Re: [vcf-midatlantic] we need an endearing term for our computer pioneers/founders
I agree with "logged off" because it is the most human. It is something humans do. where as the shutdown commands are more technical and cold. I think Evan's "logged off" is the best so far.
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 10:51 AM Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I agree with "logged off" because it is the most human. It is something humans do. where as the shutdown commands are more technical and cold.
I think Evan's "logged off" is the best so far.
sorry, I meant logged off (not logged out)
This is why such questions are presented to the collective, to discuss ideas. Death has always been a philosophical issue. That being said, I think "logged off" is a very good term of endearment for our hobby. I meant no disrespect for the EOL suggestion, and I'm sure those who initially agreed with it meant no disrespect either. It literally means "End of Life." Calling it cold or insensitive is a matter of perception. When our precious computer systems eventually reach their EOL, do we forget about them? No. We remember all the best of what they did and we pass that information on to a younger generation of computers to carry on that knowledge and purpose. It doesn't invalidate anything the former computer has done. That's also precisely what happens with the people in this hobby/industry. On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 11:01 AM Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 10:51 AM Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I agree with "logged off" because it is the most human. It is something humans do. where as the shutdown commands are more technical and cold.
I think Evan's "logged off" is the best so far.
sorry, I meant logged off (not logged out)
On Fri, 10 Jan 2020, Jeff Salzman via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
This is why such questions are presented to the collective, to discuss ideas.
Death has always been a philosophical issue. That being said, I think "logged off" is a very good term of endearment for our hobby.
I meant no disrespect for the EOL suggestion, and I'm sure those who initially agreed with it meant no disrespect either. It literally means "End of Life." Calling it cold or insensitive is a matter of perception.
EOL can also mean "End Of Line". Re: Tron. Mike Loewen mloewen@cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/
Call for a vote? Or have we already established a winner? (Logged Off) Jeff Jonas, what did you have in mind to make this “official”?
On Jan 10, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Jeff Salzman via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
This is why such questions are presented to the collective, to discuss ideas. Death has always been a philosophical issue. That being said, I think "logged off" is a very good term of endearment for our hobby. I meant no disrespect for the EOL suggestion, and I'm sure those who initially agreed with it meant no disrespect either. It literally means "End of Life." Calling it cold or insensitive is a matter of perception. When our precious computer systems eventually reach their EOL, do we forget about them? No. We remember all the best of what they did and we pass that information on to a younger generation of computers to carry on that knowledge and purpose. It doesn't invalidate anything the former computer has done. That's also precisely what happens with the people in this hobby/industry.
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 11:01 AM Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 10:51 AM Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I agree with "logged off" because it is the most human. It is something humans do. where as the shutdown commands are more technical and cold.
I think Evan's "logged off" is the best so far.
sorry, I meant logged off (not logged out)
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 5:19 PM Jeff Salzman via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I meant no disrespect for the EOL suggestion, and I'm sure those who initially agreed with it meant no disrespect either. It literally means "End of Life." Calling it cold or insensitive is a matter of perception. When our precious computer systems eventually reach their EOL, do we forget about them? No. We remember all the best of what they did and we pass that information on to a younger generation of computers to carry on that knowledge and purpose. It doesn't invalidate anything the former computer has done.
I don't think anyone who made suggestions meant any disrespect. I'm sorry if I have that impression, I didn't mean to. I think many of the ideas work for us, but I think a family member would more accept "logged off" as that is what people do, versus End of Line, or End of Life which is what we apply to computers I just think we should distinguish the people from the computers or programs. That's all Again I'm sorry if I insulated anyone
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