A 1986 bulletin board system has brought the old Web back to life in 2017
Well, this is interesting ... https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/04/a-1986-bulletin-board... -- -- Derrik Derrik Walker v2.0, RHCE dwalker@doomd.net "Those UNIX guys, they think weird!" -- John C. Dvorak
Well, this is interesting ...
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/04/a-1986-bulletin-board...
Not impressed! He's using all kinds of modern hardware and telephony tricks. The VCFed BBS, under development, will be a REAL dial-in service. There will be telnet access too, but no microcontrollers or modern translation adapters or anything of the sort. Just a bare-metal MS-DOS server, MajorBBS software, an analog PBX with GSM antenna, and Internet access.
On 04/09/2017 12:20 AM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Well, this is interesting ...
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/04/a-1986-bulletin-board...
Not impressed! He's using all kinds of modern hardware and telephony tricks. The VCFed BBS, under development, will be a REAL dial-in service. There will be telnet access too, but no microcontrollers or modern translation adapters or anything of the sort. Just a bare-metal MS-DOS server, MajorBBS software, an analog PBX with GSM antenna, and Internet access.
I think it's cool that some of the modern technology keeps the retro stuff accessible in modern times. ( this coming from the person who runs Mach Ten in a Mac Plus emulator on a modern Linux box - and it's WAY faster than it ever was on any hardware Mac I ran it on! ) -- -- Derrik Derrik Walker v2.0, RHCE dwalker@doomd.net "Those UNIX guys, they think weird!" -- John C. Dvorak
On 4/8/2017 11:12 PM, Derrik Walker v2.0 via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Well, this is interesting ...
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/04/a-1986-bulletin-board...
Nice to know something I wrote in 2004 or so (tcpser) is still being used. Jim -- RETRO Innovations, Contemporary Gear for Classic Systems www.go4retro.com store.go4retro.com
Well, this is interesting ...
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/04/a-1986-bulletin-board...
Nice to know something I wrote in 2004 or so (tcpser) is still being used.
Jim
Hi Jim. My response was nothing against your product! :) Just meant what the person did with it isn't THAT impressive vs. a real BBS.
On 4/9/2017 1:00 AM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Well, this is interesting ...
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/04/a-1986-bulletin-board...
Nice to know something I wrote in 2004 or so (tcpser) is still being used.
Jim
Hi Jim.
My response was nothing against your product! :) Just meant what the person did with it isn't THAT impressive vs. a real BBS.
Understood I would ask what we all consider a "real" bbs, then, as the user is running the system on a real Apple II, as far as I can tell. The only thing differing is the choice of modem (virtual versus real POTS) Jim -- RETRO Innovations, Contemporary Gear for Classic Systems www.go4retro.com store.go4retro.com
I would ask what we all consider a "real" bbs, then, as the user is running the system on a real Apple II, as far as I can tell. The only thing differing is the choice of modem (virtual versus real POTS)
It's just that I have heard of many systems called BBS(s) which don't go all the way. Maybe I should not have been so hard on the guy ... it's like when you read about someone doing Twitter from an 8-bit machine but all they are really doing is passing serial via a PC. Ya know?
Duh.. we all know a 'real' bbs is a PC based board, preferably Wildcat, USR 14.4 multi-line, and with tons of warez! All the 8-bit weenies with their slow 2400s can suck it! Real boards don't allow C=, Atari, or Trash-80 losers! If you can't play TradeWars2002, it's not worth dialing in! -Alan On 2017-04-09 02:14, RETRO Innovations via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I would ask what we all consider a "real" bbs, then, ...
Jim
On 04/09/2017 03:37 AM, Alan Hightower via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Duh.. we all know a 'real' bbs is a PC based board, preferably Wildcat, USR 14.4 multi-line, and with tons of warez! All the 8-bit weenies with their slow 2400s can suck it! Real boards don't allow C=, Atari, or Trash-80 losers!
If you can't play TradeWars2002, it's not worth dialing in!
My 6809 running Microware's OS9 can beat up your single user PC. I can handle several users all dialed in at the same time (even at 9600). :-) And mine is still vintage! ;-) -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
My first modem was a 300 baud acoustic coupler I built from a kit. Memory is hazy, but I think it was a kit from a company called 'micromint' I think they had a store somewhere in long island where I went to pick it up, but I was a kid with my father driving so who can remember such things. I dialed into every bbs I could get my hands on. My parent's phone bill went through the roof! Especially from those long distance calls! ouch! Through older friends and family, I also had access to some computer (harris? Vulcan operating system?) from stonybrook (or one of the suny school) and a machine at the university of texas (don't recall the details). I even was able to gain access to the long island online library system. I went to my local library and saw a terminal there. Taped onto the terminal was a phone number. I don't even think they used passwords back then. I think I pressed "enter" when the login prompt appeared and I was in. I could tell you for any given book, what library had it and what shelf it was on! That knowledge and a $1.00 could get you a ride on the subway system (back then) and not much more. Eugene W2HX -----Original Message----- From: vcf-midatlantic [mailto:vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org] On Behalf Of Alan Hightower via vcf-midatlantic Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2017 3:37 AM To: vcf-midatlantic Cc: Alan Hightower Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] A 1986 bulletin board system has brought the old Web back to life in 2017 Duh.. we all know a 'real' bbs is a PC based board, preferably Wildcat, USR 14.4 multi-line, and with tons of warez! All the 8-bit weenies with their slow 2400s can suck it! Real boards don't allow C=, Atari, or Trash-80 losers! If you can't play TradeWars2002, it's not worth dialing in! -Alan On 2017-04-09 02:14, RETRO Innovations via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I would ask what we all consider a "real" bbs, then, ...
Jim
Level 29 BBS has TW2002 :) 916 965 1701 telnet:bbs.fozztexx.com On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 3:37 AM, Alan Hightower via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
Duh.. we all know a 'real' bbs is a PC based board, preferably Wildcat, USR 14.4 multi-line, and with tons of warez! All the 8-bit weenies with their slow 2400s can suck it! Real boards don't allow C=, Atari, or Trash-80 losers!
If you can't play TradeWars2002, it's not worth dialing in!
-Alan
On 2017-04-09 02:14, RETRO Innovations via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I would ask what we all consider a "real" bbs, then, ...
Jim
On 04/09/2017 06:26 PM, Mark Whittington via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Level 29 BBS has TW2002 :)
916 965 1701
telnet:bbs.fozztexx.com
Your colors look terrible on a white background (my default). TW2002? BBS Software? -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
On 04/09/2017 07:15 PM, Neil Cherry via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
On 04/09/2017 06:26 PM, Mark Whittington via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Level 29 BBS has TW2002 :)
916 965 1701
telnet:bbs.fozztexx.com
Your colors look terrible on a white background (my default).
TW2002? BBS Software?
Oh Trade Ware 2002 -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 7:15 PM, Neil Cherry <ncherry@linuxha.com> wrote:
Your colors look terrible on a white background (my default).
TW2002? BBS Software?
Not my BBS, just sharing the link and dial-up number. TW2002 is Tradewars 2002 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_Wars>, a space trading game that was a popular 'door' program during the halcyon days of the dial-up BBS.
Duh.. we all know a 'real' bbs is a PC based board, preferably Wildcat, USR 14.4 multi-line, and with tons of warez! All the 8-bit weenies with their slow 2400s can suck it! Real boards don't allow C=, Atari, or Trash-80 losers! If you can't play TradeWars2002, it's not worth dialing in! -Alan
Eww Wildcat! How do you know it's a shareware board? Wildcat :-) Telegard... those were the days (Except the single line limitation.) Actually, AFTER my years doing the BBS thing I have to say eSoft TBBS was the most impressive thing for me looking back. 64 14.4k lines on a single 486SX !! Since it handled the task switching internally, and I think they used buffered Digiboards. Pretty cool. - Ethan
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