I wanted to point someone to a site which has pictures from our Infoage museum, but have come to the conclusion that there is no official site like that. Is anyone working on a museum page? I suspect there are lots of pictures floating around in personal collections, but it would be nice to have an official (virtual) museum page. Mike Loewen mloewen@cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/
I wanted to point someone to a site which has pictures from our Infoage museum, but have come to the conclusion that there is no official site like that. Is anyone working on a museum page? I suspect there are lots of pictures floating around in personal collections, but it would be nice to have an official (virtual) museum page.
The official page is http://vcfed.org/wp/vcf-museum/. I agree that we need more than this. Curious minds want to know, what's the other page you mentioned?
I think what he's saying is that there is no virtual museum page. And IIRC, its been discussed, and the thought is that a comprehensive virtual museum may discourage actual visits. On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 1:39 AM Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
I wanted to point someone to a site which has pictures from our Infoage museum, but have come to the conclusion that there is no official site like that. Is anyone working on a museum page? I suspect there are lots of pictures floating around in personal collections, but it would be nice to have an official (virtual) museum page.
The official page is http://vcfed.org/wp/vcf-museum/.
I agree that we need more than this.
Curious minds want to know, what's the other page you mentioned?
On Jun 7, 2017, at 6:36 AM, Dean Notarnicola via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
I think what he's saying is that there is no virtual museum page. And IIRC, its been discussed, and the thought is that a comprehensive virtual museum may discourage actual visits.
On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 1:39 AM Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
I wanted to point someone to a site which has pictures from our Infoage museum, but have come to the conclusion that there is no official site like that. Is anyone working on a museum page? I suspect there are lots of pictures floating around in personal collections, but it would be nice to have an official (virtual) museum page.
The official page is http://vcfed.org/wp/vcf-museum/.
I agree that we need more than this.
Curious minds want to know, what's the other page you mentioned?
I don't disagree about an actual virtual tour possibly being counter productive, but a few still images of the isles or a brief slide show of a few key items and a "grand shot" of the room would be extremely helpful. I try to describe the space to people best I can but some visual cues would go a long way towards enticing people to want to come to see more. Just enough to whet their appetites and give an inkling of what's inside. Even by vintage computer standards the information out there and the visibility of the museum (really infoage as a whole) is quite spartan. I have spent my entire life about 15 minutes from camp Evans and had no idea it was even there. That was fine when it was a military base/research facility, but In the past decade + that's a detriment to the health and viability of the site. Obviously infoage proper is limited in its ability to self promote, as is each individual group within. But if we can maximize our individual exposure/visibility then both we, and by association infoage as a whole, will benefit. Just my .02, but we need more info online, not less. Tony
Hi all, I agree with this suggestion. I keep a list of links to other computer museums on my Vintage Mac Museum website, and comparatively there’s very little visual presence to point to for the VCF museum online. Including a few pictures of the physical space and some spotlighted gear, all on a single page, would be a nice improvement. Doesn’t need to be a virtual museum, just some informative visual PR. Possibly including a map of where InfoAge is relative to NY/NJ for visitors comtemplating the trip would also be helpful. Adam --- Oakbog - Supporting All Things Apple - Boston MA Adam Rosen - Owner & CTO - adam@oakbog.com - 617-480-6436 • Apple Certified Macintosh and iOS Consulting - oakbog.com <http://oakbog.com/> • The Vintage Mac Museum - vintagemacmuseum.com <http://vintagemacmuseum.com/>
On Jun 7, 2017, at 8:08 AM, Tony Bogan via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
I don't disagree about an actual virtual tour possibly being counter productive, but a few still images of the isles or a brief slide show of a few key items and a "grand shot" of the room would be extremely helpful. I try to describe the space to people best I can but some visual cues would go a long way towards enticing people to want to come to see more.
Just enough to whet their appetites and give an inkling of what's inside.
The map is a must-have and a link to the IA site is not the same thing. Jim On Wed, 7 Jun 2017, Adam Rosen via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 08:34:33 -0400 From: Adam Rosen via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> Cc: Adam Rosen <adam@oakbog.com> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Museum pictures
Hi all,
I agree with this suggestion. I keep a list of links to other computer museums on my Vintage Mac Museum website, and comparatively there’s very little visual presence to point to for the VCF museum online. Including a few pictures of the physical space and some spotlighted gear, all on a single page, would be a nice improvement. Doesn’t need to be a virtual museum, just some informative visual PR.
Possibly including a map of where InfoAge is relative to NY/NJ for visitors comtemplating the trip would also be helpful.
Adam
--- Oakbog - Supporting All Things Apple - Boston MA Adam Rosen - Owner & CTO - adam@oakbog.com - 617-480-6436 • Apple Certified Macintosh and iOS Consulting - oakbog.com <http://oakbog.com/> • The Vintage Mac Museum - vintagemacmuseum.com <http://vintagemacmuseum.com/>
On Jun 7, 2017, at 8:08 AM, Tony Bogan via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
I don't disagree about an actual virtual tour possibly being counter productive, but a few still images of the isles or a brief slide show of a few key items and a "grand shot" of the room would be extremely helpful. I try to describe the space to people best I can but some visual cues would go a long way towards enticing people to want to come to see more.
Just enough to whet their appetites and give an inkling of what's inside.
js@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
If we are willing to enhance the experience from viewing lifeless artifacts to showing operating equipment and a good bit of hands on I think it would be some mighty strong gravity. The problem is half our artifacts are lifeless because they either don't run yet or they can't have monitors hooked up. And we don't have anything yet that visitors can do that's hands on.
On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 10:04 PM, Jim Scheef via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
The map is a must-have and a link to the IA site is not the same thing. Jim
On Wed, 7 Jun 2017, Adam Rosen via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 08:34:33 -0400
From: Adam Rosen via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> Cc: Adam Rosen <adam@oakbog.com> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Museum pictures
Hi all,
I agree with this suggestion. I keep a list of links to other computer museums on my Vintage Mac Museum website, and comparatively there’s very little visual presence to point to for the VCF museum online. Including a few pictures of the physical space and some spotlighted gear, all on a single page, would be a nice improvement. Doesn’t need to be a virtual museum, just some informative visual PR.
Possibly including a map of where InfoAge is relative to NY/NJ for visitors comtemplating the trip would also be helpful.
Adam
--- Oakbog - Supporting All Things Apple - Boston MA Adam Rosen - Owner & CTO - adam@oakbog.com - 617-480-6436 • Apple Certified Macintosh and iOS Consulting - oakbog.com < http://oakbog.com/> • The Vintage Mac Museum - vintagemacmuseum.com < http://vintagemacmuseum.com/>
On Jun 7, 2017, at 8:08 AM, Tony Bogan via vcf-midatlantic <
vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
I don't disagree about an actual virtual tour possibly being counter productive, but a few still images of the isles or a brief slide show of a few key items and a "grand shot" of the room would be extremely helpful. I try to describe the space to people best I can but some visual cues would go a long way towards enticing people to want to come to see more.
Just enough to whet their appetites and give an inkling of what's inside.
js@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
If we are willing to enhance the experience from viewing lifeless artifacts to showing operating equipment and a good bit of hands on I think it would be some mighty strong gravity. The problem is half our artifacts are lifeless because they either don't run yet or they can't have monitors hooked up. And we don't have anything yet that visitors can do that's hands on.
We're getting there. All of our docents should be showing kids some simple BASIC on the micro of their choice. We upgraded from paper signs to tablets so there is more "touch" involved. Chris F. mentioned that he'd like to build a giant mechanical 2-bit adder on our hallway wall. After Kfest this summer I'm going to start planning the Lego parent/child learning station. Further down the road, we'd like to connect the PiDP to our LA120 and the straight 8 to the ASR33. Bill I. is restoring the TR-20 and plans to incorporate a plotter. Mike L. just started working on the HP mini. If he can get one of its drives going, then we can load an OS to let people log in and do things. And of course there's the BBS project, plus the ultimate restoration of all -- the UNIVAC.
Get the tapes working. Tapes rock! On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
If we are willing to enhance the experience from viewing lifeless artifacts to showing operating equipment and a good bit of hands on I think it would be some mighty strong gravity. The problem is half our artifacts are lifeless because they either don't run yet or they can't have monitors hooked up. And we don't have anything yet that visitors can do that's hands on.
We're getting there.
All of our docents should be showing kids some simple BASIC on the micro of their choice.
We upgraded from paper signs to tablets so there is more "touch" involved.
Chris F. mentioned that he'd like to build a giant mechanical 2-bit adder on our hallway wall.
After Kfest this summer I'm going to start planning the Lego parent/child learning station.
Further down the road, we'd like to connect the PiDP to our LA120 and the straight 8 to the ASR33.
Bill I. is restoring the TR-20 and plans to incorporate a plotter.
Mike L. just started working on the HP mini. If he can get one of its drives going, then we can load an OS to let people log in and do things.
And of course there's the BBS project, plus the ultimate restoration of all -- the UNIVAC.
The HP 1000 system has a 9-track tape drive, but the processor is missing the interface card for the drive. They're pretty hard to find. On Mon, 12 Jun 2017, Bob Flanders via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Get the tapes working. Tapes rock!
On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
If we are willing to enhance the experience from viewing lifeless artifacts to showing operating equipment and a good bit of hands on I think it would be some mighty strong gravity. The problem is half our artifacts are lifeless because they either don't run yet or they can't have monitors hooked up. And we don't have anything yet that visitors can do that's hands on.
We're getting there.
All of our docents should be showing kids some simple BASIC on the micro of their choice.
We upgraded from paper signs to tablets so there is more "touch" involved.
Chris F. mentioned that he'd like to build a giant mechanical 2-bit adder on our hallway wall.
After Kfest this summer I'm going to start planning the Lego parent/child learning station.
Further down the road, we'd like to connect the PiDP to our LA120 and the straight 8 to the ASR33.
Bill I. is restoring the TR-20 and plans to incorporate a plotter.
Mike L. just started working on the HP mini. If he can get one of its drives going, then we can load an OS to let people log in and do things.
And of course there's the BBS project, plus the ultimate restoration of all -- the UNIVAC.
Mike Loewen mloewen@cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/
I don't disagree about an actual virtual tour possibly being counter productive, but a few still images of the isles or a brief slide show of a few key items and a "grand shot" of the room would be extremely helpful. I try to describe the space to people best I can but some visual cues would go a long way towards enticing people to want to come to see more.
I completely agree. We should do that.
I have spent my entire life about 15 minutes from camp Evans and had no idea it was even there.
Well it * was * secret. :)
On Wed, 7 Jun 2017, Evan Koblentz wrote:
I wanted to point someone to a site which has pictures from our Infoage museum, but have come to the conclusion that there is no official site like that. Is anyone working on a museum page? I suspect there are lots of pictures floating around in personal collections, but it would be nice to have an official (virtual) museum page.
The official page is http://vcfed.org/wp/vcf-museum/.
I agree that we need more than this.
Curious minds want to know, what's the other page you mentioned?
I didn't have any particular page in mind. I have a link to museum pictures on my site, but it's from 2011. Mike Loewen mloewen@cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/
There are a few pictures of the museum on the Facebook page. On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 8:54 AM, Mike Loewen via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jun 2017, Evan Koblentz wrote:
I wanted to point someone to a site which has pictures from our Infoage
museum, but have come to the conclusion that there is no official site like that. Is anyone working on a museum page? I suspect there are lots of pictures floating around in personal collections, but it would be nice to have an official (virtual) museum page.
The official page is http://vcfed.org/wp/vcf-museum/.
I agree that we need more than this.
Curious minds want to know, what's the other page you mentioned?
I didn't have any particular page in mind. I have a link to museum pictures on my site, but it's from 2011.
Mike Loewen mloewen@cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/
As a docent, I took some photos a ways back attempting decent coverage and just put them on my imgur account. Its not official or complete, but perhaps useful for now. http://imgur.com/a/tjYMm It would be great if we did something like what I have here on the VCFed site that we could put our official descriptions and let folks also ad personal accounts and comments. On 6/7/2017 9:58 AM, Drew Notarnicola via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
There are a few pictures of the museum on the Facebook page.
On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 8:54 AM, Mike Loewen via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jun 2017, Evan Koblentz wrote:
I wanted to point someone to a site which has pictures from our Infoage
museum, but have come to the conclusion that there is no official site like that. Is anyone working on a museum page? I suspect there are lots of pictures floating around in personal collections, but it would be nice to have an official (virtual) museum page.
The official page is http://vcfed.org/wp/vcf-museum/.
I agree that we need more than this.
Curious minds want to know, what's the other page you mentioned?
I didn't have any particular page in mind. I have a link to museum pictures on my site, but it's from 2011.
Mike Loewen mloewen@cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/
As a docent, I took some photos a ways back attempting decent coverage and just put them on my imgur account. Its not official or complete, but perhaps useful for now. http://imgur.com/a/tjYMm It would be great if we did something like what I have
IMO that's a bit too much of "giving away" what there is to see there. and let folks also ad personal accounts and comments It definitely might be a good page on which we can enable comments.
On Wed, 7 Jun 2017, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
As a docent, I took some photos a ways back attempting decent coverage and just put them on my imgur account. Its not official or complete, but perhaps useful for now. http://imgur.com/a/tjYMm It would be great if we did something like what I have
IMO that's a bit too much of "giving away" what there is to see there.
and let folks also ad personal accounts and comments
It definitely might be a good page on which we can enable comments.
Personally, I don't get the "don't show them pictures, or they might not come" thing. I'd rather see the machines in person, and seeing what the museum has to offer would just whet my appetite. I was talking up the museum to a fellow geek the other day, and realized that there wasn't much online to really pique his interest. I like the idea of a feedback section too, but it would have to be monitored like any other open forum. Mike Loewen mloewen@cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/
Pictures of everything is just the first step. More important are the words. This museum is about things that work that mortal people can touch. The pictures should show that happening. Jim On Wed, 7 Jun 2017, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 21:59:20 -0400 From: Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> Cc: Evan Koblentz <evan@vcfed.org> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Museum pictures
Personally, I don't get the "don't show them pictures, or they might not come" thing.
I never said don't show pictures. I said let's not show everything. Leave something to the imagination.
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