On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 5:26 PM bob jeffway.com via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:

I agree 100%!! I co-teach a class at University Of Massachusetts in Amherst using Bob Applegate's KIM-1 replicas. We start with machine language programming, then move to an assembler, and teach all the low-level stuff; address bus, data bus, controls, clock, etc. and how to interface hardware.

Bob Jeffway

This is my first post, hopefully I did it right? Is a Reply All correct?

Hi Bob! Good to see you on the list and post. Yes your post worked and you are cleared to post in the future. I always do reply all to be safe. The Google app defaults to reply to sender and not all, so one has to go out of their way to reply all. Jeff Brace

On 12/14/2022 8:51 AM EST Jonathan Chapman via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:

This is from a programmer's point of view but still interesting reading

https://github.com/readme/featured/vintage-computing

Decent article! There's absolutely value in learning this old stuff. I still maintain that hacking on old computers at the architecture/machine code/asm level gave me a distinct advantage over "academically stronger" (better at memorizing, mostly) folks in college.

I don't know if they're still doing it, but at some point in talking with folks at the MIT Flea, someone had related that MIT was still offering either a comp arch or comp org type of course using the PDP-11. This was some time between 2010 and 2015. Like the article says, before a point it's possible to understand all parts of a whole system.

Thanks, Jonathan

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