Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Announcement: Administrative and Policy Changes
Just my two cents, but I feel like Mid-Atlantic should be retired for a more defined region name such as North East or New England to better define the center of the chapter's operations. The term "Mid- Atlantic" I have seen in other circles to be very broadly defined at times from as far south as the Carolinas and as far north as New York State. That being said I think there would be a benefit in selecting a name that better aligns with many of the other regional groups official or otherwise for the sake of consistency to the layman. I know that technically Vcf does live within the mid Atlantic boundary, but being on the outer edge, it may be best to focus on a more central name. Who knows, another group could pop up between new Jersey and Georgia one day. May as well plan for the future. Respectfully, Joshua. On Fri, Oct 25, 2024, 5:09 PM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Thomas and to all
Are the items that you mentioned here (and others pending) going to be brought up at the Festivus meeting that we usually have in December and VCF members allowed to vote on it?( or sooner) I am sure that you and the others will keep us Informed.
Mike Rosen
Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.
On Oct 25, 2024, at 2:40 PM, Thomas G via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
We in the steering committee have been considering making a number of changes to our operation, role, and focus for the past few weeks. We feel that our operation and communication has not been as effective as it could be, given our stated goals, and are also considering certain changes to the broader aspects of VCF Mid-Atlantic, such as membership, elections, and defining our role in relation to VCF National, largely in response to feedback from VCF Mid-Atlantic members. One of the changes we are considering, while largely inconsequential, is to revive the name 'MARCH' (short for 'Mid Atlantic Retro Computing Hobbyists') to replace the clunky 'VCF Mid-Atlantic'. We are still in the deliberating process, but one change worth reporting has already occurred - Jeff Salzman has delegated the role of Steering Committee Chairman to Thomas Gilinsky. The composition of the steering committee has not changed aside from this.
Further information will be made available as we finalize our decisions.
How about just VCFED-NJ people will generally know where New Jersey is located. If, someday, another chapter is opened in, say North Carolina, they can just call themselves VCFED-NC 73 Eugene W2HX My Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@w2hx/videos -----Original Message----- From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org> On Behalf Of Joshua Abraham via vcf-midatlantic Sent: Friday, October 25, 2024 6:16 PM To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Cc: Joshua Abraham <jarvideo@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Announcement: Administrative and Policy Changes Just my two cents, but I feel like Mid-Atlantic should be retired for a more defined region name such as North East or New England to better define the center of the chapter's operations. The term "Mid- Atlantic" I have seen in other circles to be very broadly defined at times from as far south as the Carolinas and as far north as New York State. That being said I think there would be a benefit in selecting a name that better aligns with many of the other regional groups official or otherwise for the sake of consistency to the layman. I know that technically Vcf does live within the mid Atlantic boundary, but being on the outer edge, it may be best to focus on a more central name. Who knows, another group could pop up between new Jersey and Georgia one day. May as well plan for the future. Respectfully, Joshua. On Fri, Oct 25, 2024, 5:09 PM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Thomas and to all
Are the items that you mentioned here (and others pending) going to be brought up at the Festivus meeting that we usually have in December and VCF members allowed to vote on it?( or sooner) I am sure that you and the others will keep us Informed.
Mike Rosen
Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.
On Oct 25, 2024, at 2:40 PM, Thomas G via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
We in the steering committee have been considering making a number of changes to our operation, role, and focus for the past few weeks. We feel that our operation and communication has not been as effective as it could be, given our stated goals, and are also considering certain changes to the broader aspects of VCF Mid-Atlantic, such as membership, elections, and defining our role in relation to VCF National, largely in response to feedback from VCF Mid-Atlantic members. One of the changes we are considering, while largely inconsequential, is to revive the name 'MARCH' (short for 'Mid Atlantic Retro Computing Hobbyists') to replace the clunky 'VCF Mid-Atlantic'. We are still in the deliberating process, but one change worth reporting has already occurred - Jeff Salzman has delegated the role of Steering Committee Chairman to Thomas Gilinsky. The composition of the steering committee has not changed aside from this.
Further information will be made available as we finalize our decisions.
The name MARCH was suggested because of its prior familiarity, and that there is already a BARCH for the Bay Area Retro Computing Hobbyists, which is technically VCF Bay Area. BARCH and MARCH Another reason to stick with the naming convention is that it rolls off the tongue better than saying a bunch of consonants, yet still maintaining a meaning as an acronym. Jeff Salzman On Sun, Oct 27, 2024, 3:57 PM W2HX via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
How about just VCFED-NJ people will generally know where New Jersey is located. If, someday, another chapter is opened in, say North Carolina, they can just call themselves VCFED-NC
73 Eugene W2HX My Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@w2hx/videos
-----Original Message----- From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org> On Behalf Of Joshua Abraham via vcf-midatlantic Sent: Friday, October 25, 2024 6:16 PM To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Cc: Joshua Abraham <jarvideo@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Announcement: Administrative and Policy Changes
Just my two cents, but I feel like Mid-Atlantic should be retired for a more defined region name such as North East or New England to better define the center of the chapter's operations.
The term "Mid- Atlantic" I have seen in other circles to be very broadly defined at times from as far south as the Carolinas and as far north as New York State.
That being said I think there would be a benefit in selecting a name that better aligns with many of the other regional groups official or otherwise for the sake of consistency to the layman.
I know that technically Vcf does live within the mid Atlantic boundary, but being on the outer edge, it may be best to focus on a more central name.
Who knows, another group could pop up between new Jersey and Georgia one day. May as well plan for the future.
Respectfully, Joshua.
On Fri, Oct 25, 2024, 5:09 PM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Thomas and to all
Are the items that you mentioned here (and others pending) going to be brought up at the Festivus meeting that we usually have in December and VCF members allowed to vote on it?( or sooner) I am sure that you and the others will keep us Informed.
Mike Rosen
Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.
On Oct 25, 2024, at 2:40 PM, Thomas G via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
We in the steering committee have been considering making a number of changes to our operation, role, and focus for the past few weeks. We feel that our operation and communication has not been as effective as it could be, given our stated goals, and are also considering certain changes to the broader aspects of VCF Mid-Atlantic, such as membership, elections, and defining our role in relation to VCF National, largely in response to feedback from VCF Mid-Atlantic members. One of the changes we are considering, while largely inconsequential, is to revive the name 'MARCH' (short for 'Mid Atlantic Retro Computing Hobbyists') to replace the clunky 'VCF Mid-Atlantic'. We are still in the deliberating process, but one change worth reporting has already occurred - Jeff Salzman has delegated the role of Steering Committee Chairman to Thomas Gilinsky. The composition of the steering committee has not changed aside from this.
Further information will be made available as we finalize our decisions.
On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 17:33 Jeff Salzman via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
The name MARCH was suggested because of its prior familiarity, and that there is already a BARCH for the Bay Area Retro Computing Hobbyists, which is technically VCF Bay Area.
A minor point. It is actually BACH. Erik didn’t like the acronym BARCH. “Retro” is in parentheses to distinguish it as not part of the acronym. But the full name is indeed Bay Area Retro Computing Hobbyists.
BARCH and MARCH
Another reason to stick with the naming convention is that it rolls off the tongue better than saying a bunch of consonants, yet still maintaining a meaning as an acronym.
Jeff Salzman
On Sun, Oct 27, 2024, 3:57 PM W2HX via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
How about just VCFED-NJ people will generally know where New Jersey is located. If, someday, another chapter is opened in, say North Carolina, they can just call themselves VCFED-NC
73 Eugene W2HX My Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@w2hx/videos
-----Original Message----- From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org> On Behalf Of Joshua Abraham via vcf-midatlantic Sent: Friday, October 25, 2024 6:16 PM To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Cc: Joshua Abraham <jarvideo@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Announcement: Administrative and Policy Changes
Just my two cents, but I feel like Mid-Atlantic should be retired for a more defined region name such as North East or New England to better define the center of the chapter's operations.
The term "Mid- Atlantic" I have seen in other circles to be very broadly defined at times from as far south as the Carolinas and as far north as New York State.
That being said I think there would be a benefit in selecting a name that better aligns with many of the other regional groups official or otherwise for the sake of consistency to the layman.
I know that technically Vcf does live within the mid Atlantic boundary, but being on the outer edge, it may be best to focus on a more central name.
Who knows, another group could pop up between new Jersey and Georgia one day. May as well plan for the future.
Respectfully, Joshua.
On Fri, Oct 25, 2024, 5:09 PM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Thomas and to all
Are the items that you mentioned here (and others pending) going to be brought up at the Festivus meeting that we usually have in December and VCF members allowed to vote on it?( or sooner) I am sure that you and the others will keep us Informed.
Mike Rosen
Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.
On Oct 25, 2024, at 2:40 PM, Thomas G via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
We in the steering committee have been considering making a number of changes to our operation, role, and focus for the past few weeks. We feel that our operation and communication has not been as effective as it could be, given our stated goals, and are also considering certain changes to the broader aspects of VCF Mid-Atlantic, such as membership, elections, and defining our role in relation to VCF National, largely in response to feedback from VCF Mid-Atlantic members. One of the changes we are considering, while largely inconsequential, is to revive the name 'MARCH' (short for 'Mid Atlantic Retro Computing Hobbyists') to replace the clunky 'VCF Mid-Atlantic'. We are still in the deliberating process, but one change worth reporting has already occurred - Jeff Salzman has delegated the role of Steering Committee Chairman to Thomas Gilinsky. The composition of the steering committee has not changed aside from this.
Further information will be made available as we finalize our decisions.
For what it’s worth, mid Atlantic represents from New York to North Carolina (north of Cape Hatteras specifically ). That is how it is defined by the federal government with its regional fisheries management councils and other governmental bodies. Being a boat guy, and having served on the mid Atlantic fisheries management Council for three years, I happen to know this! :-) The first reason that I could think of that removing VCF from the group would be detrimental is it’s a consistent nomenclature for the various festivals around the country. VCF East, VCF, Midwest, etc. etc. there are a number of reasons that Vintage Computer Federation was chosen in the first place, and I don’t see anything that has made those reasons any less valid than they were before. However, I also joined when it was still MARCH, and simply took the name change when it happened as part of the growth of the organization. The physical museum and warehouse may be in New Jersey, but there is a large number of regular attendees to workshops and other events that come from New York through Virginia on a regular basis, which is also part of the reason mid-Atlantic was chosen. Major events draw people from much further, or is it farther? I never get that one right! Of course, but we have certainly become far more than a New Jersey organization in my opinion than we were in the MARCH days. (Yes, plenty of people in MARCH from outside Jersey, but it has expanded significantly since then) That said, I’m good with just about anything the group decides! I apologize if some of this response is a little unclear, I am relying on Siri for my dictation as I am currently running the boat through the Point Pleasant Canal! Tony Bogan Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 27, 2024, at 5:45 PM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 17:33 Jeff Salzman via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
The name MARCH was suggested because of its prior familiarity, and that there is already a BARCH for the Bay Area Retro Computing Hobbyists, which is technically VCF Bay Area.
A minor point. It is actually BACH. Erik didn’t like the acronym BARCH. “Retro” is in parentheses to distinguish it as not part of the acronym. But the full name is indeed Bay Area Retro Computing Hobbyists.
BARCH and MARCH
Another reason to stick with the naming convention is that it rolls off the tongue better than saying a bunch of consonants, yet still maintaining a meaning as an acronym.
Jeff Salzman
On Sun, Oct 27, 2024, 3:57 PM W2HX via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
How about just VCFED-NJ people will generally know where New Jersey is located. If, someday, another chapter is opened in, say North Carolina, they can just call themselves VCFED-NC
73 Eugene W2HX My Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@w2hx/videos
-----Original Message----- From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org> On Behalf Of Joshua Abraham via vcf-midatlantic Sent: Friday, October 25, 2024 6:16 PM To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Cc: Joshua Abraham <jarvideo@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Announcement: Administrative and Policy Changes
Just my two cents, but I feel like Mid-Atlantic should be retired for a more defined region name such as North East or New England to better define the center of the chapter's operations.
The term "Mid- Atlantic" I have seen in other circles to be very broadly defined at times from as far south as the Carolinas and as far north as New York State.
That being said I think there would be a benefit in selecting a name that better aligns with many of the other regional groups official or otherwise for the sake of consistency to the layman.
I know that technically Vcf does live within the mid Atlantic boundary, but being on the outer edge, it may be best to focus on a more central name.
Who knows, another group could pop up between new Jersey and Georgia one day. May as well plan for the future.
Respectfully, Joshua.
On Fri, Oct 25, 2024, 5:09 PM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Thomas and to all
Are the items that you mentioned here (and others pending) going to be brought up at the Festivus meeting that we usually have in December and VCF members allowed to vote on it?( or sooner) I am sure that you and the others will keep us Informed.
Mike Rosen
Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.
On Oct 25, 2024, at 2:40 PM, Thomas G via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
We in the steering committee have been considering making a number of changes to our operation, role, and focus for the past few weeks. We feel that our operation and communication has not been as effective as it could be, given our stated goals, and are also considering certain changes to the broader aspects of VCF Mid-Atlantic, such as membership, elections, and defining our role in relation to VCF National, largely in response to feedback from VCF Mid-Atlantic members. One of the changes we are considering, while largely inconsequential, is to revive the name 'MARCH' (short for 'Mid Atlantic Retro Computing Hobbyists') to replace the clunky 'VCF Mid-Atlantic'. We are still in the deliberating process, but one change worth reporting has already occurred - Jeff Salzman has delegated the role of Steering Committee Chairman to Thomas Gilinsky. The composition of the steering committee has not changed aside from this.
Further information will be made available as we finalize our decisions.
I’m here. I thought VCF was chosen to compete with TCF. Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.
On Oct 27, 2024, at 5:33 PM, Jeff Salzman via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
The name MARCH was suggested because of its prior familiarity, and that there is already a BARCH for the Bay Area Retro Computing Hobbyists, which is technically VCF Bay Area.
BARCH and MARCH
Another reason to stick with the naming convention is that it rolls off the tongue better than saying a bunch of consonants, yet still maintaining a meaning as an acronym.
Jeff Salzman
On Sun, Oct 27, 2024, 3:57 PM W2HX via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
How about just VCFED-NJ people will generally know where New Jersey is located. If, someday, another chapter is opened in, say North Carolina, they can just call themselves VCFED-NC
73 Eugene W2HX My Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@w2hx/videos
-----Original Message----- From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org> On Behalf Of Joshua Abraham via vcf-midatlantic Sent: Friday, October 25, 2024 6:16 PM To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Cc: Joshua Abraham <jarvideo@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Announcement: Administrative and Policy Changes
Just my two cents, but I feel like Mid-Atlantic should be retired for a more defined region name such as North East or New England to better define the center of the chapter's operations.
The term "Mid- Atlantic" I have seen in other circles to be very broadly defined at times from as far south as the Carolinas and as far north as New York State.
That being said I think there would be a benefit in selecting a name that better aligns with many of the other regional groups official or otherwise for the sake of consistency to the layman.
I know that technically Vcf does live within the mid Atlantic boundary, but being on the outer edge, it may be best to focus on a more central name.
Who knows, another group could pop up between new Jersey and Georgia one day. May as well plan for the future.
Respectfully, Joshua.
On Fri, Oct 25, 2024, 5:09 PM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Thomas and to all
Are the items that you mentioned here (and others pending) going to be brought up at the Festivus meeting that we usually have in December and VCF members allowed to vote on it?( or sooner) I am sure that you and the others will keep us Informed.
Mike Rosen
Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.
On Oct 25, 2024, at 2:40 PM, Thomas G via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
We in the steering committee have been considering making a number of changes to our operation, role, and focus for the past few weeks. We feel that our operation and communication has not been as effective as it could be, given our stated goals, and are also considering certain changes to the broader aspects of VCF Mid-Atlantic, such as membership, elections, and defining our role in relation to VCF National, largely in response to feedback from VCF Mid-Atlantic members. One of the changes we are considering, while largely inconsequential, is to revive the name 'MARCH' (short for 'Mid Atlantic Retro Computing Hobbyists') to replace the clunky 'VCF Mid-Atlantic'. We are still in the deliberating process, but one change worth reporting has already occurred - Jeff Salzman has delegated the role of Steering Committee Chairman to Thomas Gilinsky. The composition of the steering committee has not changed aside from this.
Further information will be made available as we finalize our decisions.
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