I finally herded together the extant pictures of the KIM-1s I've had in the past and did a writeup: http://www.glitchwrks.com/2022/09/18/kim1-boards-past TL;DR is that during college I found a KIM-1 in an employer's warehouse. Later, I found a box with five more! These were all Virginia Tech surplus, and one of them is likely the first KIM-1 used for classroom instruction there. I'd intended to sell some of them, since who needs six, right? Unfortunately, I was forced to sell all of them, including the one I'd intended to keep for myself, due to economic/financial situations after graduation. I've never seen anyone post about these particular machines, and I haven't seen them exhibited at VCF East, VCF Midwest, or HOPE. None of the sellers contacted me about them after the sale concluded. Is anyone here the owner of one of these particular KIM-1s? Do you know the owner? Did you use KIM-1s while at Virginia Tech? Please let me know! Thanks, Jonathan
nice writeup. Maybe one of these is a Rockwell Kim-1, I'd have to look more closely. Bill On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 9:11 PM Jonathan Chapman via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I finally herded together the extant pictures of the KIM-1s I've had in the past and did a writeup:
http://www.glitchwrks.com/2022/09/18/kim1-boards-past
TL;DR is that during college I found a KIM-1 in an employer's warehouse. Later, I found a box with five more! These were all Virginia Tech surplus, and one of them is likely the first KIM-1 used for classroom instruction there. I'd intended to sell some of them, since who needs six, right? Unfortunately, I was forced to sell all of them, including the one I'd intended to keep for myself, due to economic/financial situations after graduation.
I've never seen anyone post about these particular machines, and I haven't seen them exhibited at VCF East, VCF Midwest, or HOPE. None of the sellers contacted me about them after the sale concluded. Is anyone here the owner of one of these particular KIM-1s? Do you know the owner? Did you use KIM-1s while at Virginia Tech? Please let me know!
Thanks, Jonathan
Here is what I mean by "Rockwell" https://www.vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=571 Yours don't look superficially like they're what I call Rockwell's, but FYI, what I have Bill On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 9:11 PM Jonathan Chapman via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I finally herded together the extant pictures of the KIM-1s I've had in the past and did a writeup:
http://www.glitchwrks.com/2022/09/18/kim1-boards-past
TL;DR is that during college I found a KIM-1 in an employer's warehouse. Later, I found a box with five more! These were all Virginia Tech surplus, and one of them is likely the first KIM-1 used for classroom instruction there. I'd intended to sell some of them, since who needs six, right? Unfortunately, I was forced to sell all of them, including the one I'd intended to keep for myself, due to economic/financial situations after graduation.
I've never seen anyone post about these particular machines, and I haven't seen them exhibited at VCF East, VCF Midwest, or HOPE. None of the sellers contacted me about them after the sale concluded. Is anyone here the owner of one of these particular KIM-1s? Do you know the owner? Did you use KIM-1s while at Virginia Tech? Please let me know!
Thanks, Jonathan
Hello! Anything that was branded Rockwell, actually Synertek would be called Sym-1. And because I'm pretty good at R6502 programming I've been trying to find one for a while. I've also got the processors that would be considered spares for Atari home video games, so when I find the time for it, I've got an idea to assemble a system in a (wait for it!) S-100 bus configuration. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8@gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 9:31 PM Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Here is what I mean by "Rockwell" https://www.vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=571 Yours don't look superficially like they're what I call Rockwell's, but FYI, what I have Bill
On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 9:11 PM Jonathan Chapman via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I finally herded together the extant pictures of the KIM-1s I've had in the past and did a writeup:
http://www.glitchwrks.com/2022/09/18/kim1-boards-past
TL;DR is that during college I found a KIM-1 in an employer's warehouse. Later, I found a box with five more! These were all Virginia Tech surplus, and one of them is likely the first KIM-1 used for classroom instruction there. I'd intended to sell some of them, since who needs six, right? Unfortunately, I was forced to sell all of them, including the one I'd intended to keep for myself, due to economic/financial situations after graduation.
I've never seen anyone post about these particular machines, and I haven't seen them exhibited at VCF East, VCF Midwest, or HOPE. None of the sellers contacted me about them after the sale concluded. Is anyone here the owner of one of these particular KIM-1s? Do you know the owner? Did you use KIM-1s while at Virginia Tech? Please let me know!
Thanks, Jonathan
The SYM-1 is similar to the KIM-1, but they're very different visually. Bill's "Rockwell" version KIM-1 is actually a KIM-1, not a SYM-1. -Dave On 9/18/22 22:44, Gregg Levine via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Anything that was branded Rockwell, actually Synertek would be called Sym-1. And because I'm pretty good at R6502 programming I've been trying to find one for a while. I've also got the processors that would be considered spares for Atari home video games, so when I find the time for it, I've got an idea to assemble a system in a (wait for it!) S-100 bus configuration. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8@gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 9:31 PM Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Here is what I mean by "Rockwell" https://www.vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=571 Yours don't look superficially like they're what I call Rockwell's, but FYI, what I have Bill
On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 9:11 PM Jonathan Chapman via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I finally herded together the extant pictures of the KIM-1s I've had in the past and did a writeup:
http://www.glitchwrks.com/2022/09/18/kim1-boards-past
TL;DR is that during college I found a KIM-1 in an employer's warehouse. Later, I found a box with five more! These were all Virginia Tech surplus, and one of them is likely the first KIM-1 used for classroom instruction there. I'd intended to sell some of them, since who needs six, right? Unfortunately, I was forced to sell all of them, including the one I'd intended to keep for myself, due to economic/financial situations after graduation.
I've never seen anyone post about these particular machines, and I haven't seen them exhibited at VCF East, VCF Midwest, or HOPE. None of the sellers contacted me about them after the sale concluded. Is anyone here the owner of one of these particular KIM-1s? Do you know the owner? Did you use KIM-1s while at Virginia Tech? Please let me know!
Thanks, Jonathan
-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
yup. I don't know if you read the logic of my post, but it seems to me like Rockwell may have sold a few KIM-1's before they made their own AIM-65's or maybe they had a license to make KIMs at the same time. The Synertec was first called VIM-1 and MOS forced them (story?) to rename their VIM-1 to SYM-1. So, if you're into collecting these things VIM-1's are rarer than SYM-1's but their the same thing and neither are KIMs. My KIM-1 https://www.vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=571 Rockwell KIM-1 http://retro.hansotten.nl/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/IMG_9755-768x1024.jpg Synertek VIM-1 https://www.vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=434 Bill On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 10:50 PM Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
The SYM-1 is similar to the KIM-1, but they're very different visually. Bill's "Rockwell" version KIM-1 is actually a KIM-1, not a SYM-1.
-Dave
On 9/18/22 22:44, Gregg Levine via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Anything that was branded Rockwell, actually Synertek would be called Sym-1. And because I'm pretty good at R6502 programming I've been trying to find one for a while. I've also got the processors that would be considered spares for Atari home video games, so when I find the time for it, I've got an idea to assemble a system in a (wait for it!) S-100 bus configuration. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8@gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 9:31 PM Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Here is what I mean by "Rockwell" https://www.vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=571 Yours don't look superficially like they're what I call Rockwell's, but FYI, what I have Bill
On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 9:11 PM Jonathan Chapman via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I finally herded together the extant pictures of the KIM-1s I've had in the past and did a writeup:
http://www.glitchwrks.com/2022/09/18/kim1-boards-past
TL;DR is that during college I found a KIM-1 in an employer's
warehouse.
Later, I found a box with five more! These were all Virginia Tech surplus, and one of them is likely the first KIM-1 used for classroom instruction there. I'd intended to sell some of them, since who needs six, right? Unfortunately, I was forced to sell all of them, including the one I'd intended to keep for myself, due to economic/financial situations after graduation.
I've never seen anyone post about these particular machines, and I haven't seen them exhibited at VCF East, VCF Midwest, or HOPE. None of the sellers contacted me about them after the sale concluded. Is anyone here the owner of one of these particular KIM-1s? Do you know the owner? Did you use KIM-1s while at Virginia Tech? Please let me know!
Thanks, Jonathan
-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
One might have expected the Rockwell KIM-1 to have Rockwell 6502. But no its MOS. On 9/18/2022 11:26 PM, Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
yup. I don't know if you read the logic of my post, but it seems to me like Rockwell may have sold a few KIM-1's before they made their own AIM-65's or maybe they had a license to make KIMs at the same time. The Synertec was first called VIM-1 and MOS forced them (story?) to rename their VIM-1 to SYM-1. So, if you're into collecting these things VIM-1's are rarer than SYM-1's but their the same thing and neither are KIMs.
My KIM-1 https://www.vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=571 Rockwell KIM-1 http://retro.hansotten.nl/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/IMG_9755-768x1024.jpg
Synertek VIM-1 https://www.vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=434
Bill
On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 10:50 PM Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
The SYM-1 is similar to the KIM-1, but they're very different visually. Bill's "Rockwell" version KIM-1 is actually a KIM-1, not a SYM-1.
-Dave
On 9/18/22 22:44, Gregg Levine via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Anything that was branded Rockwell, actually Synertek would be called Sym-1. And because I'm pretty good at R6502 programming I've been trying to find one for a while. I've also got the processors that would be considered spares for Atari home video games, so when I find the time for it, I've got an idea to assemble a system in a (wait for it!) S-100 bus configuration. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8@gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 9:31 PM Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Here is what I mean by "Rockwell" https://www.vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=571 Yours don't look superficially like they're what I call Rockwell's, but FYI, what I have Bill
On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 9:11 PM Jonathan Chapman via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I finally herded together the extant pictures of the KIM-1s I've had in the past and did a writeup:
http://www.glitchwrks.com/2022/09/18/kim1-boards-past
TL;DR is that during college I found a KIM-1 in an employer's
warehouse.
Later, I found a box with five more! These were all Virginia Tech surplus, and one of them is likely the first KIM-1 used for classroom instruction there. I'd intended to sell some of them, since who needs six, right? Unfortunately, I was forced to sell all of them, including the one I'd intended to keep for myself, due to economic/financial situations after graduation.
I've never seen anyone post about these particular machines, and I haven't seen them exhibited at VCF East, VCF Midwest, or HOPE. None of the sellers contacted me about them after the sale concluded. Is anyone here the owner of one of these particular KIM-1s? Do you know the owner? Did you use KIM-1s while at Virginia Tech? Please let me know!
Thanks, Jonathan
-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
Isn't there another "rebadge" KIM-1 using the late model design with 2x 2114s instead of 8x 2102As? Thanks, Jonathan ------- Original Message ------- On Sunday, September 18th, 2022 at 23:26, Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
yup. I don't know if you read the logic of my post, but it seems to me like Rockwell may have sold a few KIM-1's before they made their own AIM-65's or maybe they had a license to make KIMs at the same time. The Synertec was first called VIM-1 and MOS forced them (story?) to rename their VIM-1 to SYM-1. So, if you're into collecting these things VIM-1's are rarer than SYM-1's but their the same thing and neither are KIMs.
My KIM-1 https://www.vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=571 Rockwell KIM-1 http://retro.hansotten.nl/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/IMG_9755-768x1024.jpg
Synertek VIM-1 https://www.vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=434
Bill
On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 10:50 PM Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
The SYM-1 is similar to the KIM-1, but they're very different visually. Bill's "Rockwell" version KIM-1 is actually a KIM-1, not a SYM-1.
-Dave
On 9/18/22 22:44, Gregg Levine via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Anything that was branded Rockwell, actually Synertek would be called Sym-1. And because I'm pretty good at R6502 programming I've been trying to find one for a while. I've also got the processors that would be considered spares for Atari home video games, so when I find the time for it, I've got an idea to assemble a system in a (wait for it!) S-100 bus configuration. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8@gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 9:31 PM Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org wrote:
Here is what I mean by "Rockwell" https://www.vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=571 Yours don't look superficially like they're what I call Rockwell's, but FYI, what I have Bill
On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 9:11 PM Jonathan Chapman via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I finally herded together the extant pictures of the KIM-1s I've had in the past and did a writeup:
http://www.glitchwrks.com/2022/09/18/kim1-boards-past
TL;DR is that during college I found a KIM-1 in an employer's warehouse. Later, I found a box with five more! These were all Virginia Tech surplus, and one of them is likely the first KIM-1 used for classroom instruction there. I'd intended to sell some of them, since who needs six, right? Unfortunately, I was forced to sell all of them, including the one I'd intended to keep for myself, due to economic/financial situations after graduation.
I've never seen anyone post about these particular machines, and I haven't seen them exhibited at VCF East, VCF Midwest, or HOPE. None of the sellers contacted me about them after the sale concluded. Is anyone here the owner of one of these particular KIM-1s? Do you know the owner? Did you use KIM-1s while at Virginia Tech? Please let me know!
Thanks, Jonathan
-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
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