semi OT: BBC micro:bit on sale at Microcenter
I know it's a hard sell compared to the $5 Raspberry Pi zero, but http://microbit.org/ The BBC micro:bit is a pocket-sized codeable computer with motion detection, a built-in compass and Bluetooth technology, which was given free to every child in year 7 or equivalent across the UK in 2016. A collaboration between 29 partners, the BBC micro:bit is the BBC's most ambitious education initiative in 30 years, with an ambition to inspire digital creativity and develop a new generation of tech pioneers. They are on sale at Microcenter. $10 is the bare board. The kit includes battery holder, USB cable. The edge connector seems to be hard to get :-( http://www.microcenter.com/product/480031/MicroBit Element 14 Micro:Bit now $9.99 (was $12.99 SAVE $3.00) 10+ in stock at North Jersey / Paterson Store http://www.microcenter.com/product/480034/MicroBit_Go_Kit Element 14 Micro:Bit Go Kit 10+ in stock at North Jersey / Paterson Store now $11.99 (was $16.49 SAVE $4.50)
On 08/28/2017 06:32 PM, Jeffrey Jonas via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I know it's a hard sell compared to the $5 Raspberry Pi zero, but
The BBC micro:bit is a pocket-sized codeable computer with motion detection, a built-in compass and Bluetooth technology, which was given free to every child in year 7 or equivalent across the UK in 2016. I won one of these a about a year before they were readily available here in the US. I've gotten to play with it a fair bit.
It's actually more like the original vision of the Raspberry Pi - an ARM based computer programmed with Python. I guess there are other options, but I only use MicroPython on my Linux box to program it. Hardware wise, it's more like an Arduino than a Raspi. Or maybe somewhere between the two. It's interesting and has some different features including to buttons and a 5x5 LED array, accelerator, a compass, and some wireless com options. - Derrik -- -- Derrik Derrik Walker v2.0, RHCE dwalker@doomd.net "Those UNIX guys, they think weird!" -- John C. Dvorak
On 8/28/2017 8:27 PM, Derrik Walker v2.0 via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
On 08/28/2017 06:32 PM, Jeffrey Jonas via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I know it's a hard sell compared to the $5 Raspberry Pi zero, but
The BBC micro:bit is a pocket-sized codeable computer with motion detection, a built-in compass and Bluetooth technology, which was given free to every child in year 7 or equivalent across the UK in 2016. I won one of these a about a year before they were readily available here in the US. I've gotten to play with it a fair bit.
It's actually more like the original vision of the Raspberry Pi - an ARM based computer programmed with Python. I guess there are other options, but I only use MicroPython on my Linux box to program it.
Hardware wise, it's more like an Arduino than a Raspi. Or maybe somewhere between the two.
It's interesting and has some different features including to buttons and a 5x5 LED array, accelerator, a compass, and some wireless com options.
- Derrik
As someone who has a representation of many of the available embedded solution boards (St8m, ST32, a ton of Arduinos, several ATMEL oards, Several PIs, Beaglebone etc...) My first reaction was oh just what we need, yet another board option and form factor... but I took a closer look and I think its cool. I'll be getting one.
I'm thinking about picking up a couple for my kids (and maybe one for me as well). I'd love to find a "Teachers guide" for it. Maybe talk to some of the other parents in the complex I live in and do like weekly classes for these. Anyone know if some type of teachers guide exists? I'll have to look through the website and see how I could try to convince some of the various parents in the area how having the kids learn to use/program these would be helpful to them. Joe On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 9:49 PM Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On 8/28/2017 8:27 PM, Derrik Walker v2.0 via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
On 08/28/2017 06:32 PM, Jeffrey Jonas via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I know it's a hard sell compared to the $5 Raspberry Pi zero, but
The BBC micro:bit is a pocket-sized codeable computer with motion detection, a built-in compass and Bluetooth technology, which was given free to every child in year 7 or equivalent across the UK in 2016. I won one of these a about a year before they were readily available here in the US. I've gotten to play with it a fair bit.
It's actually more like the original vision of the Raspberry Pi - an ARM based computer programmed with Python. I guess there are other options, but I only use MicroPython on my Linux box to program it.
Hardware wise, it's more like an Arduino than a Raspi. Or maybe somewhere between the two.
It's interesting and has some different features including to buttons and a 5x5 LED array, accelerator, a compass, and some wireless com options.
- Derrik
As someone who has a representation of many of the available embedded solution boards (St8m, ST32, a ton of Arduinos, several ATMEL oards, Several PIs, Beaglebone etc...) My first reaction was oh just what we need, yet another board option and form factor... but I took a closer look and I think its cool. I'll be getting one.
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Normal Person: Hey, it seems that you know a lot. Geek: To be honest, it's due to all the surfing I do. Normal Person: So you go surfing? Normal Person: But I don't think that has anything to do with knowing a lot... Geek: I think that's wrong on a fundamental level. Normal Person: Huh? Huh? What?
You might try: https://www.microbit.co.uk/td/quick-start/ I'm not a big fan of the MicroBit so far, though. I find it to be a poor substitute for the Raspberry Pi for programming instruction and a poor substitute for the Arduino for science/electrical engineering instruction. There is a valid point for the latter than the cost per student is much less, though. Best wishes, -Adam On 8/29/2017 4:53 PM, Joseph Oprysko via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I'm thinking about picking up a couple for my kids (and maybe one for me as well).
I'd love to find a "Teachers guide" for it. Maybe talk to some of the other parents in the complex I live in and do like weekly classes for these.
Anyone know if some type of teachers guide exists?
I'll have to look through the website and see how I could try to convince some of the various parents in the area how having the kids learn to use/program these would be helpful to them.
Joe
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 9:49 PM Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On 8/28/2017 8:27 PM, Derrik Walker v2.0 via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
On 08/28/2017 06:32 PM, Jeffrey Jonas via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I know it's a hard sell compared to the $5 Raspberry Pi zero, but
The BBC micro:bit is a pocket-sized codeable computer with motion detection, a built-in compass and Bluetooth technology, which was given free to every child in year 7 or equivalent across the UK in 2016. I won one of these a about a year before they were readily available here in the US. I've gotten to play with it a fair bit.
It's actually more like the original vision of the Raspberry Pi - an ARM based computer programmed with Python. I guess there are other options, but I only use MicroPython on my Linux box to program it.
Hardware wise, it's more like an Arduino than a Raspi. Or maybe somewhere between the two.
It's interesting and has some different features including to buttons and a 5x5 LED array, accelerator, a compass, and some wireless com options.
- Derrik
As someone who has a representation of many of the available embedded solution boards (St8m, ST32, a ton of Arduinos, several ATMEL oards, Several PIs, Beaglebone etc...) My first reaction was oh just what we need, yet another board option and form factor... but I took a closer look and I think its cool. I'll be getting one.
-- Normal Person: Hey, it seems that you know a lot. Geek: To be honest, it's due to all the surfing I do. Normal Person: So you go surfing? Normal Person: But I don't think that has anything to do with knowing a lot... Geek: I think that's wrong on a fundamental level. Normal Person: Huh? Huh? What?
I picked up 2 Micro:bit Go (includes batteries, battery holder, and USB cable) for $11.99 each. As well as two RPi Zero W's at $5 each. Just not sure how to access the Pi Zero W's. Since no standard USB to plug in my USB mouse/Keyboard adapter. And not sure how I would connect Bluetooth mouse/keyboard to it. The micro:bit is actually pretty cool, as it has a good array of sensors. Compass, light sensor, gyro, accelerometer, temperature, magnetic field sensor, as well as the 5x5 LED display. Also it's possible to network multiple of them together via Bluetooth for various simple communication experiments or games. It's not meant as a "real" prototype board/microcontoller, and while the Pi may be more flexible in regards to programming, adding the array of sensors, even to a Pi Zero, would likely end up being a difficult proposition in itself. It's designed for youth with no electronics knowledge and no need to buy all kinds of shields/hats or electronic components. It gives the ability to work with a variety of different types of sensors, communication through Bluetooth or USB/Serial, and has all of the appropriate libraries for all of the components. It's designed as an early introduction to programming, while providing a very simple interface that kids have an easier time understanding. (Even my 16 year old daughter who has a learning disability "corrected" me while I was experimenting with it) as she learned about the "block" coding in school. It's easy to pick up and just start coding for the kids. While with a Pi you need to know a bit about working with Linux before you can get to programming, and everything on the arduinos, you need to have various modules or electronic components. And for the price, it's a great learning experience for them. I had gotten my 13 year old son an arduino starter kit with components for 21 different circuits. And he had fun doing two or three of them trying to learn, but having to keep putting circuits together and taking them apart, he got tired of it relatively quickly. He took the micro:bit and turned it into a "fridge thermometer" it only turns on when the fridge is opened, after the light intensity goes above an arbitrary value. He then said to me "this is the kind of stuff I wanted to do, building each project from scratch is a pain." So for me, the micro:bit boards were a great, low cost, investment. On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 5:04 PM Adam Michlin <amichlin@swerlin.com> wrote:
You might try:
https://www.microbit.co.uk/td/quick-start/
I'm not a big fan of the MicroBit so far, though. I find it to be a poor substitute for the Raspberry Pi for programming instruction and a poor substitute for the Arduino for science/electrical engineering instruction. There is a valid point for the latter than the cost per student is much less, though.
Best wishes,
-Adam
On 8/29/2017 4:53 PM, Joseph Oprysko via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I'm thinking about picking up a couple for my kids (and maybe one for me as well).
I'd love to find a "Teachers guide" for it. Maybe talk to some of the other parents in the complex I live in and do like weekly classes for these.
Anyone know if some type of teachers guide exists?
I'll have to look through the website and see how I could try to convince some of the various parents in the area how having the kids learn to use/program these would be helpful to them.
Joe
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 9:49 PM Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On 8/28/2017 8:27 PM, Derrik Walker v2.0 via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
On 08/28/2017 06:32 PM, Jeffrey Jonas via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I know it's a hard sell compared to the $5 Raspberry Pi zero, but
The BBC micro:bit is a pocket-sized codeable computer with motion detection, a built-in compass and Bluetooth technology, which was given free to every child in year 7 or equivalent across the UK in 2016. I won one of these a about a year before they were readily available here in the US. I've gotten to play with it a fair bit.
It's actually more like the original vision of the Raspberry Pi - an ARM based computer programmed with Python. I guess there are other options, but I only use MicroPython on my Linux box to program it.
Hardware wise, it's more like an Arduino than a Raspi. Or maybe somewhere between the two.
It's interesting and has some different features including to buttons and a 5x5 LED array, accelerator, a compass, and some wireless com options.
- Derrik
As someone who has a representation of many of the available embedded solution boards (St8m, ST32, a ton of Arduinos, several ATMEL oards, Several PIs, Beaglebone etc...) My first reaction was oh just what we need, yet another board option and form factor... but I took a closer look and I think its cool. I'll be getting one.
-- Normal Person: Hey, it seems that you know a lot. Geek: To be honest, it's due to all the surfing I do. Normal Person: So you go surfing? Normal Person: But I don't think that has anything to do with knowing a lot... Geek: I think that's wrong on a fundamental level. Normal Person: Huh? Huh? What?
-- Normal Person: Hey, it seems that you know a lot. Geek: To be honest, it's due to all the surfing I do. Normal Person: So you go surfing? Normal Person: But I don't think that has anything to do with knowing a lot... Geek: I think that's wrong on a fundamental level. Normal Person: Huh? Huh? What?
Ahh, okay. I'll have to look around for one of my powered hubs. Thanks. On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:38 PM Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
Just not sure how to access the Pi Zero W's. Since no standard USB to plug in my USB mouse/Keyboard adapter.
I used my Android phone charger/data cable to connect my Zero to a powered USB hub. Then I connected a keyboard and mouse to the hub.
-- Normal Person: Hey, it seems that you know a lot. Geek: To be honest, it's due to all the surfing I do. Normal Person: So you go surfing? Normal Person: But I don't think that has anything to do with knowing a lot... Geek: I think that's wrong on a fundamental level. Normal Person: Huh? Huh? What?
The Pi W is an OTG device so you need the correct cable to convert it to normal USB (and then into the hub). But you can configure the SD card with the correct information and it should boot. Problem is that they've disable the sshd by default (grrr). I haven't figured out how to get around that on the SD. So you'll probably need a monitor, keyboard and mouse to set it up the first time. -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
Once you get it like you like it, make a backup so you don't have to rebuild your Pi all over again. I have a library of various builds that I have created or downloaded. Using the GUI to get up and running is a timesaver anyway; installing SSH, wireless networking, USB to serial terminal, etc. can all be done using the GUI On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
you need the correct cable to convert it to normal USB
I thought I'd need a cable officially labeled as OTG but an ordinary Samsung phone charger cable worked fine. I figured it would, since the cable can be used to move data between phone and computer.
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