Re: [vcf-midatlantic] vcf-midatlantic Digest, Vol 10, Issue 15
What about my idea of having a panel session where people could ask questions on any computer repair topic and a panel of peeps would answer?
Pondering it. Not as high on the idea as I was before, for various logistical reasons.
Also, any possibility of Bill Herd doing his soldering class again? Doubtful we'd repeat the same narrow-ish topic two years in a row.
On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 5:47 PM Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
What about my idea of having a panel session where people could ask questions on any computer repair topic and a panel of peeps would answer?
Pondering it. Not as high on the idea as I was before, for various logistical reasons.
Also, any possibility of Bill Herd doing his soldering class again? Doubtful we'd repeat the same narrow-ish topic two years in a row.
How is soldering a narrow topic? -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation
Also, any possibility of Bill Herd doing his soldering class again? Doubtful we'd repeat the same narrow-ish topic two years in a row.
Seems to me it’s as broad a topic as it gets as relates to vintage computing (and vintage electronics as a whole) Nearly every machine we deal with either requires or will require some soldering at some point if we wish to keep them running. Same holds true for machines in most everyone’s collections. I’d like to see such a course be a yearly thing at VCF as it literally will never go out of style. Basic courses are awesome too, but even better if there’s also an expert or comprehensive class as well. Just my .02 Tony
On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 6:53 PM Evan Koblentz <evan@vcfed.org> wrote:
How is soldering a narrow topic?
It was surface-mount soldering.
The makerspace will do their usual learn-to-solder workshop during the show.
I will see if Bil wants to teach anything else this year.
I would love to see Bil again. It's always nice for him to be there. -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation
On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 6:53 PM Evan Koblentz <evan@vcfed.org> wrote:
How is soldering a narrow topic?
It was surface-mount soldering.
The makerspace will do their usual learn-to-solder workshop during the show.
I will see if Bil wants to teach anything else this year.
Maybe Bill wants to do a topic like this one on hackaday: https://hackaday.com/2019/01/24/video-putting-high-speed-pcb-design-to-the-t... It's basically about a misunderstanding on the effects of heat and aging. A lot of hobbyists are interested in finding ways to prolong the life of decades computer systems, with their chips, caps drying out, etc.. He argues that the failure isn't poor design or heat, but the shock of turning on a chip that breaks it . -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation
That would be a great topic. Bil is a fan fav and I think any topic he did would be a draw. On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 7:16 PM Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 6:53 PM Evan Koblentz <evan@vcfed.org> wrote:
How is soldering a narrow topic?
It was surface-mount soldering.
The makerspace will do their usual learn-to-solder workshop during the show.
I will see if Bil wants to teach anything else this year.
Maybe Bill wants to do a topic like this one on hackaday:
https://hackaday.com/2019/01/24/video-putting-high-speed-pcb-design-to-the-t...
It's basically about a misunderstanding on the effects of heat and aging. A lot of hobbyists are interested in finding ways to prolong the life of decades computer systems, with their chips, caps drying out, etc.. He argues that the failure isn't poor design or heat, but the shock of turning on a chip that breaks it .
-- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation
I will see if Bil wants to teach anything else this year.
Maybe Bill wants to do a topic like this one on hackaday: https://hackaday.com/2019/01/24/video-putting-high-speed-pcb-design-to-the-t...
It's basically about a misunderstanding on the effects of heat and aging. A lot of hobbyists are interested in finding ways to prolong the life of decades computer systems, with their chips, caps drying out, etc.. He argues that the failure isn't poor design or heat, but the shock of turning on a chip that breaks it
I emailed him a little while ago. Waiting to hear back. The last year or two he's wanted to do either historical stuff or far-out tech stuff, neither of which fits into why people buy tickets for Friday, and he didn't like it a couple of years ago when I had to say 'no' to his idea.
I think it would be great to have a class from Bil. Surface mount soldering would be a good class as I’d love to learn from someone other than Rossman group on YouTube. If that isn’t good, maybe we can have Bil talk about electronic design back in the 80’s vs now. Seems like back then things weren’t designed to be as disposable as today. Things back then either broke in the first year or lasted forever. corey cohen uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 15, 2019, at 7:30 PM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I will see if Bil wants to teach anything else this year.
Maybe Bill wants to do a topic like this one on hackaday: https://hackaday.com/2019/01/24/video-putting-high-speed-pcb-design-to-the-t...
It's basically about a misunderstanding on the effects of heat and aging. A lot of hobbyists are interested in finding ways to prolong the life of decades computer systems, with their chips, caps drying out, etc.. He argues that the failure isn't poor design or heat, but the shock of turning on a chip that breaks it
I emailed him a little while ago. Waiting to hear back.
The last year or two he's wanted to do either historical stuff or far-out tech stuff, neither of which fits into why people buy tickets for Friday, and he didn't like it a couple of years ago when I had to say 'no' to his idea.
Agreed. Bil is a draw regardless of subject. On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 7:41 PM corey cohen via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I think it would be great to have a class from Bil. Surface mount soldering would be a good class as I’d love to learn from someone other than Rossman group on YouTube.
If that isn’t good, maybe we can have Bil talk about electronic design back in the 80’s vs now. Seems like back then things weren’t designed to be as disposable as today. Things back then either broke in the first year or lasted forever.
corey cohen uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 15, 2019, at 7:30 PM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I will see if Bil wants to teach anything else this year.
Maybe Bill wants to do a topic like this one on hackaday: https://hackaday.com/2019/01/24/video-putting-high-speed-pcb-design-to-the-t...
It's basically about a misunderstanding on the effects of heat and aging. A lot of hobbyists are interested in finding ways to prolong the life of decades computer systems, with their chips, caps drying out, etc.. He argues that the failure isn't poor design or heat, but the shock of turning on a chip that breaks it
I emailed him a little while ago. Waiting to hear back.
The last year or two he's wanted to do either historical stuff or far-out tech stuff, neither of which fits into why people buy tickets for Friday, and he didn't like it a couple of years ago when I had to say 'no' to his idea.
I never get tired of Bil. He has so much experience it translates well into anything slightly related to our stuff. On Mar 15, 2019, at 7:30 PM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I will see if Bil wants to teach anything else this year.
Maybe Bill wants to do a topic like this one on hackaday: https://hackaday.com/2019/01/24/video-putting-high-speed-pcb-design-to-the-t...
It's basically about a misunderstanding on the effects of heat and aging. A lot of hobbyists are interested in finding ways to prolong the life of decades computer systems, with their chips, caps drying out, etc.. He argues that the failure isn't poor design or heat, but the shock of turning on a chip that breaks it
I emailed him a little while ago. Waiting to hear back. The last year or two he's wanted to do either historical stuff or far-out tech stuff, neither of which fits into why people buy tickets for Friday, and he didn't like it a couple of years ago when I had to say 'no' to his idea.
Everyone please take a chill pill. :) I emailed Bil and asked what HE wants to teach. I will post when he replies.
It's basically about a misunderstanding on the effects of heat and aging. A lot of hobbyists are interested in finding ways to prolong the life of decades computer systems, with their chips, caps drying out, etc.. He argues that the failure isn't poor design or heat, but the shock of turning on a chip that breaks it .
There’s a great thread on the Commodore International Historical Society FB group where Bil not only goes into great detail on the very topic of heat and time vs chips but also puts a few people in their proper places at the same time! Tony
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