Ignored.... On Tuesday, January 3, 2017, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
-- Normal Person: Hey, it seems that you know a lot. Geek: To be honest, it's due to all the surfing I do. Normal Person: So you go surfing? Normal Person: But I don't think that has anything to do with knowing a lot... Geek: I think that's wrong on a fundamental level. Normal Person: Huh? Huh? What?
what is vintage? On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 10:56 PM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
Ignore what?
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 6:44 PM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
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Pentiums, right? Windows 98? On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 11:13 PM william degnan via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
what is vintage?
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 10:56 PM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
Ignore what?
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 6:44 PM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
-- Jeff Brace - ark72axow@gmail.com
I agree. We should start a history of Intel processors section in the museum. Let's put it in the artifact of the month section. On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 12:12 AM Todd George via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
Pentiums, right? Windows 98?
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 11:13 PM william degnan via vcf-midatlantic <
vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
what is vintage?
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 10:56 PM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic <
vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
Ignore what?
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 6:44 PM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic <
vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
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I agree. We should start a history of Intel processors section in the museum. Let's put it in the artifact of the month section.
This stemmed from a joke thread (silly replies to my test message, which was legitimate), but the idea has been floated before and it's a decent one. Jeff J. put several processors into a small desktop-sized display case several years ago. We didn't display it because at the time there was no extra space (in the old museum) nor was there context -- a bunch of chips in a case means zilch to the public. Nowadays the museum has a much higher bar. Probably the best way to do this is with a wall-mounted exhibit (possibly in the hallway) and a slide show to explain the context. The slide show would also have content about what came before chips. We could easily have a nice wall-mounted exhibit showing a timeline from tubes to transistors to chips, along with some in-between technologies such as the micro-module (which Camp Evans was involved in testing). I will give this some more thought after we finish the modern history exhibit.
Having each processor sitting on a nice photo print of the die would make for a nice display. Perhaps something similar could be done to show how process density improved? Put scaled versions of the die pictures on top of each other? -J On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 12:45 PM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
I agree. We should start a history of Intel processors section in the museum. Let's put it in the artifact of the month section.
This stemmed from a joke thread (silly replies to my test message, which was legitimate), but the idea has been floated before and it's a decent one.
Jeff J. put several processors into a small desktop-sized display case several years ago. We didn't display it because at the time there was no extra space (in the old museum) nor was there context -- a bunch of chips in a case means zilch to the public. Nowadays the museum has a much higher bar.
Probably the best way to do this is with a wall-mounted exhibit (possibly in the hallway) and a slide show to explain the context. The slide show would also have content about what came before chips. We could easily have a nice wall-mounted exhibit showing a timeline from tubes to transistors to chips, along with some in-between technologies such as the micro-module (which Camp Evans was involved in testing).
I will give this some more thought after we finish the modern history exhibit.
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Having each processor sitting on a nice photo print of the die would make for a nice display. Perhaps something similar could be done to show how process density improved? Put scaled versions of the die pictures on top of each other?
Much easier to KISS and have text explaining the speed improvements. But this gives me an idea. Step 1. We could put a massive X-axis on the wall marking the decades (1940s-present) along with artifacts showing processors and memory. Step 2. In the next big expansion (probably a few years from now), we should include storage along the same timeline. As of now there is no space for freestanding drives in the hallway. :)
If you do this, please get a secure frame with shatter proof glass. Chips are very collectable and if you put a 4004 up to now that's thousands of dollars worth of chips. The 8080s and 4004s I have seen in other museums are under some heavy plexiglass
If you do this, please get a secure frame with shatter proof glass.
Chips are very collectable and if you put a 4004 up to now that's thousands of dollars worth of chips.
The 8080s and 4004s I have seen in other museums are under some heavy plexiglass
Good point, although I don't think we have a 4004. We do have a 6501. :) Talk about uber-rare.
On 01/04/2017 03:37 PM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
If you do this, please get a secure frame with shatter proof glass.
Chips are very collectable and if you put a 4004 up to now that's thousands of dollars worth of chips.
The 8080s and 4004s I have seen in other museums are under some heavy plexiglass
Good point, although I don't think we have a 4004.
We do have a 6501. :) Talk about uber-rare.
I'll trade you three 4004s for your 6501. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
On 01/04/2017 04:28 PM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Good point, although I don't think we have a 4004.
We do have a 6501. :) Talk about uber-rare.
I'll trade you three 4004s for your 6501. ;)
No. :)
Four? B-) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
That sounds fair! On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On 01/04/2017 03:37 PM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
If you do this, please get a secure frame with shatter proof glass.
Chips are very collectable and if you put a 4004 up to now that's thousands of dollars worth of chips.
The 8080s and 4004s I have seen in other museums are under some heavy plexiglass
Good point, although I don't think we have a 4004.
We do have a 6501. :) Talk about uber-rare.
I'll trade you three 4004s for your 6501. ;)
-Dave
-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
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