There is cheap mylar punch tape on ebay. I bought a few rolls. https://www.ebay.com/itm/392994905002?hash=item5b80525baa:g:tZoAAOSwJUdeZ5ki... -- DuaneCraps sdɐɹɔ ǝuɐnp
On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 4:52 PM Duane Craps via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
There is cheap mylar punch tape on ebay.
I bought a few rolls.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/392994905002?hash=item5b80525baa:g:tZoAAOSwJUdeZ5ki...
I have a roll of that which I think glued itself together. I have smaller rolls I haven't run yet because of wear on the punch. Maybe for 2-3 specific heavy-use programs, like a binloader. Thanks for the tip. -ethan
Ethan, The information for the DSI NC2400 punch life is: Paper 2,000,000 feet Mylar 50,000 feet So it's 4/1 ratio. So, if you're not punching 9.47 miles of mylar there should not be a problem. I always heard that mylar was harder on the punch but, did not know how long it would take. Other punches could be different. I attached a screenshot of my source. Duane On 3/27/2023 5:09 PM, Ethan Dicks via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 4:52 PM Duane Craps via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
There is cheap mylar punch tape on ebay.
I bought a few rolls.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/392994905002?hash=item5b80525baa:g:tZoAAOSwJUdeZ5ki... I have a roll of that which I think glued itself together. I have smaller rolls I haven't run yet because of wear on the punch. Maybe for 2-3 specific heavy-use programs, like a binloader.
Thanks for the tip.
-ethan
-- DuaneCraps sdɐɹɔ ǝuɐnp
4-1? Or 40-1? -----Original Message----- From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org> On Behalf Of Duane Craps via vcf-midatlantic Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 6:59 PM To: Ethan Dicks via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Cc: Duane Craps <DBC1964@cox.net> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Mylar Tape EXTERNAL EMAIL Ethan, The information for the DSI NC2400 punch life is: Paper 2,000,000 feet Mylar 50,000 feet So it's 4/1 ratio. So, if you're not punching 9.47 miles of mylar there should not be a problem. I always heard that mylar was harder on the punch but, did not know how long it would take. Other punches could be different. I attached a screenshot of my source. Duane On 3/27/2023 5:09 PM, Ethan Dicks via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 4:52 PM Duane Craps via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
There is cheap mylar punch tape on ebay.
I bought a few rolls.
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ebay.com/itm/392994905002?has h=item5b80525baa:g:tZoAAOSwJUdeZ5ki&amdata=enc*3AAQAHAAAAwFR15icY4IDj *2BA4FOlXLMgwfuFIMe0H469mNeza4GfAeNrqJoSs*2FrhwBRZCixi*2F32LY1xb6MIRp VSI5cL*2BeuVssl*2FRzQaEDPgvKxAeBI87jFxh9y4Y2QDSbyA3ISCNOZp5Ldeo6qKVEq JINjuprEJL6mVqCOPJ*2B8zBTVMjRqg7vtoAsmf6yNtJNxlwEXxbFz6s8uU*2FQgzGN2r vkeSzGXkLrD8DRtPblbW6JVsoO4DVBuaQOyTGH94e7F5Fd1ZrFY*2Bw*3D*3D*7Ctkp*3 ABk9SR-ql88PkYQ__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJQ!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg! Khq2-BXxSYQtfj0YcUuMJJv1eXM5G_zU5VBWUVwX4lwdmS3qqaXK7VVqOZ616ssiSxb3M 6WdjYuCQmRjYvqYzmQuwVhl9k38L7OKrP0$ I have a roll of that which I think glued itself together. I have smaller rolls I haven't run yet because of wear on the punch. Maybe for 2-3 specific heavy-use programs, like a binloader.
Thanks for the tip.
-ethan
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Justin, Thanks, I needed that You're right. I was wrong on my mental math. Still good for more than I'll ever punch. On 3/27/2023 7:20 PM, Hopkins, Justin wrote:
4-1? Or 40-1?
-----Original Message----- From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org> On Behalf Of Duane Craps via vcf-midatlantic Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 6:59 PM To: Ethan Dicks via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Cc: Duane Craps <DBC1964@cox.net> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Mylar Tape
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Ethan,
The information for the DSI NC2400 punch life is:
Paper 2,000,000 feet
Mylar 50,000 feet
So it's 4/1 ratio.
So, if you're not punching 9.47 miles of mylar there should not be a problem.
I always heard that mylar was harder on the punch but, did not know how long it would take.
Other punches could be different.
I attached a screenshot of my source.
Duane
On 3/27/2023 5:09 PM, Ethan Dicks via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 4:52 PM Duane Craps via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
There is cheap mylar punch tape on ebay.
I bought a few rolls.
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ebay.com/itm/392994905002?has h=item5b80525baa:g:tZoAAOSwJUdeZ5ki&amdata=enc*3AAQAHAAAAwFR15icY4IDj *2BA4FOlXLMgwfuFIMe0H469mNeza4GfAeNrqJoSs*2FrhwBRZCixi*2F32LY1xb6MIRp VSI5cL*2BeuVssl*2FRzQaEDPgvKxAeBI87jFxh9y4Y2QDSbyA3ISCNOZp5Ldeo6qKVEq JINjuprEJL6mVqCOPJ*2B8zBTVMjRqg7vtoAsmf6yNtJNxlwEXxbFz6s8uU*2FQgzGN2r vkeSzGXkLrD8DRtPblbW6JVsoO4DVBuaQOyTGH94e7F5Fd1ZrFY*2Bw*3D*3D*7Ctkp*3 ABk9SR-ql88PkYQ__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJQ!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg! Khq2-BXxSYQtfj0YcUuMJJv1eXM5G_zU5VBWUVwX4lwdmS3qqaXK7VVqOZ616ssiSxb3M 6WdjYuCQmRjYvqYzmQuwVhl9k38L7OKrP0$ I have a roll of that which I think glued itself together. I have smaller rolls I haven't run yet because of wear on the punch. Maybe for 2-3 specific heavy-use programs, like a binloader.
Thanks for the tip.
-ethan -- DuaneCraps sdɐɹɔ ǝuɐnp
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On Mon, Mar 27, 2023, 18:48 Duane Craps via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Justin,
Thanks, I needed that
You're right. I was wrong on my mental math.
Still good for more than I'll ever punch.
"with a die block rated at 2,000,000 feet (paper tape) or 500,000 feet (Mylar tape)." So 4:1 it is.
On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 8:06 PM Kyle Owen via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
"with a die block rated at 2,000,000 feet (paper tape) or 500,000 feet (Mylar tape)."
So 4:1 it is.
I found the DSI NC2400 punch manual on bitsavers. 4:1 isn't as bad as had been suggested to me. I have a few hundred feet of mylar tape. Definitely worth punching heavy-use programs. Thx, -ethan
Hello! It's funny that we're talking about mylar punch tape on that auction site today. Because I was thinking of the place where I first saw punch tape in paper, it was at the first phototypesetting job that my father had taken at a shop in Manhattan. They did so for a system running on a DG Nova 2, and then it got created by the system itself to be run on a Merganthaler VIP machine. The TTY was a noisy as anything model 33. (By the time he left there the job had upgraded itself to a Nova 3.) The second place was at a shop also in Manhattan and next door to where our hot metal typesetting shop was, and there he basically created an entirely new shop. The original setup ran on a paper of PDP-8 systems with specialty terminals creating the input also on puch tape, and the systems used I8008 processors. The output also was done the same way and also for VIP machines. When that shop closed they were eventually using laser based systems. But this has nothing to do with the dino footprints in the mud next door to the bunkhouse and a very big tent. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8@gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 4:53 PM Duane Craps via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
There is cheap mylar punch tape on ebay.
I bought a few rolls.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/392994905002?hash=item5b80525baa:g:tZoAAOSwJUdeZ5ki...
-- DuaneCraps sdɐɹɔ ǝuɐnp
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