage companies require you take their insurance policy for a
fee.
I'm paying $20 just for insurance.
If you check, your renters or homeowners insurance might cover the stuff. Also, those storage units sell really expensive policies with low payout numbers. If you look at the fine print, it might say something about not storing more than $2000 or $3000 worth of stuff, and insurance won't cover above that.
Also, "all dimensions are estimates." I measured a unit I rented once for a move and it was 16% smaller than advertised.
Would love a truth in storage law where they have to advertise true sizes. But it gets complex with height.
Storage companies are scum usually. Public Storage is the wrost. The reviews are mostly fake. They buy out facilities and ramp up prices. All the while they get cheaper employees and the facilities go to crap. REIT out to squeeze the end users.
You can swap units and reset the prices some. They won't give you the rates you find online, but it's helpful. Put everything on wheels to help make it easier!!! You have to either go up or down sizes usually. You *could* use a friend and hand off the account but that might mess with liability/insurance.
Unfortunately housing and biz spaces are crazy expensive right now due to lots of political stuff and years of bad policy, so the idea of going out now and buying a building or house with land will cost a _LOT_ unless you are really in the sticks. A lot of people made a ton of money during covid and it's buying everything.
- Ethan
________________________________ From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org> on behalf of Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2023 12:36 PM To: Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr@757.org> Cc: Christian Liendo <cliendo@gmail.com>; Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Good inexpensive storage in NJ
Yea But if you don't take "their" insurance they won't accept you. It's messed up that way
On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 12:12 PM Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr@757.org> wrote:
Many storage companies require you take their insurance policy for a
fee.
I'm paying $20 just for insurance.
If you check, your renters or homeowners insurance might cover the stuff. Also, those storage units sell really expensive policies with low payout numbers. If you look at the fine print, it might say something about not storing more than $2000 or $3000 worth of stuff, and insurance won't cover above that.
Also, "all dimensions are estimates." I measured a unit I rented once for a move and it was 16% smaller than advertised.
Would love a truth in storage law where they have to advertise true sizes. But it gets complex with height.
Storage companies are scum usually. Public Storage is the wrost. The reviews are mostly fake. They buy out facilities and ramp up prices. All the while they get cheaper employees and the facilities go to crap. REIT out to squeeze the end users.
You can swap units and reset the prices some. They won't give you the rates you find online, but it's helpful. Put everything on wheels to help make it easier!!! You have to either go up or down sizes usually. You *could* use a friend and hand off the account but that might mess with liability/insurance.
Unfortunately housing and biz spaces are crazy expensive right now due to lots of political stuff and years of bad policy, so the idea of going out now and buying a building or house with land will cost a _LOT_ unless you are really in the sticks. A lot of people made a ton of money during covid and it's buying everything.
- Ethan
I am looking for one but don’t currently have one Mike R. Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.
On Sep 11, 2023, at 1:12 PM, Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
OK. Now I have to ask, what percentage of fellow list members have at least one storage place, defined by "not in my house or apartment" that you pay for each month to store stuff including at least some vintage computer gear? b
On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 12:47 PM Kelly Leavitt via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
That's not insurance, that's a protection racket.
________________________________ From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org> on behalf of Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2023 12:36 PM To: Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr@757.org> Cc: Christian Liendo <cliendo@gmail.com>; Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Good inexpensive storage in NJ
Yea But if you don't take "their" insurance they won't accept you. It's messed up that way
On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 12:12 PM Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr@757.org> wrote:
Many storage companies require you take their insurance policy for a fee. I'm paying $20 just for insurance.
If you check, your renters or homeowners insurance might cover the stuff. Also, those storage units sell really expensive policies with low payout numbers. If you look at the fine print, it might say something about not storing more than $2000 or $3000 worth of stuff, and insurance won't cover above that.
Also, "all dimensions are estimates." I measured a unit I rented once for a move and it was 16% smaller than advertised.
Would love a truth in storage law where they have to advertise true sizes. But it gets complex with height.
Storage companies are scum usually. Public Storage is the wrost. The reviews are mostly fake. They buy out facilities and ramp up prices. All the while they get cheaper employees and the facilities go to crap. REIT out to squeeze the end users.
You can swap units and reset the prices some. They won't give you the rates you find online, but it's helpful. Put everything on wheels to help make it easier!!! You have to either go up or down sizes usually. You *could* use a friend and hand off the account but that might mess with liability/insurance.
Unfortunately housing and biz spaces are crazy expensive right now due to lots of political stuff and years of bad policy, so the idea of going out now and buying a building or house with land will cost a _LOT_ unless you are really in the sticks. A lot of people made a ton of money during covid and it's buying everything.
- Ethan
________________________________ From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org> on behalf of Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2023 12:36 PM To: Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr@757.org> Cc: Christian Liendo <cliendo@gmail.com>; Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Good inexpensive storage in NJ
Yea But if you don't take "their" insurance they won't accept you. It's messed up that way
On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 12:12 PM Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr@757.org> wrote:
Many storage companies require you take their insurance policy for a fee. I'm paying $20 just for insurance.
If you check, your renters or homeowners insurance might cover the stuff. Also, those storage units sell really expensive policies with low payout numbers. If you look at the fine print, it might say something about not storing more than $2000 or $3000 worth of stuff, and insurance won't cover above that.
Also, "all dimensions are estimates." I measured a unit I rented once for a move and it was 16% smaller than advertised.
Would love a truth in storage law where they have to advertise true sizes. But it gets complex with height.
Storage companies are scum usually. Public Storage is the wrost. The reviews are mostly fake. They buy out facilities and ramp up prices. All the while they get cheaper employees and the facilities go to crap. REIT out to squeeze the end users.
You can swap units and reset the prices some. They won't give you the rates you find online, but it's helpful. Put everything on wheels to help make it easier!!! You have to either go up or down sizes usually. You *could* use a friend and hand off the account but that might mess with liability/insurance.
Unfortunately housing and biz spaces are crazy expensive right now due to lots of political stuff and years of bad policy, so the idea of going out now and buying a building or house with land will cost a _LOT_ unless you are really in the sticks. A lot of people made a ton of money during covid and it's buying everything.
- Ethan
I am thinking as a club if we had "storage lockers" or something like that, which came from a membership of some kind people could store up to 10x10 or 5x5 or whatever items useful for workshops, parts, etc. Might be really cool service. Nothing fancy. I realize there is insurance but this would be a club service not the same thing as a storage place. You'd have to be in the club and a regular-ish workshop participant or member in good standing. Bill On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 1:15 PM Sentrytv <sentrytv@yahoo.com> wrote:
I am looking for one but don’t currently have one Mike R. Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.
On Sep 11, 2023, at 1:12 PM, Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
OK. Now I have to ask, what percentage of fellow list members have at least one storage place, defined by "not in my house or apartment" that you pay for each month to store stuff including at least some vintage computer gear? b
On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 12:47 PM Kelly Leavitt via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
That's not insurance, that's a protection racket.
________________________________ From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org> on behalf of Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2023 12:36 PM To: Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr@757.org> Cc: Christian Liendo <cliendo@gmail.com>; Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Good inexpensive storage in NJ
Yea But if you don't take "their" insurance they won't accept you. It's messed up that way
On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 12:12 PM Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr@757.org> wrote:
Many storage companies require you take their insurance policy for a fee. I'm paying $20 just for insurance.
If you check, your renters or homeowners insurance might cover the stuff. Also, those storage units sell really expensive policies with low payout numbers. If you look at the fine print, it might say something about not storing more than $2000 or $3000 worth of stuff, and insurance won't cover above that.
Also, "all dimensions are estimates." I measured a unit I rented once for a move and it was 16% smaller than advertised.
Would love a truth in storage law where they have to advertise true sizes. But it gets complex with height.
Storage companies are scum usually. Public Storage is the wrost. The reviews are mostly fake. They buy out facilities and ramp up prices. All the while they get cheaper employees and the facilities go to crap. REIT out to squeeze the end users.
You can swap units and reset the prices some. They won't give you the rates you find online, but it's helpful. Put everything on wheels to help make it easier!!! You have to either go up or down sizes usually. You *could* use a friend and hand off the account but that might mess with liability/insurance.
Unfortunately housing and biz spaces are crazy expensive right now due to lots of political stuff and years of bad policy, so the idea of going out now and buying a building or house with land will cost a _LOT_ unless you are really in the sticks. A lot of people made a ton of money during covid and it's buying everything.
- Ethan
________________________________ From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org> on behalf of Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2023 12:36 PM To: Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr@757.org> Cc: Christian Liendo <cliendo@gmail.com>; Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Good inexpensive storage in NJ
Yea But if you don't take "their" insurance they won't accept you. It's messed up that way
On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 12:12 PM Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr@757.org> wrote:
Many storage companies require you take their insurance policy for a fee. I'm paying $20 just for insurance.
If you check, your renters or homeowners insurance might cover the stuff. Also, those storage units sell really expensive policies with low payout numbers. If you look at the fine print, it might say something about not storing more than $2000 or $3000 worth of stuff, and insurance won't cover above that.
Also, "all dimensions are estimates." I measured a unit I rented once for a move and it was 16% smaller than advertised.
Would love a truth in storage law where they have to advertise true sizes. But it gets complex with height.
Storage companies are scum usually. Public Storage is the wrost. The reviews are mostly fake. They buy out facilities and ramp up prices. All the while they get cheaper employees and the facilities go to crap. REIT out to squeeze the end users.
You can swap units and reset the prices some. They won't give you the rates you find online, but it's helpful. Put everything on wheels to help make it easier!!! You have to either go up or down sizes usually. You *could* use a friend and hand off the account but that might mess with liability/insurance.
Unfortunately housing and biz spaces are crazy expensive right now due to lots of political stuff and years of bad policy, so the idea of going out now and buying a building or house with land will cost a _LOT_ unless you are really in the sticks. A lot of people made a ton of money during covid and it's buying everything.
- Ethan
I have one, but I live in an apartment. If I had a house I wouldn't need one.
Well that statement depends on many many things and I think that most of us with homes would say the same thing.! Mike R. Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.
On Sep 11, 2023, at 1:30 PM, Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I have one, but I live in an apartment. If I had a house I wouldn't need one.
You have a lot more stuff than I do. My wife and I live in a 525 sq/ft apartment. I used to live in a 300 sq/ft apartment. I know people with pools that have more square footage. On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 1:45 PM Sentrytv <sentrytv@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well that statement depends on many many things and I think that most of us with homes would say the same thing.!
Mike R.
Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.
George Carlin said: “Your house is just a place for your S-tuff” If you have a lot of stuff get a bigger house! Mike R. Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.
On Sep 11, 2023, at 1:54 PM, Christian Liendo <cliendo@gmail.com> wrote:
You have a lot more stuff than I do.
My wife and I live in a 525 sq/ft apartment.
I used to live in a 300 sq/ft apartment.
I know people with pools that have more square footage.
On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 1:45 PM Sentrytv <sentrytv@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well that statement depends on many many things and I think that most of us with homes would say the same thing.!
Mike R.
Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.
I live in my fiancée house, basically moved in. I rent a 10'x20' storage unit about two miles away for convenience. I own a house about 20 miles away that my son rents from me and that's still filled with equipment, projects, collections, gaming machines. On Mon, Sep 11, 2023, 1:12 PM Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
OK. Now I have to ask, what percentage of fellow list members have at least one storage place, defined by "not in my house or apartment" that you pay for each month to store stuff including at least some vintage computer gear? b
On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 12:47 PM Kelly Leavitt via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
That's not insurance, that's a protection racket.
________________________________ From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org> on behalf of Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2023 12:36 PM To: Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr@757.org> Cc: Christian Liendo <cliendo@gmail.com>; Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Good inexpensive storage in NJ
Yea But if you don't take "their" insurance they won't accept you. It's messed up that way
On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 12:12 PM Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr@757.org> wrote:
Many storage companies require you take their insurance policy for a
fee.
I'm paying $20 just for insurance.
If you check, your renters or homeowners insurance might cover the stuff. Also, those storage units sell really expensive policies with low payout numbers. If you look at the fine print, it might say something about not storing more than $2000 or $3000 worth of stuff, and insurance won't cover above that.
Also, "all dimensions are estimates." I measured a unit I rented once for a move and it was 16% smaller than advertised.
Would love a truth in storage law where they have to advertise true sizes. But it gets complex with height.
Storage companies are scum usually. Public Storage is the wrost. The reviews are mostly fake. They buy out facilities and ramp up prices. All the while they get cheaper employees and the facilities go to crap. REIT out to squeeze the end users.
You can swap units and reset the prices some. They won't give you the rates you find online, but it's helpful. Put everything on wheels to help make it easier!!! You have to either go up or down sizes usually. You *could* use a friend and hand off the account but that might mess with liability/insurance.
Unfortunately housing and biz spaces are crazy expensive right now due to lots of political stuff and years of bad policy, so the idea of going out now and buying a building or house with land will cost a _LOT_ unless you are really in the sticks. A lot of people made a ton of money during covid and it's buying everything.
- Ethan
________________________________ From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org> on behalf of Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2023 12:36 PM To: Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr@757.org> Cc: Christian Liendo <cliendo@gmail.com>; Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Good inexpensive storage in NJ
Yea But if you don't take "their" insurance they won't accept you. It's messed up that way
On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 12:12 PM Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr@757.org> wrote:
Many storage companies require you take their insurance policy for a
fee.
I'm paying $20 just for insurance.
If you check, your renters or homeowners insurance might cover the stuff. Also, those storage units sell really expensive policies with low payout numbers. If you look at the fine print, it might say something about not storing more than $2000 or $3000 worth of stuff, and insurance won't cover above that.
Also, "all dimensions are estimates." I measured a unit I rented once for a move and it was 16% smaller than advertised.
Would love a truth in storage law where they have to advertise true sizes. But it gets complex with height.
Storage companies are scum usually. Public Storage is the wrost. The reviews are mostly fake. They buy out facilities and ramp up prices. All the while they get cheaper employees and the facilities go to crap. REIT out to squeeze the end users.
You can swap units and reset the prices some. They won't give you the rates you find online, but it's helpful. Put everything on wheels to help make it easier!!! You have to either go up or down sizes usually. You *could* use a friend and hand off the account but that might mess with liability/insurance.
Unfortunately housing and biz spaces are crazy expensive right now due to lots of political stuff and years of bad policy, so the idea of going out now and buying a building or house with land will cost a _LOT_ unless you are really in the sticks. A lot of people made a ton of money during covid and it's buying everything.
- Ethan
I still have a storage unit in Norfolk VA. It's maybe 10x10 or 10x15 max. It's just some left over stuff, but the one computer in it weighs around 3000 pounds so I need to use a truck with a liftgate to move it. In addition to that, Star Wars vector sit down arcade game, some relay racks, some white boards, etc. Truck would cost around $800 I think to move from Norfolk to Northern VA, rental and fuel? So I haven't done it yet. Storage will be same price or more where I live. I mean if VCF wanted to put the computer on display... would be cool to have it running on display (208-240v @ 90 amp service, but really draws maybe 12 amps or so as I recall.) Software kernel panics on boot. Not sure it's exciting to watch.
OK. Now I have to ask, what percentage of fellow list members have at least one storage place, defined by "not in my house or apartment" that you pay for each month to store stuff including at least some vintage computer gear? b
Enterprise truck was the best I found for liftgate trucks. Not sure if the one I rented was rated for 3000 pounds or is that in multiple separate units? 16' lift gate $89/day $.29 per mile with 300 free miles. On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 04:17:15PM -0400, Ethan O'Toole via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I still have a storage unit in Norfolk VA. It's maybe 10x10 or 10x15 max.
It's just some left over stuff, but the one computer in it weighs around 3000 pounds so I need to use a truck with a liftgate to move it. In addition to that, Star Wars vector sit down arcade game, some relay racks, some white boards, etc. Truck would cost around $800 I think to move from Norfolk to Northern VA, rental and fuel? So I haven't done it yet. Storage will be same price or more where I live.
I mean if VCF wanted to put the computer on display... would be cool to have it running on display (208-240v @ 90 amp service, but really draws maybe 12 amps or so as I recall.) Software kernel panics on boot. Not sure it's exciting to watch.
OK. Now I have to ask, what percentage of fellow list members have at least one storage place, defined by "not in my house or apartment" that you pay for each month to store stuff including at least some vintage computer gear? b
I've had a storage unit in the boonies far enough away from the Northern VA suburbs for the past decade to keep costs down. It was mainly to house the stuff my dad gave me when he downsized and moved up north, so it was a mix of all sorts of things, plus my then-meager vintage computing collection. I'm paying about 2 grand a year for a climate controlled 10x20 unit, which is close enough to visit in a ~75 minute drive each way. It's some local company, rather than a big name franchise. Since moving from a tiny condo to a larger townhouse in 2020, a significant portion of stuff came out of storage. However, I'm overdue to find a crew of able-bodied folks to help me pull everything out, sort through it, repack the stuff that stays, and pitch some of the crap. Maybe I can reduce to a smaller unit, who knows. There's a handful of stuff I've been slowly offloading at VCFs as my interests have focused on specific things. -Alexander 'Z' Pierson On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 06:37:48 PM EDT, David Gesswein via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote: Enterprise truck was the best I found for liftgate trucks. Not sure if the one I rented was rated for 3000 pounds or is that in multiple separate units? 16' lift gate $89/day $.29 per mile with 300 free miles. On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 04:17:15PM -0400, Ethan O'Toole via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I still have a storage unit in Norfolk VA. It's maybe 10x10 or 10x15 max.
It's just some left over stuff, but the one computer in it weighs around 3000 pounds so I need to use a truck with a liftgate to move it. In addition to that, Star Wars vector sit down arcade game, some relay racks, some white boards, etc. Truck would cost around $800 I think to move from Norfolk to Northern VA, rental and fuel? So I haven't done it yet. Storage will be same price or more where I live.
I mean if VCF wanted to put the computer on display... would be cool to have it running on display (208-240v @ 90 amp service, but really draws maybe 12 amps or so as I recall.) Software kernel panics on boot. Not sure it's exciting to watch.
OK. Now I have to ask, what percentage of fellow list members have at least one storage place, defined by "not in my house or apartment" that you pay for each month to store stuff including at least some vintage computer gear? b
I have a 10x10 unit for vintage computer stuff but the more expensive items are in my garage. I leaned that way due the the very limited liability of the facility insurance policy vs my home owners policy. This is in Tucson, AZ. Jeff On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 1:12 PM Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
OK. Now I have to ask, what percentage of fellow list members have at least one storage place, defined by "not in my house or apartment" that you pay for each month to store stuff including at least some vintage computer gear? b
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