As vintage interest increases in the early IBM PC era computers, and in 386/486 PC's, I have a question. Is there any current interest in the early semi-compatible PC's? I mean of course, the 8088/88 systems near and after the IBM PC of 1981, where a number of manufacturers made MS-DOS systems which had most of the IBM PC hardware, some PC functionality (or better!) but was not 100% hardware compatible. It took some years for the "market" to decide, IBM PC software HAD to use every hardware trick to gain performance, and it could only do that if EVERY "PC" had the same IBM PC hardware. And, hardware HAD to be IBM PC and ISA compatible so it would run with minimal grief in PC's of the day, and their software. Eventually, the "Tiawan clones" came out, which were 100% PC compatible, and cheaper, and thus "PC compatible" became a redundant phrase. I know there's some interest in say Compaqs, which at times led the way over IBM. But those were pretty compatible too. But that leaves a bunch of S-100 systems, some Heath/Zenith systems, brands like Victor and God-knows how many others, who produced those semi-compatible systems, which were soon abandoned. Now, S-100, I can deal with and those catch some people's interest. In fact there's a lot of 3rd party PC hardware for the Heath/zenith Z-100 (Z-120 series). But Zenith 150-series systems, with five boards in some super-ISA backplane? Forgedabotit. I show some of the Zenith 151-s on my Web site, and of course Z-100's; so I get inquiries, like today, where someone has a Z-151 to offer. I tell them "sorry, no one cares". Comments? Herb Johnson -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net
It's hard enough to see regular IBM PC/XT's for much, so yes I agree its at best a niche market. Plus they're likely heavy to ship. The DEC Rainbow and Tandy 2000 come to mind as "most valuable" not-quite IBM compatibles, but there are dozens that would fit that category if you allow for those who did not have an 8088 (Tandy 2000 was an 80186 and the Rainbow also had a Z80 in addition to its 8088). They have to work or it'd be really hard to sell and ship. The jersey of the losing team goes on sale first, but there are always fans who stay loyal. Bill On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Herb Johnson via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
As vintage interest increases in the early IBM PC era computers, and in 386/486 PC's, I have a question. Is there any current interest in the early semi-compatible PC's?
I mean of course, the 8088/88 systems near and after the IBM PC of 1981, where a number of manufacturers made MS-DOS systems which had most of the IBM PC hardware, some PC functionality (or better!) but was not 100% hardware compatible.
It took some years for the "market" to decide, IBM PC software HAD to use every hardware trick to gain performance, and it could only do that if EVERY "PC" had the same IBM PC hardware. And, hardware HAD to be IBM PC and ISA compatible so it would run with minimal grief in PC's of the day, and their software. Eventually, the "Tiawan clones" came out, which were 100% PC compatible, and cheaper, and thus "PC compatible" became a redundant phrase.
I know there's some interest in say Compaqs, which at times led the way over IBM. But those were pretty compatible too.
But that leaves a bunch of S-100 systems, some Heath/Zenith systems, brands like Victor and God-knows how many others, who produced those semi-compatible systems, which were soon abandoned.
Now, S-100, I can deal with and those catch some people's interest. In fact there's a lot of 3rd party PC hardware for the Heath/zenith Z-100 (Z-120 series). But Zenith 150-series systems, with five boards in some super-ISA backplane? Forgedabotit.
I show some of the Zenith 151-s on my Web site, and of course Z-100's; so I get inquiries, like today, where someone has a Z-151 to offer. I tell them "sorry, no one cares". Comments?
Herb Johnson
-- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1982-Zenith-Data-Systems-Heath-Kit-Computer... Here's a Z120 that did pretty well. On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 6:13 PM, william degnan <billdegnan@gmail.com> wrote:
It's hard enough to see regular IBM PC/XT's for much, so yes I agree its at best a niche market. Plus they're likely heavy to ship. The DEC Rainbow and Tandy 2000 come to mind as "most valuable" not-quite IBM compatibles, but there are dozens that would fit that category if you allow for those who did not have an 8088 (Tandy 2000 was an 80186 and the Rainbow also had a Z80 in addition to its 8088). They have to work or it'd be really hard to sell and ship.
The jersey of the losing team goes on sale first, but there are always fans who stay loyal.
Bill
On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Herb Johnson via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
As vintage interest increases in the early IBM PC era computers, and in 386/486 PC's, I have a question. Is there any current interest in the early semi-compatible PC's?
I mean of course, the 8088/88 systems near and after the IBM PC of 1981, where a number of manufacturers made MS-DOS systems which had most of the IBM PC hardware, some PC functionality (or better!) but was not 100% hardware compatible.
It took some years for the "market" to decide, IBM PC software HAD to use every hardware trick to gain performance, and it could only do that if EVERY "PC" had the same IBM PC hardware. And, hardware HAD to be IBM PC and ISA compatible so it would run with minimal grief in PC's of the day, and their software. Eventually, the "Tiawan clones" came out, which were 100% PC compatible, and cheaper, and thus "PC compatible" became a redundant phrase.
I know there's some interest in say Compaqs, which at times led the way over IBM. But those were pretty compatible too.
But that leaves a bunch of S-100 systems, some Heath/Zenith systems, brands like Victor and God-knows how many others, who produced those semi-compatible systems, which were soon abandoned.
Now, S-100, I can deal with and those catch some people's interest. In fact there's a lot of 3rd party PC hardware for the Heath/zenith Z-100 (Z-120 series). But Zenith 150-series systems, with five boards in some super-ISA backplane? Forgedabotit.
I show some of the Zenith 151-s on my Web site, and of course Z-100's; so I get inquiries, like today, where someone has a Z-151 to offer. I tell them "sorry, no one cares". Comments?
Herb Johnson
-- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net
I've recently built a memory expansion board for Tandy 2000, disassembled and annotated the BIOS (https://www.retrotronics.org/svn/t2kbios/ [1]) and have near term plans for a compact-flash HD adapter. But the Tandy 2K is the only 'work-a-like' MS-DOS compatible system I have atm. -Alan On 2017-10-23 17:26, Herb Johnson via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
As vintage interest increases in the early IBM PC era computers, and in 386/486 PC's, I have a question. Is there any current interest in the early semi-compatible PC's?
I mean of course, the 8088/88 systems near and after the IBM PC of 1981, where a number of manufacturers made MS-DOS systems which had most of the IBM PC hardware, some PC functionality (or better!) but was not 100% hardware compatible.
It took some years for the "market" to decide, IBM PC software HAD to use every hardware trick to gain performance, and it could only do that if EVERY "PC" had the same IBM PC hardware. And, hardware HAD to be IBM PC and ISA compatible so it would run with minimal grief in PC's of the day, and their software. Eventually, the "Tiawan clones" came out, which were 100% PC compatible, and cheaper, and thus "PC compatible" became a redundant phrase.
I know there's some interest in say Compaqs, which at times led the way over IBM. But those were pretty compatible too.
But that leaves a bunch of S-100 systems, some Heath/Zenith systems, brands like Victor and God-knows how many others, who produced those semi-compatible systems, which were soon abandoned.
Now, S-100, I can deal with and those catch some people's interest. In fact there's a lot of 3rd party PC hardware for the Heath/zenith Z-100 (Z-120 series). But Zenith 150-series systems, with five boards in some super-ISA backplane? Forgedabotit.
I show some of the Zenith 151-s on my Web site, and of course Z-100's; so I get inquiries, like today, where someone has a Z-151 to offer. I tell them "sorry, no one cares". Comments?
Herb Johnson
Links: ------ [1] https://www.retrotronics.org/svn/t2kbios/
On 10/23/17 5:26 PM, Herb Johnson via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
As vintage interest increases in the early IBM PC era computers, and in 386/486 PC's, I have a question. Is there any current interest in the early semi-compatible PC's?
I mean of course, the 8088/88 systems near and after the IBM PC of 1981, where a number of manufacturers made MS-DOS systems which had most of the IBM PC hardware, some PC functionality (or better!) but was not 100% hardware compatible.
It took some years for the "market" to decide, IBM PC software HAD to use every hardware trick to gain performance, and it could only do that if EVERY "PC" had the same IBM PC hardware. And, hardware HAD to be IBM PC and ISA compatible so it would run with minimal grief in PC's of the day, and their software. Eventually, the "Tiawan clones" came out, which were 100% PC compatible, and cheaper, and thus "PC compatible" became a redundant phrase.
I know there's some interest in say Compaqs, which at times led the way over IBM. But those were pretty compatible too.
But that leaves a bunch of S-100 systems, some Heath/Zenith systems, brands like Victor and God-knows how many others, who produced those semi-compatible systems, which were soon abandoned.
Now, S-100, I can deal with and those catch some people's interest. In fact there's a lot of 3rd party PC hardware for the Heath/zenith Z-100 (Z-120 series). But Zenith 150-series systems, with five boards in some super-ISA backplane? Forgedabotit.
I show some of the Zenith 151-s on my Web site, and of course Z-100's; so I get inquiries, like today, where someone has a Z-151 to offer. I tell them "sorry, no one cares". Comments?
My first computer was a H-151. I soldered the boards myself so it had value to me. My wife doesn't understand why I don't send it to the recycling along with all the manuals and everything else I kept. I still have a collection of Heath/Zenith Club magazines somewhere. I use to love looking at all the modifications for it and the other H/Z computers. The backplane seemed like a genius idea at the time, but technology overtook it too rapidly and at least it died a quick death. :-) Mark
On 10/23/2017 07:41 PM, madodel via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
My first computer was a H-151. I soldered the boards myself so it had value to me. My wife doesn't understand why I don't send it to the recycling along with all the manuals and everything else I kept.
https://www.justia.com/lawyers/divorce/ https://www.weinbergerlawgroup.com/divorce/howto-begin/ -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
On 10/23/2017 04:53 PM, Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
On 10/23/2017 07:41 PM, madodel via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
My first computer was a H-151. I soldered the boards myself so it had value to me. My wife doesn't understand why I don't send it to the recycling along with all the manuals and everything else I kept. https://www.justia.com/lawyers/divorce/ https://www.weinbergerlawgroup.com/divorce/howto-begin/
-Dave
While this was my first thought, my second thought is that this is EXACTLY why you should have a will so that your spouse doesn't just dump your stuff in the trash. My wife has asked me several times to make a list with instructions so she knows what to do with my little collection. If you have a spouse that is unwilling and literally just sees a pile of garbage, make them legally responsible to dispose of it according to your wishes. We're meeting with attorney next week to put together a will, it's going to costs us a couple hundred bucks. No big deal, good protection. --Jason
On 10/23/2017 11:26 PM, Jason Howe via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
My first computer was a H-151. I soldered the boards myself so it had value to me. My wife doesn't understand why I don't send it to the recycling along with all the manuals and everything else I kept. https://www.justia.com/lawyers/divorce/ https://www.weinbergerlawgroup.com/divorce/howto-begin/
While this was my first thought, my second thought is that this is EXACTLY why you should have a will so that your spouse doesn't just dump your stuff in the trash.
My wife has asked me several times to make a list with instructions so she knows what to do with my little collection. If you have a spouse that is unwilling and literally just sees a pile of garbage, make them legally responsible to dispose of it according to your wishes.
If someone like us has a spouse like that (not referring to your wife here Jason, but the rest of the paragraph), then, respectfully, this is treating the symptom. The problem is a spouse that's simply incompatible at a very fundamental level. I've come across so many miserable people in that situation, and I just sit and wonder why. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
On 10/23/2017 09:55 PM, Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
If someone like us has a spouse like that (not referring to your wife here Jason, but the rest of the paragraph), then, respectfully, this is treating the symptom. The problem is a spouse that's simply incompatible at a very fundamental level. I've come across so many miserable people in that situation, and I just sit and wonder why.
-Dave
I completely agree and would never have married a woman who didn't respect my hobbies, as that would mean she didn't respect me. Seriously WTF would spend the rest of their life with that!? But, people do it all the time for whatever reason. Anyway, it's not for me to tell people how to live their lives -- I can only suggest how they can end it...erm...you know what I mean! --Jason
If you count the Sanyo MBC-550/555's as not-quite-PC compatibles, then I may have a video that fits that bill. Time Bandit is the only game I've ever seen mentioned for the MBC-555. It also is the only demonstration of the color modes I've witnessed. It's mighty impressive, if you ask me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN2wnCBQ1uo -Alexander 'Z' Pierson On Tuesday, October 24, 2017, 4:35:48 PM EDT, Jason Howe via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote: On 10/23/2017 09:55 PM, Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
If someone like us has a spouse like that (not referring to your wife here Jason, but the rest of the paragraph), then, respectfully, this is treating the symptom. The problem is a spouse that's simply incompatible at a very fundamental level. I've come across so many miserable people in that situation, and I just sit and wonder why.
-Dave
I completely agree and would never have married a woman who didn't respect my hobbies, as that would mean she didn't respect me. Seriously WTF would spend the rest of their life with that!? But, people do it all the time for whatever reason. Anyway, it's not for me to tell people how to live their lives -- I can only suggest how they can end it...erm...you know what I mean! --Jason
On Oct 23, 2017, at 5:26 PM, Herb Johnson via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
As vintage interest increases in the early IBM PC era computers, and in 386/486 PC's, I have a question. Is there any current interest in the early semi-compatible PC's?
I mean of course, the 8088/88 systems near and after the IBM PC of 1981, where a number of manufacturers made MS-DOS systems which had most of the IBM PC hardware, some PC functionality (or better!) but was not 100% hardware compatible.
Probably pushing your definition here, but... Veritas Technologies released a DPO (dual processor option) 8088 board for the TRS-80 Model II. It was a complete 8088 computer on a single board that used the Z80 portion of the Model II for I/O. It ran CP/M-86 according to reviews and was intended to run MS-DOS. But few if any of the boards made it into the marketplace before it was dropped. Apparently they could not get it to work with the Model 12 redesign. The MicroMerlin was an 8088 expansion device for the smaller TRS-80s which actually was a viable product for awhile. http://www.trs-80.org/micromerlin/
Thanks for the replies about Heath/Zenith computers. I like them too, search my Web domain. As I noted, it's a computer brand owned by many people, it has an interest outside IBM PC compatibles (test equipment, radios, computers before/during the IBM PC). So there's interest and knowledge, but prices are modest because of weight (shipping) and lack of rarity. I think $150 + $50 and up shipping for a Z-100 is exceptional. For some reason, estate planning came up in the thread. I suggest for further discussion or to reply to my comment, start a new thread. My comment is: it's not about spouses. The issue is the same with children and relatives who find themselves with collections they don't understand and/or are not interested in. That happens often enough. End of comment, reply in a new thread to that. Herb -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net
On 10/24/2017 12:00 PM, Herb Johnson via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
For some reason, estate planning came up in the thread. I suggest for further discussion or to reply to my comment, start a new thread. My comment is: it's not about spouses. The issue is the same with children and relatives who find themselves with collections they don't understand and/or are not interested in. That happens often enough. End of comment, reply in a new thread to that.
Yes, it would be good to discuss that. The topic was, however, actually about spouses. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
But that leaves a bunch of S-100 systems, some Heath/Zenith systems, brands like Victor and God-knows how many others, who produced those semi-compatible systems, which were soon abandoned. Now, S-100, I can deal with and those catch some people's interest. In fact there's a lot of 3rd party PC hardware for the Heath/zenith Z-100 (Z-120 series). But Zenith 150-series systems, with five boards in some super-ISA backplane? Forgedabotit. I show some of the Zenith 151-s on my Web site, and of course Z-100's; so I get inquiries, like today, where someone has a Z-151 to offer. I tell them "sorry, no one cares". Comments? Herb Johnson
It's all about the entertaining youtube videos to drive interest in specific systems I'd guess? The more exposure younger collectors get to the rare platforms that aren't documented well on the internet -- the more the interest will go up. I remember finding a Zenith something or other at a thrift store that was close to DOS compatible but not fully. Had it's own DOS fork and there was a program to let it run some dos apps (not games.) - Ethan
On 10/24/2017 11:45 AM, Ethan wrote:
It's all about the entertaining youtube videos to drive interest in specific systems I'd guess?
can you point me to an exciting YouTube video of a PC non-compatible? What is exciting about a box with a keyboard, and a CGA or VGA or EGA monitor? It may be technically interesting if it has advanced graphics or faster speed (Compaqs draw some interest). It might be visually interesting if the case styling is unique. Those provide "interesting" attributes, but videos are not needed for those. I admit I'm 20th century and I don't look for "videos" to whet my interests in vintage computing. So, "show me the money!" Herb "baud rate" Johnson -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net
can you point me to an exciting YouTube video of a PC non-compatible? What is exciting about a box with a keyboard, and a CGA or VGA or EGA monitor?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLnTAYMMLOc Only has 60K views versus the newer stuff which gets 250K+ quickly IIRC (LGR has a lot of good videos)
It may be technically interesting if it has advanced graphics or faster speed (Compaqs draw some interest). It might be visually interesting if the case styling is unique. Those provide "interesting" attributes, but videos are not needed for those.
I see the videos as the gateway that the newer crowd is finding out about the retro stuff. - Ethan
Herb, I have to agree. Booting DOS and watching Tandy, Wang, Zenith or HP appear in the copyrights is pretty much where the thrill ends. Unless, of course, you can find software ported to the platform and most of that is business-oriented. The fact that this hobby is less popular than baseball is probably not a big surprise. :-) In fact we may have taken up the hobby because we can't play baseball. Jim On Tue, 24 Oct 2017, Ethan via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 13:08:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Ethan via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> To: Herb Johnson via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> Cc: Ethan <telmnstr@757.org>, Herb Johnson <hjohnson@retrotechnology.info> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] IBM PC near-compatibles
can you point me to an exciting YouTube video of a PC non-compatible? What is exciting about a box with a keyboard, and a CGA or VGA or EGA monitor?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLnTAYMMLOc Only has 60K views versus the newer stuff which gets 250K+ quickly IIRC
(LGR has a lot of good videos)
It may be technically interesting if it has advanced graphics or faster speed (Compaqs draw some interest). It might be visually interesting if the case styling is unique. Those provide "interesting" attributes, but videos are not needed for those.
I see the videos as the gateway that the newer crowd is finding out about the retro stuff.
- Ethan
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On 10/24/2017 01:25 PM, Jim Scheef via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
In fact we may have taken up the hobby because we can't play baseball.
Speak for yourself, Jim. I outgrew chasing a ball around by the time I was about five. I have a hard time imagining anything more pointless. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
On 10/24/2017 1:08 PM, Ethan wrote:
can you point me to an exciting YouTube video of a PC non-compatible? What is exciting about a box with a keyboard, and a CGA or VGA or EGA monitor?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLnTAYMMLOc Only has 60K views versus the newer stuff which gets 250K+ quickly IIRC
This video, is about a Kaypro and Osborne "find" on Craigslist. Yeah, it's a video about "boxes", stuff in boxes actually. Those are familiar-enough computers. Getting one, has some interest, or is at least familiar. But that was not really my question. If I stated it poorly, my apologies. My question was "...of a PC near-compatible", not just any vintage computer. As I said, and you quoted:
It may be technically interesting if it has advanced graphics or faster speed (Compaqs draw some interest). It might be visually interesting if the case styling is unique. Those provide "interesting" attributes, but videos are not needed for those.
You may be missing my point. Maybe you don't know what I mean by "near compatible PC" or what that means. As I previously said - these are NON-distinctive old kinda-PC's. So they are like all the other old PC's - all boxes with ISA slots (maybe), that ran MS-DOS 2 or 3 or whatever. So that makes them "undistinctive" "clones", and therefore boring. But it gets worse. They are NOT clones, they did NOT quite run the same way, or support the same software or hardware. In a way, they are losers TWICE. ONCE, they got beat by the Tiawan PC clones, and better systems from IBM (and Compaq and a few other better-known brands). And they got beat AGAIN, because they just didn't run every vintage thing you MIGHT want to run TODAY; like memory upgrades, games, commercial software, etc. It's like a broken clock - which is right twice a day, but useless as a timepiece. It's only interesting if the broken clock has a brand, or style, or history that makes it interesting. What makes THESE interesting? And how does a video "show" that, over some photo and some text? YOu said:
I see the videos as the gateway that the newer crowd is finding out about the retro stuff. - Ethan
That may be true, in general. Videos are popular. I get that. But in particular - given what I just said, about all the things these near-compatible PC's are NOT - what's left of interest, to make a video about one of THESE worth watching? Or worth creating? Herb Johnson retrotechnology.com -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net preserve, recover, restore 1970's computing email: hjohnson AT retrotechnology DOT com or try later herbjohnson AT retrotechnology DOT info
Part of my issue with Tandy 2000 is there isn't a critical mass yet of other owners and interested parties to drive further development. The only reason I recently pulled mine off the shelf was the Tandy Assembly show. Until there is a moment that causes 3 or more people to pull their Tandy 2000s off the shelf too and start exchanging email or forum posts, there is not much motivation for any one person to yell into an echo chamber. I can't name more than 3 Tandy 2000 owners - and none that I am personally in contact with. It takes a village. -Alan On 2017-10-24 11:45, Ethan via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
It's all about the entertaining youtube videos to drive interest in specific systems I'd guess? The more exposure younger collectors get to the rare platforms that aren't documented well on the internet -- the more the interest will go up.
I can't name more than 3 Tandy 2000 owners - and none that I am
personally in contact with. It takes a village.
-Alan
Alan I have 4 or 5 Tandy 2000's. One of the HD units has the special version of WordPerfect on it. The biggest problem with the 2000's is trying to find compatible monitors. If anyone else on the list wants a T2K contact me off list and we can try to come to an arrangement. I don't need 4. Kelly
I have one Tandy 2000 HD, the big tower model, with monitor, although that and the rest of my collection will soon be all auctioned off. Needless to say, it's impressive hardware for the time and still an imposing presence. -Bill ======================================================== Bill Loguidice, Managing Director; Armchair Arcade, Inc. <http://www.armchairarcade.com> ======================================================== Authored Books <http://www.amazon.com/Bill-Loguidice/e/B001U7W3YS/ref=ntt_dp_epwbk_1> and Film <http://www.armchairarcade.com/film>; About me and other ways to get in touch <http://about.me/billloguidice> ======================================================== On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Kelly Leavitt via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
I can't name more than 3 Tandy 2000 owners - and none that I am
personally in contact with. It takes a village.
-Alan
Alan
I have 4 or 5 Tandy 2000's. One of the HD units has the special version of WordPerfect on it. The biggest problem with the 2000's is trying to find compatible monitors. If anyone else on the list wants a T2K contact me off list and we can try to come to an arrangement. I don't need 4.
Kelly
I am a former Tandy 2000 owner, if that counts for anything. :-) On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 4:03 PM Bill Loguidice via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
I have one Tandy 2000 HD, the big tower model, with monitor, although that and the rest of my collection will soon be all auctioned off. Needless to say, it's impressive hardware for the time and still an imposing presence.
-Bill
======================================================== Bill Loguidice, Managing Director; Armchair Arcade, Inc. <http://www.armchairarcade.com> ======================================================== Authored Books <http://www.amazon.com/Bill-Loguidice/e/B001U7W3YS/ref=ntt_dp_epwbk_1> and Film <http://www.armchairarcade.com/film>; About me and other ways to get in touch <http://about.me/billloguidice> ========================================================
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Kelly Leavitt via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
I can't name more than 3 Tandy 2000 owners - and none that I am
personally in contact with. It takes a village.
-Alan
Alan
I have 4 or 5 Tandy 2000's. One of the HD units has the special version of WordPerfect on it. The biggest problem with the 2000's is trying to find compatible monitors. If anyone else on the list wants a T2K contact me off list and we can try to come to an arrangement. I don't need 4.
Kelly
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