Got to the museum at 12:30pm. I was a little late because I had to teach Taekwondo today and there were no other docents available. A visitor came about a minute later with high interest, so I gave him an extended tour. The day was filled with a steady stream of visitors due to the Model Train Holiday show at InfoAge. Most were casual visitors with children who were mostly interested in games, etc. Mouse came to help Martin to string network wire in the 9010-A section (where the museum is). They worked for about 5 hours to wire the 9010-B and 9010-A sections. Thanks Mouse and Martin! The physical wiring is done with some networking hardware and software configuration needing to be done next. VCF will soon have hard wire access to the internet and not have to rely on Mobile Citizen for internet access. I also tried out new bottoms for the stools in the museum. We have caster wheels which we felt were dangerous to child visitors because they could easily fall when the stools moved suddenly. The new casters are flat instead of wheels. We are trying it with one stool to see how it goes. -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation
On 12/21/2019 4:55 PM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Got to the museum at 12:30pm. I was a little late because I had to teach Taekwondo today and there were no other docents available. A visitor came about a minute later with high interest, so I gave him an extended tour.
The day was filled with a steady stream of visitors due to the Model Train Holiday show at InfoAge. Most were casual visitors with children who were mostly interested in games, etc.
Mouse came to help Martin to string network wire in the 9010-A section (where the museum is). They worked for about 5 hours to wire the 9010-B and 9010-A sections. Thanks Mouse and Martin!
The physical wiring is done with some networking hardware and software configuration needing to be done next.
VCF will soon have hard wire access to the internet and not have to rely on Mobile Citizen for internet access.
I also tried out new bottoms for the stools in the museum. We have caster wheels which we felt were dangerous to child visitors because they could easily fall when the stools moved suddenly. The new casters are flat instead of wheels. We are trying it with one stool to see how it goes.
Jeff, To give credit where due, Mouse and myself had help from Steve and Ken from GSMRC as well. Last portion of this project is the run of coaxial cable across the attic of the visitor center. For those interested, The physical layer is Ethernet over coax, (MOCA 2.0 protocol) at 1GB between the new data rack in 9010B to the core in Building 9059. Martin
On 12/21/19 8:21 PM, Martin Flynn via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
For those interested, The physical layer is Ethernet over coax, (MOCA 2.0 protocol) at 1GB between the new data rack in 9010B to the core in Building 9059.
Darn. I was thinking it was the old Thinnet and maybe you were going to bring out some of the Vampire Taps or something cool like that. So much for vintage computer networking. - Derrik -- Derrik Walker v2.0 dwalker@doomd.net https://www.doomd.net "Those UNIX guys, they think weird!" -- John C. Dvorak
On Dec 21, 2019, at 10:18 PM, Derrik Walker v2.0 via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
On 12/21/19 8:21 PM, Martin Flynn via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
For those interested, The physical layer is Ethernet over coax, (MOCA 2.0 protocol) at 1GB between the new data rack in 9010B to the core in Building 9059.
Darn. I was thinking it was the old Thinnet and maybe you were going to bring out some of the Vampire Taps or something cool like that.
So much for vintage computer networking.
No RG-62 coax for ARCNET?. :)
On 12/21/2019 10:18 PM, Derrik Walker v2.0 via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
On 12/21/19 8:21 PM, Martin Flynn via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
For those interested, The physical layer is Ethernet over coax, (MOCA 2.0 protocol) at 1GB between the new data rack in 9010B to the core in Building 9059.
Darn. I was thinking it was the old Thinnet and maybe you were going to bring out some of the Vampire Taps or something cool like that.
So much for vintage computer networking.
One of the Cisco router in the rack has the necessary 15 pin AUI port, see VCF managment if you want to develop a plan to a deply this tech...
While the primary purpose of the work Martin and others are doing as specifically relates to VCF is getting modern hardwired networking for museum management, there are other things in the works. The work done recently brings our building network into this century. Things like smart outlets, the security cameras and remote login to our server are part of our upgrade process and not specifically to network our collection but better manage the museum, collection and resources (like electrical usage) As to other work, Evan and others have been planning a dialup bbs setup in the museum with multiple machines able to “dial in” to it, but it never seemed to get beyond the planning stages for a variety of reasons. We plan to build from that foundation and get those system up in the near future as well. As to networking other machines, as Martin pointed out there is some capability already in place with one of the routers but Andy and others have already talked about other networking possibilities. With 5 of us (well 4 since Evans sudden departure but the SC will be 5 again as quickly as possible plus elections for two seats by Festivus 2020) we are working on multiple projects simultaneously that just were not feasible when most of the weight was on one persons shoulders. Tony Bogan Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 22, 2019, at 7:22 AM, Martin Flynn via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
On 12/21/2019 10:18 PM, Derrik Walker v2.0 via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
On 12/21/19 8:21 PM, Martin Flynn via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
For those interested, The physical layer is Ethernet over coax, (MOCA 2.0 protocol) at 1GB between the new data rack in 9010B to the core in Building 9059.
Darn. I was thinking it was the old Thinnet and maybe you were going to bring out some of the Vampire Taps or something cool like that.
So much for vintage computer networking.
One of the Cisco router in the rack has the necessary 15 pin AUI port, see VCF managment if you want to develop a plan to a deply this tech...
On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 8:20 PM Martin Flynn via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Jeff,
To give credit where due, Mouse and myself had help from Steve and Ken from GSMRC as well.
I stand corrected. Please thank them as well! -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation
Some more information for future BBS/Dialup in the museum. While not job one on our list of things to do between now and VCF East, I figured those interested would like to know what is and what will be available to us down the road. I’m also hopeful when the time comes the Steering Committee can set up a sub committee of members willing to help implement “the plan” once we come up with “the plan.” Tony As per Martin Flynn: Tony, CDL has a 100 pair telco cable staged for deployment between 9059 and 9010. As I mentioned to Mouse yesterday, Once it's deployed, CDL can provide analog lines from the PBX in 9059 for the BBS and demo modems in the VCF space. Downside is we discovered that someone cut out and scrapped the 25 pair cable that runs into the VCF museum space. A little more work than expected, but not an insurmountable issue.
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Derrik Walker v2.0 -
Jeffrey Brace -
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Peter Cetinski -
Tony Bogan