Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Mac OS 7.1 Terminal Emulator & BBS software
Oh, my mistake, it’s not 1.5 mb, it’s 8mb. But my hard drive sounds very gummy. Where it’ll slow down and stop spinning occasionally. I haven’t opened it up to see which model hard drive to see if there’s something I can do to clean up the spindle motor/bearings On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 3:20 PM Ben Greenfield via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On Mar 4, 2018, at 2:29 PM, Dean Notarnicola via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
I've got 128MB (unofficial maximum) installed in mine. Makes a big difference.
Wow! I have got to try that,
On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 1:42 PM Herb Johnson via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
on my SE/30,... (running 7.1) as I only have 1.5mb of Ram.
What? An SE/30 has eight 30-pin SIMM slots. Get some 4MB SIMM's! Fill that puppy *up*! - Herb
-- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net
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Normal Person: Hey, it seems that you know a lot. Geek: To be honest, it's due to all the surfing I do. Normal Person: So you go surfing? Normal Person: But I don't think that has anything to do with knowing a lot... Geek: I think that's wrong on a fundamental level. Normal Person: Huh? Huh? What?
Ticking time bomb. Very soon, I'll be backing up the HD to a SCSI2SD to protect against the inevitable. On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 7:06 AM Joseph Oprysko via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
Oh, my mistake, it’s not 1.5 mb, it’s 8mb. But my hard drive sounds very gummy. Where it’ll slow down and stop spinning occasionally.
I haven’t opened it up to see which model hard drive to see if there’s something I can do to clean up the spindle motor/bearings
On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 3:20 PM Ben Greenfield via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On Mar 4, 2018, at 2:29 PM, Dean Notarnicola via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
I've got 128MB (unofficial maximum) installed in mine. Makes a big difference.
Wow! I have got to try that,
On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 1:42 PM Herb Johnson via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
on my SE/30,... (running 7.1) as I only have 1.5mb of Ram.
What? An SE/30 has eight 30-pin SIMM slots. Get some 4MB SIMM's! Fill that puppy *up*! - Herb
-- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net
--
Normal Person: Hey, it seems that you know a lot. Geek: To be honest, it's due to all the surfing I do. Normal Person: So you go surfing? Normal Person: But I don't think that has anything to do with knowing a lot... Geek: I think that's wrong on a fundamental level. Normal Person: Huh? Huh? What?
Yeah, but there’s gotta be something I can do. I don’t have a SCSI2SD. And since I can’t use the floppyemu as a hard drive on the SE/30 (works as a floppy drive), I need to think of something. On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 7:08 AM Dean Notarnicola <dnotarnicola@gmail.com> wrote:
Ticking time bomb. Very soon, I'll be backing up the HD to a SCSI2SD to protect against the inevitable.
On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 7:06 AM Joseph Oprysko via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
Oh, my mistake, it’s not 1.5 mb, it’s 8mb. But my hard drive sounds very gummy. Where it’ll slow down and stop spinning occasionally.
I haven’t opened it up to see which model hard drive to see if there’s something I can do to clean up the spindle motor/bearings
On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 3:20 PM Ben Greenfield via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On Mar 4, 2018, at 2:29 PM, Dean Notarnicola via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
I've got 128MB (unofficial maximum) installed in mine. Makes a big difference.
Wow! I have got to try that,
On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 1:42 PM Herb Johnson via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
on my SE/30,... (running 7.1) as I only have 1.5mb of Ram.
What? An SE/30 has eight 30-pin SIMM slots. Get some 4MB SIMM's! Fill that puppy *up*! - Herb
-- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net
--
Normal Person: Hey, it seems that you know a lot. Geek: To be honest, it's due to all the surfing I do. Normal Person: So you go surfing? Normal Person: But I don't think that has anything to do with knowing a lot... Geek: I think that's wrong on a fundamental level. Normal Person: Huh? Huh? What?
-- Normal Person: Hey, it seems that you know a lot. Geek: To be honest, it's due to all the surfing I do. Normal Person: So you go surfing? Normal Person: But I don't think that has anything to do with knowing a lot... Geek: I think that's wrong on a fundamental level. Normal Person: Huh? Huh? What?
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On Mar 5, 2018, at 7:12 AM, Joseph Oprysko via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
Yeah, but there’s gotta be something I can do. I don’t have a SCSI2SD. And since I can’t use the floppyemu as a hard drive on the SE/30 (works as a floppy drive), I need to think of something.
Next time you're out this way I can at least give you a replacement drive that's in good working order till you get a more permanent solution. I've also got new old stock 4.1gb 68 pin drives with adapters to 50 pin as well but they cost a few bucks. A 250 meg 50 pin scsi drive is yours if you want it, have lots of them. Tony
Awesome, thanks! My SE/30 has a massive 40MB drive. ;) On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 8:43 AM Tony Bogan <thebogans@mac.com> wrote:
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On Mar 5, 2018, at 7:12 AM, Joseph Oprysko via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
Yeah, but there’s gotta be something I can do. I don’t have a SCSI2SD. And since I can’t use the floppyemu as a hard drive on the SE/30 (works as a floppy drive), I need to think of something.
Next time you're out this way I can at least give you a replacement drive that's in good working order till you get a more permanent solution. I've also got new old stock 4.1gb 68 pin drives with adapters to 50 pin as well but they cost a few bucks. A 250 meg 50 pin scsi drive is yours if you want it, have lots of them. Tony
-- Normal Person: Hey, it seems that you know a lot. Geek: To be honest, it's due to all the surfing I do. Normal Person: So you go surfing? Normal Person: But I don't think that has anything to do with knowing a lot... Geek: I think that's wrong on a fundamental level. Normal Person: Huh? Huh? What?
I don't know if this is a "duh" comment, but I have found using an external SCSI drive and porting it from machine to machine is very useful, so I don't have to worry so much about the internal drive being the only option for booting MACs, not that I do it super often. Bill On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 8:59 AM, Joseph Oprysko via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
Awesome, thanks! My SE/30 has a massive 40MB drive. ;)
On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 8:43 AM Tony Bogan <thebogans@mac.com> wrote:
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On Mar 5, 2018, at 7:12 AM, Joseph Oprysko via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
Yeah, but there’s gotta be something I can do. I don’t have a SCSI2SD. And since I can’t use the floppyemu as a hard drive on the SE/30 (works as
a
floppy drive), I need to think of something.
Next time you're out this way I can at least give you a replacement drive that's in good working order till you get a more permanent solution. I've also got new old stock 4.1gb 68 pin drives with adapters to 50 pin as well but they cost a few bucks. A 250 meg 50 pin scsi drive is yours if you want it, have lots of them. Tony
-- Normal Person: Hey, it seems that you know a lot. Geek: To be honest, it's due to all the surfing I do. Normal Person: So you go surfing? Normal Person: But I don't think that has anything to do with knowing a lot... Geek: I think that's wrong on a fundamental level. Normal Person: Huh? Huh? What?
On Mar 5, 2018, at 9:16 AM, Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
I don't know if this is a "duh" comment, but I have found using an external SCSI drive and porting it from machine to machine is very useful, so I don't have to worry so much about the internal drive being the only option for booting MACs, not that I do it super often.
Bill
Not a "duh" comment at all, I do the exact same thing. I primarily use Zip drives as I have ones with parallel, FireWire, USB and 50 pin scsi connectors so I can easily move the 100mb and 250 disks between machines without having to connect and disconnect drives. I actually thought of suggesting an external drive to Joe but people often ask ridiculous prices for the enclosures, especially with a drive installed, and I have only a handful that are all in use or paired with machines I'm selling. However, I have 40, 80 and 250mb mechanisms in large quantity so this will at least get him by for now (assuming I can get it to him before his current one dies!!) My main se/30 I use for testing peripherals, making/testing hd floppies and transferring stuff across my network has a scsi2sd in it now and my other playtime se/30 has a 4.1gb internal hdd. Doesn't matter to me when it dies, have plenty of spares and I just like the sound of a hdd spinning up in my machines!! Tony
I don’t have any of my old Zip Drives save one internal one, nor my Jaz Drive. My Zip drives would have been useless anyway as all the ones I owned were parallel port, not SCSI. I LOVED my Jaz drive back when I had it, as I also had the USB->SCSI adapter for it, so it made it much easier to move large files between my systems. My Jaz drives, as well as my Zip drives just happened to be in the van that got taken, as well as a fair bit of other vintage computer equipment, and my Sony AIBO as well. But that’s all long gone by this point. As for an external SCSI enclosure, I think I have one. Actually, I’m almost sure of it. Because the SCSI drive that was originally internal on this SE/30 was dead when I got the system, and I pulled the 40mb SCSI Drive out of the enclosure to mount internally. The main reason I prefer an internal drive is simply so there is less I have to carry/move around if moving the systems. My systems tend to move often, as my wife limits me to one, or occasionally 2 vintage computers in the house at a time. So the different systems rotate in and out of my storage unit. I really did wish I had more room to be able to have multiple systems available for me to work on at any one time. On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 9:54 AM Tony Bogan via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On Mar 5, 2018, at 9:16 AM, Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
I don't know if this is a "duh" comment, but I have found using an external SCSI drive and porting it from machine to machine is very useful, so I don't have to worry so much about the internal drive being the only option for booting MACs, not that I do it super often.
Bill
Not a "duh" comment at all, I do the exact same thing. I primarily use Zip drives as I have ones with parallel, FireWire, USB and 50 pin scsi connectors so I can easily move the 100mb and 250 disks between machines without having to connect and disconnect drives. I actually thought of suggesting an external drive to Joe but people often ask ridiculous prices for the enclosures, especially with a drive installed, and I have only a handful that are all in use or paired with machines I'm selling. However, I have 40, 80 and 250mb mechanisms in large quantity so this will at least get him by for now (assuming I can get it to him before his current one dies!!)
My main se/30 I use for testing peripherals, making/testing hd floppies and transferring stuff across my network has a scsi2sd in it now and my other playtime se/30 has a 4.1gb internal hdd. Doesn't matter to me when it dies, have plenty of spares and I just like the sound of a hdd spinning up in my machines!! Tony
-- Normal Person: Hey, it seems that you know a lot. Geek: To be honest, it's due to all the surfing I do. Normal Person: So you go surfing? Normal Person: But I don't think that has anything to do with knowing a lot... Geek: I think that's wrong on a fundamental level. Normal Person: Huh? Huh? What?
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