Your First Modem? (was: Help me remember my first modem)
What was your first modem? Mine was a kit from Micromint in Long Island. It was around 1980 or so (I was about 13). My dad drove me to Cedarhurst, LI (I lived in Merrick, LI) to the Micromint sales office and bought this kit. It was an acoustic coupler, 300 baud kit, with an enclosure, a PCB and a bag of parts. I had low expectations that it would work when assembled. I spent a few days assembling and soldering everything. I think the time was around Christmas and my new brother-in-law was over. He was a post-grad at university of Texas at Austin and had a computer account (don't recall the computer). It was time to test it. Me, my brother-in-law and my father were all standing around my TRS-80 Model III and this newly built modem, trying to call into the computer system at UT Austin. In those days, long distance calls were expensive. We must have dialed that computer 20 times while attempting to adjust the pots and make it work, unsure if it would ever work. I can't imagine what the bill was. I was adjusting one of the pots and then, like a miracle, there it was "WELCOME TO THE UT AUSTIN COMPUTING CENTER" I can't swear that is exactly what it said but you get the idea. We all jumped for joy. The darn thing worked as advertised. Great experience and that modem served me well for several years until I upgraded to a Micromint 1200 baud "direct connect" modem before I went to college. 73 Eugene W2HX Subscribe to my Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/w2hx-channel/videos -----Original Message----- From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org> On Behalf Of Neil Cherry via vcf-midatlantic Sent: Friday, December 24, 2021 10:29 PM To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Cc: Neil Cherry <ncherry@linuxha.com> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Help me remember my first modem On 12/24/21 9:22 PM, John Heritage via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I'm trying to find a picture of my first modem online, and can't seem to find one..
I remember my first modem (I was ~ 7 years old or ~ 1983-1984 when we first got it, but had it for years later) being a 300 baud "Bell" modem. I *believe* it had an acoustic coupler, but it *might but I do not remember needing to use it to initiate connections to BBSes at the time. I'm not sure if there were hybrid modems where they still had an acoustic coupler, but also supported auto dial of some kind.
My memory also tells me it was a black modem, rectangular (metal?) exterior. I think the modem might have said "Bell Labs" rather than just Bell on the front. I'm also 95% sure that the modem .. disappeared .. from Bell thanks to a family member who worked there/at AT&T (and also was an Atari 800 owner like us). We attached this modem (and later modems) to an Atari 850 interface, so it had a standard serial interface.
Lastly, I'm certain it was *not* a Bell 103 modem - which would have been positively ancient by the early 80s, but some other design from Bell. Or at least not an original appearance one..
I recall the Bell 300 modem (non-acoustic coupled). It had a AT&T Bell logo on the front. So either Commsphere or Dataphone, probably Dataphone. I think it had 103 on the front. Black plastic front, rest of it was metal and an external 48v DC power brick, 2 screws on the brick. I can't recall if the modem had screws or was hard wired. I do recall a DB25, male I think. -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
On 12/28/21 11:28 AM, W2HX via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
What was your first modem? Mine was a kit from Micromint in Long Island. It was around 1980 or so (I was about 13). My dad drove me to Cedarhurst, LI (I lived in Merrick, LI) to the Micromint sales office and bought this kit. It was an acoustic coupler, 300 baud kit, with an enclosure, a PCB and a bag of parts. I had low expectations that it would work when assembled. I spent a few days assembling and soldering everything. I think the time was around Christmas and my new brother-in-law was over. He was a post-grad at university of Texas at Austin and had a computer account (don't recall the computer). It was time to test it. Me, my brother-in-law and my father were all standing around my TRS-80 Model III and this newly built modem, trying to call into the computer system at UT Austin. In those days, long distance calls were expensive. We must have dialed that computer 20 times while attempting to adjust the pots and make it work, unsure if it would ever work. I can't imagine what the bill was.
I was adjusting one of the pots and then, like a miracle, there it was "WELCOME TO THE UT AUSTIN COMPUTING CENTER" I can't swear that is exactly what it said but you get the idea. We all jumped for joy. The darn thing worked as advertised. Great experience and that modem served me well for several years until I upgraded to a Micromint 1200 baud "direct connect" modem before I went to college.
Very cool indeed! Mine was a Livermore Data Systems model 71B 300-baud acoustic coupler. Man did I run up some phone bills with that. I still have it. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
On Tue, 28 Dec 2021, Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
What was your first modem? Mine was a kit from Micromint in Long Island. It was around 1980 or so (I was about 13). My dad drove me to Cedarhurst, LI (I lived in Merrick, LI) to the Micromint sales office and bought this kit. It was an acoustic coupler, 300 baud kit, with an enclosure, a PCB and a bag of parts.
Very cool indeed!
Mine was a Livermore Data Systems model 71B 300-baud acoustic coupler. Man did I run up some phone bills with that. I still have it.
Mine was a 300 baud Novation J-Cat in 1983, connected to my TRS-80 Model III. Direct connect, and I wrote a simple BASIC program to dial out by pulsing the hook relay. http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/Modems/Jcat.html Dave, I have a Livermore 76B: http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/Modems/Livermore.html From a 1979 issue of Datamation: LIVERMORE DATA SYSTEMS76B Bell 103/113A-compatible originate-only type Up to 450 bps using FSK modulation Asynchronous, half/full-duplex operation Acoustic with RS232B/C interface Features alternate voice-data Over 4,000 sold since 1975 $300 Mike Loewen mloewen@cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/
On 12/28/21 4:42 PM, Mike Loewen via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Mine was a Livermore Data Systems model 71B 300-baud acoustic coupler. Man did I run up some phone bills with that. I still have it.
Mine was a 300 baud Novation J-Cat in 1983, connected to my TRS-80 Model III. Direct connect, and I wrote a simple BASIC program to dial out by pulsing the hook relay.
Wow, nice, I remember those from ads.
Dave, I have a Livermore 76B:
http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/Modems/Livermore.html
From a 1979 issue of Datamation:
LIVERMORE DATA SYSTEMS76B Bell 103/113A-compatible originate-only type Up to 450 bps using FSK modulation Asynchronous, half/full-duplex operation Acoustic with RS232B/C interface Features alternate voice-data Over 4,000 sold since 1975 $300
Nice! My 71B is very nearly identical to that, except the left switch on the rear has three positions, instead of two. I don't recall what the other position is offhand. In mine, the two lamps on the front were those cylindrical aluminum incandescent cartridge bulbs, both of which were burnt out. I couldn't get replacements at the time (I was ~13) so I replaced both of the bulbs and their sockets with LEDs, padded with some hot glue around them. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
On Tue, 28 Dec 2021, Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
On 12/28/21 4:42 PM, Mike Loewen via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Wow, nice, I remember those from ads.
Dave, I have a Livermore 76B:
Nice! My 71B is very nearly identical to that, except the left switch on the rear has three positions, instead of two. I don't recall what the other position is offhand.
In mine, the two lamps on the front were those cylindrical aluminum incandescent cartridge bulbs, both of which were burnt out. I couldn't get replacements at the time (I was ~13) so I replaced both of the bulbs and their sockets with LEDs, padded with some hot glue around them.
Maybe the lamps on mine are just burned out. I'll have to check. Mike Loewen mloewen@cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/
On 12/28/21 8:40 PM, Mike Loewen via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Dave, I have a Livermore 76B:
Nice! My 71B is very nearly identical to that, except the left switch on the rear has three positions, instead of two. I don't recall what the other position is offhand.
In mine, the two lamps on the front were those cylindrical aluminum incandescent cartridge bulbs, both of which were burnt out. I couldn't get replacements at the time (I was ~13) so I replaced both of the bulbs and their sockets with LEDs, padded with some hot glue around them.
Maybe the lamps on mine are just burned out. I'll have to check.
I'd say it's likely. I've seen no docs for these, not even on Bitsavers. It'd be nice to know the specs for those lamps. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
Speaking of running up phone bills, does anyone remember PC Pursuit? I used to use that to get around long distance and dial around the country. Worked good in the 300/1200 baud days, but fell down as speeds went up. Brad Kuhl -BradEK@GMail.com -Brad@Kuhls.us
On Dec 28, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
On 12/28/21 11:28 AM, W2HX via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
What was your first modem? Mine was a kit from Micromint in Long Island. It was around 1980 or so (I was about 13). My dad drove me to Cedarhurst, LI (I lived in Merrick, LI) to the Micromint sales office and bought this kit. It was an acoustic coupler, 300 baud kit, with an enclosure, a PCB and a bag of parts. I had low expectations that it would work when assembled. I spent a few days assembling and soldering everything. I think the time was around Christmas and my new brother-in-law was over. He was a post-grad at university of Texas at Austin and had a computer account (don't recall the computer). It was time to test it. Me, my brother-in-law and my father were all standing around my TRS-80 Model III and this newly built modem, trying to call into the computer system at UT Austin. In those days, long distance calls were expensive. We must have dialed that computer 20 times while attempting to adjust the pots and make it work, unsure if it would ever work. I can't imagine what the bill was. I was adjusting one of the pots and then, like a miracle, there it was "WELCOME TO THE UT AUSTIN COMPUTING CENTER" I can't swear that is exactly what it said but you get the idea. We all jumped for joy. The darn thing worked as advertised. Great experience and that modem served me well for several years until I upgraded to a Micromint 1200 baud "direct connect" modem before I went to college.
Very cool indeed!
Mine was a Livermore Data Systems model 71B 300-baud acoustic coupler. Man did I run up some phone bills with that. I still have it.
-Dave
-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
On Tue, 28 Dec 2021, Brad Kuhl via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Speaking of running up phone bills, does anyone remember PC Pursuit? I used to use that to get around long distance and dial around the country. Worked good in the 300/1200 baud days, but fell down as speeds went up.
Brad Kuhl -BradEK@GMail.com -Brad@Kuhls.us
I was a big PC Pursuit user in the mid and late '80s. After I moved from Tacoma to Gaithersburg, my fellow sysop on our Micro Magic BBS in Sumner set up a cron job on the Tandy 6000 to call my modem in MD through PCP, so I could log in. Eventually, his BBS number exchange was added to the PCP dialout range. I also discovered a bug in PCP, where typing a LF instead of a CRLF resulted in the next person dialing your exchange would be connected to your system instead of the BBS they were trying to dial. I had a few conversations with distant users doing this, before PCP fixed the bug. :-) Mike Loewen mloewen@cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/
Here: https://vintageapple.org/byte/pdf/197804_Byte_Magazine_Vol_03-04_The_TDL_Sys... Magazine page 195 (pdf page 197), Electronic Systems, Burlingame, CA. Lower right corner of ad. I soldered it into the main board of my OSI Superboard. Bill S. -----Original Message----- From: vcf-midatlantic [mailto:vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org] On Behalf Of W2HX via vcf-midatlantic Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 11:29 AM To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Cc: W2HX <w2hx@w2hx.com> Subject: [vcf-midatlantic] Your First Modem? (was: Help me remember my first modem) What was your first modem? Mine was a kit from Micromint in Long Island. It was around 1980 or so (I was about 13). My dad drove me to Cedarhurst, LI (I lived in Merrick, LI) to the Micromint sales office and bought this kit. It was an acoustic coupler, 300 baud kit, with an enclosure, a PCB and a bag of parts. I had low expectations that it would work when assembled. I spent a few days assembling and soldering everything. I think the time was around Christmas and my new brother-in-law was over. He was a post-grad at university of Texas at Austin and had a computer account (don't recall the computer). It was time to test it. Me, my brother-in-law and my father were all standing around my TRS-80 Model III and this newly built modem, trying to call into the computer system at UT Austin. In those days, long distance calls were expensive. We must have dialed that computer 20 times while attempting to adjust the pots and make it work, unsure if it would ever work. I can't imagine what the bill was. I was adjusting one of the pots and then, like a miracle, there it was "WELCOME TO THE UT AUSTIN COMPUTING CENTER" I can't swear that is exactly what it said but you get the idea. We all jumped for joy. The darn thing worked as advertised. Great experience and that modem served me well for several years until I upgraded to a Micromint 1200 baud "direct connect" modem before I went to college. 73 Eugene W2HX Subscribe to my Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/w2hx-channel/videos -----Original Message----- From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org> On Behalf Of Neil Cherry via vcf-midatlantic Sent: Friday, December 24, 2021 10:29 PM To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Cc: Neil Cherry <ncherry@linuxha.com> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Help me remember my first modem On 12/24/21 9:22 PM, John Heritage via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I'm trying to find a picture of my first modem online, and can't seem to find one..
I remember my first modem (I was ~ 7 years old or ~ 1983-1984 when we first got it, but had it for years later) being a 300 baud "Bell" modem. I *believe* it had an acoustic coupler, but it *might but I do not remember needing to use it to initiate connections to BBSes at the time. I'm not sure if there were hybrid modems where they still had an acoustic coupler, but also supported auto dial of some kind.
My memory also tells me it was a black modem, rectangular (metal?) exterior. I think the modem might have said "Bell Labs" rather than just Bell on the front. I'm also 95% sure that the modem .. disappeared .. from Bell thanks to a family member who worked there/at AT&T (and also was an Atari 800 owner like us). We attached this modem (and later modems) to an Atari 850 interface, so it had a standard serial interface.
Lastly, I'm certain it was *not* a Bell 103 modem - which would have been positively ancient by the early 80s, but some other design from Bell. Or at least not an original appearance one..
I recall the Bell 300 modem (non-acoustic coupled). It had a AT&T Bell logo on the front. So either Commsphere or Dataphone, probably Dataphone. I think it had 103 on the front. Black plastic front, rest of it was metal and an external 48v DC power brick, 2 screws on the brick. I can't recall if the modem had screws or was hard wired. I do recall a DB25, male I think. -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
I should add that, that is the modem described here: http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2018-March/031319.html Bill S. -----Original Message----- From: William Sudbrink [mailto:wh.sudbrink@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 4:58 PM To: 'vcf-midatlantic' <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Cc: 'W2HX' <w2hx@w2hx.com> Subject: RE: [vcf-midatlantic] Your First Modem? (was: Help me remember my first modem) Here: https://vintageapple.org/byte/pdf/197804_Byte_Magazine_Vol_03-04_The_TDL_Sys... Magazine page 195 (pdf page 197), Electronic Systems, Burlingame, CA. Lower right corner of ad. I soldered it into the main board of my OSI Superboard. Bill S. -----Original Message----- From: vcf-midatlantic [mailto:vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org] On Behalf Of W2HX via vcf-midatlantic Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 11:29 AM To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Cc: W2HX <w2hx@w2hx.com> Subject: [vcf-midatlantic] Your First Modem? (was: Help me remember my first modem) What was your first modem? Mine was a kit from Micromint in Long Island. It was around 1980 or so (I was about 13). My dad drove me to Cedarhurst, LI (I lived in Merrick, LI) to the Micromint sales office and bought this kit. It was an acoustic coupler, 300 baud kit, with an enclosure, a PCB and a bag of parts. I had low expectations that it would work when assembled. I spent a few days assembling and soldering everything. I think the time was around Christmas and my new brother-in-law was over. He was a post-grad at university of Texas at Austin and had a computer account (don't recall the computer). It was time to test it. Me, my brother-in-law and my father were all standing around my TRS-80 Model III and this newly built modem, trying to call into the computer system at UT Austin. In those days, long distance calls were expensive. We must have dialed that computer 20 times while attempting to adjust the pots and make it work, unsure if it would ever work. I can't imagine what the bill was. I was adjusting one of the pots and then, like a miracle, there it was "WELCOME TO THE UT AUSTIN COMPUTING CENTER" I can't swear that is exactly what it said but you get the idea. We all jumped for joy. The darn thing worked as advertised. Great experience and that modem served me well for several years until I upgraded to a Micromint 1200 baud "direct connect" modem before I went to college. 73 Eugene W2HX Subscribe to my Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/w2hx-channel/videos -----Original Message----- From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org> On Behalf Of Neil Cherry via vcf-midatlantic Sent: Friday, December 24, 2021 10:29 PM To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Cc: Neil Cherry <ncherry@linuxha.com> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Help me remember my first modem On 12/24/21 9:22 PM, John Heritage via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I'm trying to find a picture of my first modem online, and can't seem to find one..
I remember my first modem (I was ~ 7 years old or ~ 1983-1984 when we first got it, but had it for years later) being a 300 baud "Bell" modem. I *believe* it had an acoustic coupler, but it *might but I do not remember needing to use it to initiate connections to BBSes at the time. I'm not sure if there were hybrid modems where they still had an acoustic coupler, but also supported auto dial of some kind.
My memory also tells me it was a black modem, rectangular (metal?) exterior. I think the modem might have said "Bell Labs" rather than just Bell on the front. I'm also 95% sure that the modem .. disappeared .. from Bell thanks to a family member who worked there/at AT&T (and also was an Atari 800 owner like us). We attached this modem (and later modems) to an Atari 850 interface, so it had a standard serial interface.
Lastly, I'm certain it was *not* a Bell 103 modem - which would have been positively ancient by the early 80s, but some other design from Bell. Or at least not an original appearance one..
I recall the Bell 300 modem (non-acoustic coupled). It had a AT&T Bell logo on the front. So either Commsphere or Dataphone, probably Dataphone. I think it had 103 on the front. Black plastic front, rest of it was metal and an external 48v DC power brick, 2 screws on the brick. I can't recall if the modem had screws or was hard wired. I do recall a DB25, male I think. -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 11:30 AM W2HX via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
What was your first modem?
VICmodem on a Commodore 64. The free terminal program was so crappy I wrote my own (at 16). I think I posted it somewhere because about a year later, I got tapped to beta test the Commodore 64 Vidtex client (mixed text and chunky graphics) for CompuServe. I didn't upgrade to 1200 baud until I was in college and working for Software Results. -ethan
On 12/28/21 11:28 AM, W2HX via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
What was your first modem? Mine was a kit from Micromint in Long Island. Very cool.
My first was a crappy 300 baud Atari 835, worked for about a month. Then I found out that the the CPU crapped out (8048, with 1K firmware burned in). So a few months later I started working for Microcomm (not the modem maker) and they had 2 Cermetek 300/1200 dev board modems. They work great. :-) I got to dial into all sorts of BBS. I even got dial into the Soup Kitchen (Rutgers) and t he USENET before the great renaming. Then a bit later Archie, Veronica, and Jugghead. The research project I found and learned about showed the promise of the Internet before Greencard SPAM. -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
Multitech Multimodem 224E on Tandy 1000sx. I'm not sure if finding BBS systems helped me in life or hurt me tho :-) Still good friends with people I met on those things 30+ years ago. - Ethan On Tue, 28 Dec 2021, W2HX via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
What was your first modem? Mine was a kit from Micromint in Long Island. It was around 1980 or so (I was about 13). My dad drove me to Cedarhurst, LI (I lived in Merrick, LI) to the Micromint sales office and bought this kit. It was an acoustic coupler, 300 baud kit, with an enclosure, a PCB and a bag of parts. I had low expectations that it would work when assembled. I spent a few days assembling and soldering everything. I think the time was around Christmas and my new brother-in-law was over. He was a post-grad at university of Texas at Austin and had a computer account (don't recall the computer). It was time to test it. Me, my brother-in-law and my father were all standing around my TRS-80 Model III and this newly built modem, trying to call into the computer system at UT Austin. In those days, long distance calls were expensive. We must have dialed that computer 20 times while attempting to adjust the pots and make it work, unsure if it would ever work. I can't imagine what t he bill was.
I was adjusting one of the pots and then, like a miracle, there it was "WELCOME TO THE UT AUSTIN COMPUTING CENTER" I can't swear that is exactly what it said but you get the idea. We all jumped for joy. The darn thing worked as advertised. Great experience and that modem served me well for several years until I upgraded to a Micromint 1200 baud "direct connect" modem before I went to college.
73 Eugene W2HX Subscribe to my Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/w2hx-channel/videos
-----Original Message----- From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org> On Behalf Of Neil Cherry via vcf-midatlantic Sent: Friday, December 24, 2021 10:29 PM To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Cc: Neil Cherry <ncherry@linuxha.com> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Help me remember my first modem
On 12/24/21 9:22 PM, John Heritage via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I'm trying to find a picture of my first modem online, and can't seem to find one..
I remember my first modem (I was ~ 7 years old or ~ 1983-1984 when we first got it, but had it for years later) being a 300 baud "Bell" modem. I *believe* it had an acoustic coupler, but it *might but I do not remember needing to use it to initiate connections to BBSes at the time. I'm not sure if there were hybrid modems where they still had an acoustic coupler, but also supported auto dial of some kind.
My memory also tells me it was a black modem, rectangular (metal?) exterior. I think the modem might have said "Bell Labs" rather than just Bell on the front. I'm also 95% sure that the modem .. disappeared .. from Bell thanks to a family member who worked there/at AT&T (and also was an Atari 800 owner like us). We attached this modem (and later modems) to an Atari 850 interface, so it had a standard serial interface.
Lastly, I'm certain it was *not* a Bell 103 modem - which would have been positively ancient by the early 80s, but some other design from Bell. Or at least not an original appearance one..
I recall the Bell 300 modem (non-acoustic coupled). It had a AT&T Bell logo on the front. So either Commsphere or Dataphone, probably Dataphone. I think it had 103 on the front. Black plastic front, rest of it was metal and an external 48v DC power brick, 2 screws on the brick. I can't recall if the modem had screws or was hard wired. I do recall a DB25, male I think.
-- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
With my own money a Courier 33.6 On Tue, Dec 28, 2021, 10:05 PM Ethan O'Toole via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Multitech Multimodem 224E on Tandy 1000sx.
I'm not sure if finding BBS systems helped me in life or hurt me tho :-)
Still good friends with people I met on those things 30+ years ago.
- Ethan
On Tue, 28 Dec 2021, W2HX via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
What was your first modem? Mine was a kit from Micromint in Long Island. It was around 1980 or so (I was about 13). My dad drove me to Cedarhurst, LI (I lived in Merrick, LI) to the Micromint sales office and bought this kit. It was an acoustic coupler, 300 baud kit, with an enclosure, a PCB and a bag of parts. I had low expectations that it would work when assembled. I spent a few days assembling and soldering everything. I think the time was around Christmas and my new brother-in-law was over. He was a post-grad at university of Texas at Austin and had a computer account (don't recall the computer). It was time to test it. Me, my brother-in-law and my father were all standing around my TRS-80 Model III and this newly built modem, trying to call into the computer system at UT Austin. In those days, long distance calls were expensive. We must have dialed that computer 20 times while attempting to adjust the pots and make it work, unsure if it would ever work. I can't imagine what t he bill was.
I was adjusting one of the pots and then, like a miracle, there it was "WELCOME TO THE UT AUSTIN COMPUTING CENTER" I can't swear that is exactly what it said but you get the idea. We all jumped for joy. The darn thing worked as advertised. Great experience and that modem served me well for several years until I upgraded to a Micromint 1200 baud "direct connect" modem before I went to college.
73 Eugene W2HX Subscribe to my Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/w2hx-channel/videos
-----Original Message----- From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org> On Behalf Of Neil Cherry via vcf-midatlantic Sent: Friday, December 24, 2021 10:29 PM To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Cc: Neil Cherry <ncherry@linuxha.com> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Help me remember my first modem
On 12/24/21 9:22 PM, John Heritage via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I'm trying to find a picture of my first modem online, and can't seem to find one..
I remember my first modem (I was ~ 7 years old or ~ 1983-1984 when we first got it, but had it for years later) being a 300 baud "Bell" modem. I *believe* it had an acoustic coupler, but it *might but I do not remember needing to use it to initiate connections to BBSes at the time. I'm not sure if there were hybrid modems where they still had an acoustic coupler, but also supported auto dial of some kind.
My memory also tells me it was a black modem, rectangular (metal?) exterior. I think the modem might have said "Bell Labs" rather than just Bell on the front. I'm also 95% sure that the modem .. disappeared .. from Bell thanks to a family member who worked there/at AT&T (and also was an Atari 800 owner like us). We attached this modem (and later modems) to an Atari 850 interface, so it had a standard serial interface.
Lastly, I'm certain it was *not* a Bell 103 modem - which would have been positively ancient by the early 80s, but some other design from Bell. Or at least not an original appearance one..
I recall the Bell 300 modem (non-acoustic coupled). It had a AT&T Bell logo on the front. So either Commsphere or Dataphone, probably Dataphone. I think it had 103 on the front. Black plastic front, rest of it was metal and an external 48v DC power brick, 2 screws on the brick. I can't recall if the modem had screws or was hard wired. I do recall a DB25, male I think.
-- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
Ok you started with a Cadillac modem then :) On Tue, Dec 28, 2021, 11:07 PM Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
With my own money a Courier 33.6
On Tue, Dec 28, 2021, 10:05 PM Ethan O'Toole via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Multitech Multimodem 224E on Tandy 1000sx.
I'm not sure if finding BBS systems helped me in life or hurt me tho :-)
Still good friends with people I met on those things 30+ years ago.
- Ethan
On Tue, 28 Dec 2021, W2HX via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
What was your first modem? Mine was a kit from Micromint in Long
Island.
It was around 1980 or so (I was about 13). My dad drove me to Cedarhurst, LI (I lived in Merrick, LI) to the Micromint sales office and bought this kit. It was an acoustic coupler, 300 baud kit, with an enclosure, a PCB and a bag of parts. I had low expectations that it would work when assembled. I spent a few days assembling and soldering everything. I think the time was around Christmas and my new brother-in-law was over. He was a post-grad at university of Texas at Austin and had a computer account (don't recall the computer). It was time to test it. Me, my brother-in-law and my father were all standing around my TRS-80 Model III and this newly built modem, trying to call into the computer system at UT Austin. In those days, long distance calls were expensive. We must have dialed that computer 20 times while attempting to adjust the pots and make it work, unsure if it would ever work. I can't imagine what t he bill was.
I was adjusting one of the pots and then, like a miracle, there it was
"WELCOME TO THE UT AUSTIN COMPUTING CENTER" I can't swear that is exactly what it said but you get the idea. We all jumped for joy. The darn thing worked as advertised. Great experience and that modem served me well for several years until I upgraded to a Micromint 1200 baud "direct connect" modem before I went to college.
73 Eugene W2HX Subscribe to my Youtube Channel:
https://www.youtube.com/c/w2hx-channel/videos
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Sent: Friday, December 24, 2021 10:29 PM To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Cc: Neil Cherry <ncherry@linuxha.com> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Help me remember my first modem
On 12/24/21 9:22 PM, John Heritage via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I'm trying to find a picture of my first modem online, and can't seem to find one..
I remember my first modem (I was ~ 7 years old or ~ 1983-1984 when we first got it, but had it for years later) being a 300 baud "Bell" modem. I *believe* it had an acoustic coupler, but it *might but I do not remember needing to use it to initiate connections to BBSes at the time. I'm not sure if there were hybrid modems where they still had an acoustic coupler, but also supported auto dial of some kind.
My memory also tells me it was a black modem, rectangular (metal?) exterior. I think the modem might have said "Bell Labs" rather than just Bell on the front. I'm also 95% sure that the modem .. disappeared .. from Bell thanks to a family member who worked there/at AT&T (and also was an Atari 800 owner like us). We attached this modem (and later modems) to an Atari 850 interface, so it had a standard serial interface.
Lastly, I'm certain it was *not* a Bell 103 modem - which would have been positively ancient by the early 80s, but some other design from Bell. Or at least not an original appearance one..
I recall the Bell 300 modem (non-acoustic coupled). It had a AT&T Bell logo on the front. So either Commsphere or Dataphone, probably Dataphone. I think it had 103 on the front. Black plastic front, rest of it was metal and an external 48v DC power brick, 2 screws on the brick. I can't recall if the modem had screws or was hard wired. I do recall a DB25, male I think.
-- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
I had a Practical Peripherals 1200 baud ISA modem in my DeskPro/386 and a Modem 1200 on my Fat Mac. That was 1985. The Mac Modem cost $495 if I remember correctly. http://cini.classiccmp.org/ Long Island S100 User’s Group Get Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS ________________________________ From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org> on behalf of John Heritage via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 9:05:04 AM To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Cc: John Heritage <john.heritage@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Your First Modem? (was: Help me remember my first modem) Ok you started with a Cadillac modem then :) On Tue, Dec 28, 2021, 11:07 PM Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
With my own money a Courier 33.6
On Tue, Dec 28, 2021, 10:05 PM Ethan O'Toole via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Multitech Multimodem 224E on Tandy 1000sx.
I'm not sure if finding BBS systems helped me in life or hurt me tho :-)
Still good friends with people I met on those things 30+ years ago.
- Ethan
On Tue, 28 Dec 2021, W2HX via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
What was your first modem? Mine was a kit from Micromint in Long
Island.
It was around 1980 or so (I was about 13). My dad drove me to Cedarhurst, LI (I lived in Merrick, LI) to the Micromint sales office and bought this kit. It was an acoustic coupler, 300 baud kit, with an enclosure, a PCB and a bag of parts. I had low expectations that it would work when assembled. I spent a few days assembling and soldering everything. I think the time was around Christmas and my new brother-in-law was over. He was a post-grad at university of Texas at Austin and had a computer account (don't recall the computer). It was time to test it. Me, my brother-in-law and my father were all standing around my TRS-80 Model III and this newly built modem, trying to call into the computer system at UT Austin. In those days, long distance calls were expensive. We must have dialed that computer 20 times while attempting to adjust the pots and make it work, unsure if it would ever work. I can't imagine what t he bill was.
I was adjusting one of the pots and then, like a miracle, there it was
"WELCOME TO THE UT AUSTIN COMPUTING CENTER" I can't swear that is exactly what it said but you get the idea. We all jumped for joy. The darn thing worked as advertised. Great experience and that modem served me well for several years until I upgraded to a Micromint 1200 baud "direct connect" modem before I went to college.
73 Eugene W2HX Subscribe to my Youtube Channel:
https://www.youtube.com/c/w2hx-channel/videos
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Behalf Of Neil Cherry via vcf-midatlantic
Sent: Friday, December 24, 2021 10:29 PM To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Cc: Neil Cherry <ncherry@linuxha.com> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Help me remember my first modem
On 12/24/21 9:22 PM, John Heritage via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I'm trying to find a picture of my first modem online, and can't seem to find one..
I remember my first modem (I was ~ 7 years old or ~ 1983-1984 when we first got it, but had it for years later) being a 300 baud "Bell" modem. I *believe* it had an acoustic coupler, but it *might but I do not remember needing to use it to initiate connections to BBSes at the time. I'm not sure if there were hybrid modems where they still had an acoustic coupler, but also supported auto dial of some kind.
My memory also tells me it was a black modem, rectangular (metal?) exterior. I think the modem might have said "Bell Labs" rather than just Bell on the front. I'm also 95% sure that the modem .. disappeared .. from Bell thanks to a family member who worked there/at AT&T (and also was an Atari 800 owner like us). We attached this modem (and later modems) to an Atari 850 interface, so it had a standard serial interface.
Lastly, I'm certain it was *not* a Bell 103 modem - which would have been positively ancient by the early 80s, but some other design from Bell. Or at least not an original appearance one..
I recall the Bell 300 modem (non-acoustic coupled). It had a AT&T Bell logo on the front. So either Commsphere or Dataphone, probably Dataphone. I think it had 103 on the front. Black plastic front, rest of it was metal and an external 48v DC power brick, 2 screws on the brick. I can't recall if the modem had screws or was hard wired. I do recall a DB25, male I think.
-- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
My first modem I got free with my used Commodore 64. It was the Vic-Modem, which was 300 baud. I don't think I used it or if I did, I didn't use it too much because maybe it was broken? Or just too slow? I recall buying a Commodore 1670 modem which is 1200 baud. I definitely used that one a lot. I first tried calling different BBS listed in pirated games, but most of them were disconnected so I didn't really connect to them. Besides, I didn't want to run up phone bills. I think that the local user group Garden State Commodore Users Group had a BBS, but didn't use it much. I mostly just used Q-link. It was sufficient for whatever I needed: uploading, downloading files, chatting with others, sending messages, finding information, etc. On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 11:30 AM W2HX via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
What was your first modem? Mine was a kit from Micromint in Long Island. It was around 1980 or so (I was about 13). My dad drove me to Cedarhurst, LI (I lived in Merrick, LI) to the Micromint sales office and bought this kit. It was an acoustic coupler, 300 baud kit, with an enclosure, a PCB and a bag of parts. I had low expectations that it would work when assembled. I spent a few days assembling and soldering everything. I think the time was around Christmas and my new brother-in-law was over. He was a post-grad at university of Texas at Austin and had a computer account (don't recall the computer). It was time to test it. Me, my brother-in-law and my father were all standing around my TRS-80 Model III and this newly built modem, trying to call into the computer system at UT Austin. In those days, long distance calls were expensive. We must have dialed that computer 20 times while attempting to adjust the pots and make it work, unsure if it would ever work. I can't imagine what the bill was.
I was adjusting one of the pots and then, like a miracle, there it was "WELCOME TO THE UT AUSTIN COMPUTING CENTER" I can't swear that is exactly what it said but you get the idea. We all jumped for joy. The darn thing worked as advertised. Great experience and that modem served me well for several years until I upgraded to a Micromint 1200 baud "direct connect" modem before I went to college.
73 Eugene W2HX Subscribe to my Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/w2hx-channel/videos
-----Original Message----- From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org> On Behalf Of Neil Cherry via vcf-midatlantic Sent: Friday, December 24, 2021 10:29 PM To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Cc: Neil Cherry <ncherry@linuxha.com> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Help me remember my first modem
On 12/24/21 9:22 PM, John Heritage via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I'm trying to find a picture of my first modem online, and can't seem to find one..
I remember my first modem (I was ~ 7 years old or ~ 1983-1984 when we first got it, but had it for years later) being a 300 baud "Bell" modem. I *believe* it had an acoustic coupler, but it *might but I do not remember needing to use it to initiate connections to BBSes at the time. I'm not sure if there were hybrid modems where they still had an acoustic coupler, but also supported auto dial of some kind.
My memory also tells me it was a black modem, rectangular (metal?) exterior. I think the modem might have said "Bell Labs" rather than just Bell on the front. I'm also 95% sure that the modem .. disappeared .. from Bell thanks to a family member who worked there/at AT&T (and also was an Atari 800 owner like us). We attached this modem (and later modems) to an Atari 850 interface, so it had a standard serial interface.
Lastly, I'm certain it was *not* a Bell 103 modem - which would have been positively ancient by the early 80s, but some other design from Bell. Or at least not an original appearance one..
I recall the Bell 300 modem (non-acoustic coupled). It had a AT&T Bell logo on the front. So either Commsphere or Dataphone, probably Dataphone. I think it had 103 on the front. Black plastic front, rest of it was metal and an external 48v DC power brick, 2 screws on the brick. I can't recall if the modem had screws or was hard wired. I do recall a DB25, male I think.
-- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
My first modem was was a surplus 300 bps acoustic coupled model I bought at the Trenton Computer Fest around 1978 or 1979. I used it for a few years with my Apple ][+ before I retired it. I was an IBM customer engineer at the time and one of my customers gave me a Bell 212 unit (don’t remember the actual model #) so I upgraded to 1200bps at that time. I used that with a dual serial card for the Apple I built on a proto board to get online and to connect to a serial terminal. I wrote a very small machine language program to redirect the Cin (character in) & Cout (character out) routines to the serial port. The terminal allowed me to view the BBSes at 80x24 rather than the Apple’s 40 column display. Also, the only printer I had at the time was a screen printer attached to the aux port of the terminal so at least I could get a hard copy. The write up was published in the ACGNJ newsletter and Steve Ciarcia even referenced it in a future issue of his “Ask Byte” column in Byte magazine. I was thrilled to have a hardware guru like Steve reference something I built. Jeff On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 9:30 AM W2HX via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
What was your first modem? Mine was a kit from Micromint in Long Island. It was around 1980 or so (I was about 13).
73 Eugene W2HX Subscribe to my Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/w2hx-channel/videos
----- Original message ----- From: W2HX via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Cc: W2HX <w2hx@w2hx.com> Subject: [vcf-midatlantic] Your First Modem? (was: Help me remember my first modem) Date: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 11:28 What was your first modem? ------------------------- It was a 300b VIC-modem for my Vic-20. I promptly ran up a $300+ Compuserve bill, (which got added to the phone bill somehow, IIRC) and got modem privileges revoked for quite a while. (somewhere around 1982 or so.) I still have it in a box......somewhere. --murph
I don't remember what modem I had, I think it was the volks modem for the C65. I used up all the compuserve free service and then some guys I knew gave me a dialup to a sprint service. I think it was tymnet and there was a chat room called QSD that I would connect to, that and a bunch of local boards. I used to go to the 2600 meetings at the Citibank building and I would get info on new places to dial into.
Correction C64, On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 9:36 AM Christian Liendo <cliendo@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't remember what modem I had, I think it was the volks modem for the C65. I used up all the compuserve free service and then some guys I knew gave me a dialup to a sprint service. I think it was tymnet and there was a chat room called QSD that I would connect to, that and a bunch of local boards. I used to go to the 2600 meetings at the Citibank building and I would get info on new places to dial into.
Does anyone remember their first access to real internet? I mean my first access was in CUNY at school, but after that I got a slip account ar Dorsai. I had an Amiga 500 around this time
1993. It was a little before the "Al Gore" Internet with the WWW and all that. When I worked at Zeneca Pharmaceuticals I was on a team that wrote an application that used the Internet system to communicate (send files) from a network outside of the internal company-wide VMS network of VAX servers. Bill On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 12:44 PM Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Does anyone remember their first access to real internet?
I mean my first access was in CUNY at school, but after that I got a slip account ar Dorsai. I had an Amiga 500 around this time
On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 12:44 PM Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Does anyone remember their first access to real internet?
Yes. When I went to college in Philadelphia at Drexel University. September 1991. I connected through a Wyse terminal (not sure which model) into an IBM-3090 (not sure about the model). This is where I sent my first internet e-mail to my sister who worked at Microsoft and a friend who worked at AT&T. I also believe that I played MUDs on this terminal. It was quite exciting going from dial-up modems to hardwire connected terminals to the internet.
I mean my first access was in CUNY at school, but after that I got a slip account ar Dorsai. I had an Amiga 500 around this time
Friend figured out out how to break out of a guest information login on a unix host that belonged to school system. I think it called more to show a document and you could do a !#/bin/sh and land in shell. telnet archie.au then would plug in known filenames of PC demos and mod files to find collections of them on public ftp sites. Ahh ftp.funet.fi Then would add them to my BBS after ftp and then running sz to zmodem them. The downside was the unix host had crappy modems. No HST Dual Standard. Maybe it was 9600 not 144. - Ethan On Wed, 29 Dec 2021, Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Does anyone remember their first access to real internet?
I mean my first access was in CUNY at school, but after that I got a slip account ar Dorsai. I had an Amiga 500 around this time
1990 - I came home from school and a girlfriend's father got me a summer job at MITRE (DC defense contractor) where I had access to a Sun workstation in a lab. I had some really boring job to compare two different compliers speed and I recall going ignoring that and going around newsgroups and downloading software via FTP and exploring email. Learning the basics about UNIX and Xwindows was what I really learned there that summer. But 1993-1995 was a fun time- shared a house with friends and I had a nice dial-up with Clark.net <http://clark.net/> (a new startup ISP in Ellicott City MD). I setup a on-demand dialup linux host that also had thin-net run around the basement. There were about 4 other PC's setup and all had telnet. MUDding, ftp, NNTP, email with PINE on a UMD College Park account, all really fun pre-web stuff you could do with 5 people at once on a 14.4k modem dialup. -andy
On Dec 29, 2021, at 12:43 PM, Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Does anyone remember their first access to real internet?
I mean my first access was in CUNY at school, but after that I got a slip account ar Dorsai. I had an Amiga 500 around this time
On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 12:43:24PM -0500, Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Does anyone remember their first access to real internet?
Probably some scope creep in this reply but you're probably used to that from me. (Spelling and grammar is right because my wife looked at it) I remember internet more than modem. For modem we probably had a 1200 baud internal in our PC. Used it to check library catalog and some other unremembered stuff but wasn't into BBS or other services. First internet was college in the 82-86 time frame. Can't remember if it was Freshman or later that I had access to the right systems. Had Usenet, FTP and email access. The fun of strange email syntax to get to less well connected sites and BITNET gateways to IBM world. Lost access when graduated. Had a project a little later at work that I used to convinced management that I needed internet access for. Got dedicated dialup with a 9600 baud modem. Main use was USENET news feed, email, and FTP. May have been UUNET. Later was PSINET. I think start was around start of commercial use OK though we were a defense contractor so not sure which way we got access. Put a second modem on the machine and then could dial in from home and use it for personal stuff. Think I used the VT52 that I got with my PDP-8 stuff to start with since I didn't have a modern computer initially at my house. Later used my now wife's 3B1 with external 2400 baud modem. Played a little with gopher when it came out but not that much later web appeared and I built Mosaic from source. Later we bought a copy of Netscape. Initially the project used Sun VME card then moved on to HP. Remember the lack of security such as being able to telnet into machines at a company we were working with. Also taking screen shot of a users X screen at another location who didn't believe when I said they had things too open. Slowly more of the company started using the internet through the engineering machine. Modem got upgraded in speed when available but single modem was the entire company's internet access. At some point IT took it over. At some point got internet access at home and stopped using work for personal stuff. Went through dialup (PPP), DSL, cable modem, and FIOS.
In college I used BITNET and another one, later, called CSNET IIRC. This was sometime between '85 and '89 (my stint of undergrad). Both of these allowed me to send emails to my brother-in-law at UT Austin and later Yale where he did his post-doc. I am pretty sure one of them (CSNET?) allowed remote sessions, not just mail. I think these (or maybe just csnet) had a connection out to the internet. Then I remember something called "Internet In a Box" anyone remember that? Pre-netscape. Had mosaic, gopher, archie clients which I played with. 73 Eugene W2HX Subscribe to my Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/w2hx-channel/videos -----Original Message----- From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org> On Behalf Of Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 12:43 PM To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Cc: Christian Liendo <cliendo@gmail.com> Subject: [vcf-midatlantic] First access to real internet Re: Your First Modem? (was: Help me remember my first modem) Does anyone remember their first access to real internet? I mean my first access was in CUNY at school, but after that I got a slip account ar Dorsai. I had an Amiga 500 around this time
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