My understanding is that Wikipedia "management/rules" will accept information if backed by citations. This has resulted in the following stupidity: An expert in a field makes an edit to a Wikipedia article. It is rejected for lack of an accompanying citation. The same expert cites an article published in a magazine, that HE WROTE, about the topic. So -- he's citing *himself*. Expert's Wikipedia edit is now accepted because it has an accompanying citation. All of which suggests that if Evan makes an edit, and cites HIS OWN BOOK, the edit will be accepted. Bill Dudley This email is free of malware because I run Linux. On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:20 AM, Neil Cherry via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Neil Cherry <ncherry@linuxha.com> To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Cc: Bcc: Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 11:20:33 -0400 Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] the first pDa On 08/29/2018 12:50 AM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_digital_assistant
who is going to correct this?
Obviously I'm the guy, but I am very un-motivated to argue with Wikipedia editors.
Amen to that!
-- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
The same expert cites an article published in a magazine, that HE WROTE, about the topic. So -- he's citing *himself*.
Expert's Wikipedia edit is now accepted because it has an accompanying citation.
All of which suggests that if Evan makes an edit, and cites HIS OWN BOOK, the edit will be accepted.
Even better, Evan can site his sources, not his book, unless he presented new info that is not sourced directly from sources.
A source is a source, of course of course, and on one can site a self-source of course, that is of course unless the source is the famous Mr. Evan... On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:52 PM Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
The same expert cites an article published in a magazine, that HE WROTE, about the topic. So -- he's citing *himself*.
Expert's Wikipedia edit is now accepted because it has an accompanying citation.
All of which suggests that if Evan makes an edit, and cites HIS OWN BOOK, the edit will be accepted.
Even better, Evan can site his sources, not his book, unless he presented new info that is not sourced directly from sources.
Oh my! ;-) On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 2:08 PM Dean Notarnicola via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
A source is a source, of course of course, and on one can site a self-source of course, that is of course unless the source is the famous Mr. Evan...
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:52 PM Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
The same expert cites an article published in a magazine, that HE
WROTE,
about the topic. So -- he's citing *himself*.
Expert's Wikipedia edit is now accepted because it has an accompanying citation.
All of which suggests that if Evan makes an edit, and cites HIS OWN BOOK, the edit will be accepted.
Even better, Evan can site his sources, not his book, unless he presented new info that is not sourced directly from sources.
On Aug 29, 2018, at 2:08 PM, Dean Notarnicola via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
A source is a source, of course of course, and on one can site a self-source of course, that is of course unless the source is the famous Mr. Evan...
Wiiiiiillllllburrrrrrrrrr.
Yeah, and a little scary. I find myself singing. On Aug 29, 2018, at 8:57 PM, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote: Brilliant.
On 8/29/2018 2:08 PM, Dean Notarnicola via vcf-midatlantic wrote: A source is a source, of course of course, and on one can site a self-source of course, that is of course unless the source is the famous Mr. Evan...
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:52 PM Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
The same expert cites an article published in a magazine, that HE WROTE, about the topic. So -- he's citing *himself*.
Expert's Wikipedia edit is now accepted because it has an accompanying citation.
All of which suggests that if Evan makes an edit, and cites HIS OWN BOOK, the edit will be accepted.
Even better, Evan can site his sources, not his book, unless he presented new info that is not sourced directly from sources.
Welcome to the information age. Plenty of information, questionable truth. On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:47 PM William Dudley via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
My understanding is that Wikipedia "management/rules" will accept information if backed by citations.
This has resulted in the following stupidity:
An expert in a field makes an edit to a Wikipedia article.
It is rejected for lack of an accompanying citation.
The same expert cites an article published in a magazine, that HE WROTE, about the topic. So -- he's citing *himself*.
Expert's Wikipedia edit is now accepted because it has an accompanying citation.
All of which suggests that if Evan makes an edit, and cites HIS OWN BOOK, the edit will be accepted.
Bill Dudley
This email is free of malware because I run Linux.
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:20 AM, Neil Cherry via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Neil Cherry <ncherry@linuxha.com> To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Cc: Bcc: Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 11:20:33 -0400 Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] the first pDa On 08/29/2018 12:50 AM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_digital_assistant
who is going to correct this?
Obviously I'm the guy, but I am very un-motivated to argue with
Wikipedia
editors.
Amen to that!
-- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
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