SGI Indigo help at tomorrow's workshop (Saturday)
Hi Everyone, I'm bringing my SGI Indigo to the workshop. Known working CPU, keyboard, RAM and hard drives. Possibly working mouse (likely). Two appropriate CD-ROM drives that don't seem to work (with caddies). I'm just trying to get IRIX installed so I can do some MIPS programming on real hardware. If any one can bring appropriate installation CDs and a known working external CD-ROM, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -Adam
I can 100% get you irix 6.5.22 installed on that, as I've done it many times. No cdrom required. Make sure you have an AAUI to 10bt adapter to get the indigo onto a local lan via ethernet 10bt and we can install you a full set w/ all dev tools and MIPS pro compliers and license. I will bring a serial cable and there is no need for K/M/V with serial- but you may want to see it. -andy
On Jan 11, 2019, at 9:20 AM, Adam Michlin via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
I'm bringing my SGI Indigo to the workshop. Known working CPU, keyboard, RAM and hard drives. Possibly working mouse (likely). Two appropriate CD-ROM drives that don't seem to work (with caddies).
I'm just trying to get IRIX installed so I can do some MIPS programming on real hardware. If any one can bring appropriate installation CDs and a known working external CD-ROM, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
-Adam
Wonderful! But I don't have a AAUI to 10bt adapter. Happy to buy one, but wont be able to get it by tomorrow and I'm pretty sure VCF doesn't have one in the warehouse. Anyone have one they can bring to the workshop? Thanks! -Adam On 1/11/2019 9:50 AM, dillera@gmail.com wrote:
I can 100% get you irix 6.5.22 installed on that, as I've done it many times. No cdrom required.
Make sure you have an AAUI to 10bt adapter to get the indigo onto a local lan via ethernet 10bt and we can install you a full set w/ all dev tools and MIPS pro compliers and license.
I will bring a serial cable and there is no need for K/M/V with serial- but you may want to see it.
-andy
On Jan 11, 2019, at 9:20 AM, Adam Michlin via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
I'm bringing my SGI Indigo to the workshop. Known working CPU, keyboard, RAM and hard drives. Possibly working mouse (likely). Two appropriate CD-ROM drives that don't seem to work (with caddies).
I'm just trying to get IRIX installed so I can do some MIPS programming on real hardware. If any one can bring appropriate installation CDs and a known working external CD-ROM, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
-Adam
i will bring one yes. -andy
On Jan 11, 2019, at 3:42 PM, Adam Michlin <amichlin@swerlin.com> wrote:
Wonderful!
But I don't have a AAUI to 10bt adapter. Happy to buy one, but wont be able to get it by tomorrow and I'm pretty sure VCF doesn't have one in the warehouse. Anyone have one they can bring to the workshop?
Thanks!
-Adam
On 1/11/2019 9:50 AM, dillera@gmail.com wrote:
I can 100% get you irix 6.5.22 installed on that, as I've done it many times. No cdrom required.
Make sure you have an AAUI to 10bt adapter to get the indigo onto a local lan via ethernet 10bt and we can install you a full set w/ all dev tools and MIPS pro compliers and license.
I will bring a serial cable and there is no need for K/M/V with serial- but you may want to see it.
-andy
On Jan 11, 2019, at 9:20 AM, Adam Michlin via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
I'm bringing my SGI Indigo to the workshop. Known working CPU, keyboard, RAM and hard drives. Possibly working mouse (likely). Two appropriate CD-ROM drives that don't seem to work (with caddies).
I'm just trying to get IRIX installed so I can do some MIPS programming on real hardware. If any one can bring appropriate installation CDs and a known working external CD-ROM, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
-Adam
But I don't have a AAUI to 10bt adapter. Happy to buy one, but wont be able to get it by tomorrow and I'm pretty sure VCF doesn't have one in the warehouse.
A couple of months ago, Ian and I started loading a pallet with "networking stuff". One of these days that pallet will be magically transformed into a shelving unit, and then such items will be neatly organized. So if we do have the necessary adapter, then that's where it will eventually live.
Sounds good, meanwhile I've have one to bring for Adam. -andy
On Jan 11, 2019, at 3:46 PM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
But I don't have a AAUI to 10bt adapter. Happy to buy one, but wont be able to get it by tomorrow and I'm pretty sure VCF doesn't have one in the warehouse.
A couple of months ago, Ian and I started loading a pallet with "networking stuff". One of these days that pallet will be magically transformed into a shelving unit, and then such items will be neatly organized. So if we do have the necessary adapter, then that's where it will eventually live.
Just to you... thanks again! Are you sure 6.* will work? I seem to remember that I was told this is one of earliest models of the SGI Indigo (maybe R3000?) and might only go work with 5.*? On 1/11/2019 3:51 PM, andy diller via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Sounds good, meanwhile I've have one to bring for Adam.
-andy
On Jan 11, 2019, at 3:46 PM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
But I don't have a AAUI to 10bt adapter. Happy to buy one, but wont be able to get it by tomorrow and I'm pretty sure VCF doesn't have one in the warehouse. A couple of months ago, Ian and I started loading a pallet with "networking stuff". One of these days that pallet will be magically transformed into a shelving unit, and then such items will be neatly organized. So if we do have the necessary adapter, then that's where it will eventually live.
Just to you... thanks again! Are you sure 6.* will work? I seem to remember that I was told this is one of earliest models of the SGI Indigo (maybe R3000?) and might only go work with 5.*?
If it is a R3K CPU board then your optical drive has to be 512 byte blocks, and you are limited to IRIX 5.3 I think. Check the left board by model #. - Ethan
True - If it's a R3k it will have to be 5.3. If it's a R4k it can be 6.5.22. You can tell by hinv in the PROM or by looking at the SIMM RAM- the R4k takes regular SIMMS, the R3k has larger proprietary SIMMS. We will install either 5.3 or 6.5 tomorrow via netbook - no CDROM is required. -andy
On Jan 11, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Ethan O'Toole via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Just to you... thanks again! Are you sure 6.* will work? I seem to remember that I was told this is one of earliest models of the SGI Indigo (maybe R3000?) and might only go work with 5.*?
If it is a R3K CPU board then your optical drive has to be 512 byte blocks, and you are limited to IRIX 5.3 I think.
Check the left board by model #.
- Ethan
Well I installed my Personal Iris 4D via netboot method and that worked. The indigo is newer. -andy
On Jan 11, 2019, at 4:16 PM, Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr@757.org> wrote:
We will install either 5.3 or 6.5 tomorrow via netbook - no CDROM is required. -andy
I thought I read somewhere that the R3K was wonky when it comes to netboot install?
- Ethan
Well I installed my Personal Iris 4D via netboot method and that worked. The indigo is newer. -andy
Cool beans then! I had published a repair for Indigo power supplies if they stop reporting the AC power status (Which causes a massive flood of AC power lost messages on console) on nekochan right before it died. The R3000 Indigo was my first SGI. I bought it from Reputable Systems in Colorado, used. It was expensive. I guess it paid off when I became a IRIX Admin @ NASA. Glad to see SGI getting all the recent love after years of slim interest. I was a huge SGI collector, owned most models except Origin 3000 series, 350, o2, fuel, tezro off the top of my head. Gave a lot of them away, sold some. Wish I could make it to the repair day! - Ethan
This is the original, which works but requires you to have all the ISOs- https://github.com/halfmanhalftaco/irixboot <https://github.com/halfmanhalftaco/irixboot> I use it for 5.3 This is the improved version with fetches the files and will even use ansible to do some admin/config post install! https://github.com/unxmaal/booterizer <https://github.com/unxmaal/booterizer> https://github.com/unxmaal/irix_ansible <https://github.com/unxmaal/irix_ansible> -andy
On Jan 11, 2019, at 7:08 PM, Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr@757.org> wrote:
Well I installed my Personal Iris 4D via netboot method and that worked. The indigo is newer. -andy
Cool beans then!
I had published a repair for Indigo power supplies if they stop reporting the AC power status (Which causes a massive flood of AC power lost messages on console) on nekochan right before it died.
The R3000 Indigo was my first SGI. I bought it from Reputable Systems in Colorado, used. It was expensive. I guess it paid off when I became a IRIX Admin @ NASA.
Glad to see SGI getting all the recent love after years of slim interest.
I was a huge SGI collector, owned most models except Origin 3000 series, 350, o2, fuel, tezro off the top of my head. Gave a lot of them away, sold some.
Wish I could make it to the repair day!
- Ethan
If we're having an ad-hoc SGI workshop :) then perhaps we can evaluate VCF's (small) SGI collection.
Lets do that, I'm becoming a SGI SME - and we can de-palletize some DEC stuff. I'll be around all day so I'll have plenty of time.
On Jan 11, 2019, at 4:47 PM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
If we're having an ad-hoc SGI workshop :) then perhaps we can evaluate VCF's (small) SGI collection.
The SGI Install area was actually a win, as we managed to go thru a bunch of drives and SCSI magic to get Adam's Indigo working with a fresh, full install of 5.3. We also pulled out the VCF's SGIs and discovered they have a Iris 4d, Indigo 1 R4k (may be elan) and a Teal Indigo2. I ran out of time, but I am targeting next Feb workshop to: - bring up some SCSI2SD drives for the VCF's SGI systems - boot them (if they work- we didn't test) - install fresh OS of 5.3 or 6.5.22 depending on RAM via my netboot (so no CDROM are required) If anyone else is interested in SGI please come up for Feb. I will also have my RS/6000 43P by then and will bring it to mess around with. I've gotten rid of 95% of my stuff (thanks for everyone that bid, won showed up and paid and took the stuff) and now I can focus on actual repair work and slow prepping for the festival. Some Photos: Adam logging into his Indigo for the very first time ever, with IRIX 5.3 Behind there you can see my MacBook, which was running the virtual server (debian box) that ran DHCP/BOOTP and TFTP which allowed a complete netboot and install on the SGIs. It will work with the Iris 4D, as I have one and the PROM is capable of doing it! See you Feb. -andy
On Jan 11, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Ethan O'Toole via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Just to you... thanks again! Are you sure 6.* will work? I seem to remember that I was told this is one of earliest models of the SGI Indigo (maybe R3000?) and might only go work with 5.*?
If it is a R3K CPU board then your optical drive has to be 512 byte blocks, and you are limited to IRIX 5.3 I think.
Check the left board by model #.
- Ethan
The SGI Install area was actually a win, as we managed to go thru a bunch of drives and SCSI magic to get Adam's Indigo working with a fresh, full install of 5.3.
Good job! Very cool.
We also pulled out the VCF's SGIs and discovered they have a Iris 4d, Indigo 1 R4k (may be elan) and a Teal Indigo2.
Not bad!
If anyone else is interested in SGI please come up for Feb.
Will see what my availability is. Was a huge SGI collector/hoarder but some stuff is a bit fuzzy these days. I had the SGI table at last VCF East. Oddly some SGIs I gave away came back to me, namely an Indy and Challenge S. I have a few add on boards for Indy/S (CPU, dual scsi mezz for Challenge S, etc.) Will see what I have and post list on here.
I will also have my RS/6000 43P by then and will bring it to mess around with. I've gotten rid of 95% of my stuff (thanks for everyone that bid, won showed up and paid and took the stuff) and now I can focus on actual repair work and slow prepping for the festival.
I am working to fine tune my collection as well. Huge lot of Amiga biz software just posted on English Amiga board after friend and myself bought three Amiga 4000T systems (wasn't cheap.)
I have three teal Indigo 2 computers. One with a fresh IRIX install, and two others in as-is condition. Perhaps I can bring them in February. I just need a reliable sync-on-green monitor and I have a 13w3 to VGA adapter. On Mon, Jan 14, 2019, 8:46 AM andy diller via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org wrote:
The SGI Install area was actually a win, as we managed to go thru a bunch of drives and SCSI magic to get Adam's Indigo working with a fresh, full install of 5.3.
We also pulled out the VCF's SGIs and discovered they have a Iris 4d, Indigo 1 R4k (may be elan) and a Teal Indigo2.
I ran out of time, but I am targeting next Feb workshop to:
- bring up some SCSI2SD drives for the VCF's SGI systems - boot them (if they work- we didn't test) - install fresh OS of 5.3 or 6.5.22 depending on RAM via my netboot (so no CDROM are required)
If anyone else is interested in SGI please come up for Feb.
I will also have my RS/6000 43P by then and will bring it to mess around with. I've gotten rid of 95% of my stuff (thanks for everyone that bid, won showed up and paid and took the stuff) and now I can focus on actual repair work and slow prepping for the festival.
Some Photos:
Adam logging into his Indigo for the very first time ever, with IRIX 5.3
Behind there you can see my MacBook, which was running the virtual server (debian box) that ran DHCP/BOOTP and TFTP which allowed a complete netboot and install on the SGIs. It will work with the Iris 4D, as I have one and the PROM is capable of doing it!
See you Feb.
-andy
On Jan 11, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Ethan O'Toole via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Just to you... thanks again! Are you sure 6.* will work? I seem to remember that I was told this is one of earliest models of the SGI Indigo (maybe R3000?) and might only go work with 5.*?
If it is a R3K CPU board then your optical drive has to be 512 byte blocks, and you are limited to IRIX 5.3 I think.
Check the left board by model #.
- Ethan
Bring them- at the very least I can bring my SOG Panel. If you need one- these are very nice Dell SOG (i know because that is what I use) for around $200 on Amazon today: https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywo... <https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=dell+U2412mb> -andy
On Jan 14, 2019, at 3:16 PM, Jeff Salzman via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I have three teal Indigo 2 computers. One with a fresh IRIX install, and two others in as-is condition. Perhaps I can bring them in February. I just need a reliable sync-on-green monitor and I have a 13w3 to VGA adapter.
On Mon, Jan 14, 2019, 8:46 AM andy diller via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org wrote:
The SGI Install area was actually a win, as we managed to go thru a bunch of drives and SCSI magic to get Adam's Indigo working with a fresh, full install of 5.3.
We also pulled out the VCF's SGIs and discovered they have a Iris 4d, Indigo 1 R4k (may be elan) and a Teal Indigo2.
I ran out of time, but I am targeting next Feb workshop to:
- bring up some SCSI2SD drives for the VCF's SGI systems - boot them (if they work- we didn't test) - install fresh OS of 5.3 or 6.5.22 depending on RAM via my netboot (so no CDROM are required)
If anyone else is interested in SGI please come up for Feb.
I will also have my RS/6000 43P by then and will bring it to mess around with. I've gotten rid of 95% of my stuff (thanks for everyone that bid, won showed up and paid and took the stuff) and now I can focus on actual repair work and slow prepping for the festival.
Some Photos:
Adam logging into his Indigo for the very first time ever, with IRIX 5.3
Behind there you can see my MacBook, which was running the virtual server (debian box) that ran DHCP/BOOTP and TFTP which allowed a complete netboot and install on the SGIs. It will work with the Iris 4D, as I have one and the PROM is capable of doing it!
See you Feb.
-andy
On Jan 11, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Ethan O'Toole via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Just to you... thanks again! Are you sure 6.* will work? I seem to remember that I was told this is one of earliest models of the SGI Indigo (maybe R3000?) and might only go work with 5.*?
If it is a R3K CPU board then your optical drive has to be 512 byte blocks, and you are limited to IRIX 5.3 I think.
Check the left board by model #.
- Ethan
Yes, a public thank you to Andy for saving my Indigo R3000! Now I just need to figure out how to install a C compiler on Irix 5.3. Not as easy as I expected! -Adam On 1/14/2019 8:46 AM, andy diller via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
The SGI Install area was actually a win, as we managed to go thru a bunch of drives and SCSI magic to get Adam's Indigo working with a fresh, full install of 5.3.
We also pulled out the VCF's SGIs and discovered they have a Iris 4d, Indigo 1 R4k (may be elan) and a Teal Indigo2.
I ran out of time, but I am targeting next Feb workshop to:
- bring up some SCSI2SD drives for the VCF's SGI systems - boot them (if they work- we didn't test) - install fresh OS of 5.3 or 6.5.22 depending on RAM via my netboot (so no CDROM are required)
If anyone else is interested in SGI please come up for Feb.
I will also have my RS/6000 43P by then and will bring it to mess around with. I've gotten rid of 95% of my stuff (thanks for everyone that bid, won showed up and paid and took the stuff) and now I can focus on actual repair work and slow prepping for the festival.
Some Photos:
Adam logging into his Indigo for the very first time ever, with IRIX 5.3
Behind there you can see my MacBook, which was running the virtual server (debian box) that ran DHCP/BOOTP and TFTP which allowed a complete netboot and install on the SGIs. It will work with the Iris 4D, as I have one and the PROM is capable of doing it!
See you Feb.
-andy
On Jan 11, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Ethan O'Toole via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Just to you... thanks again! Are you sure 6.* will work? I seem to remember that I was told this is one of earliest models of the SGI Indigo (maybe R3000?) and might only go work with 5.*? If it is a R3K CPU board then your optical drive has to be 512 byte blocks, and you are limited to IRIX 5.3 I think.
Check the left board by model #.
- Ethan
Oh man, wasn't the IRIX C compiler the one with an optimizer that ran O(n^3) time? Oughtta be fun there.
On Jan 14, 2019, at 8:56 PM, Adam Michlin via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Yes, a public thank you to Andy for saving my Indigo R3000!
Now I just need to figure out how to install a C compiler on Irix 5.3. Not as easy as I expected!
-Adam
Now I just need to figure out how to install a C compiler on Irix 5.3. Not as easy as I expected! -Adam
Step #1: Do you have Mips Pro for IRIX 5.3? If not, is it on archive.org? Step #2: Non-node locked license key for Mips Pro, or utility to change the hostid to match the node locked license key. - Ethan
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 3:48 PM Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
A couple of months ago, Ian and I started loading a pallet with "networking stuff". One of these days that pallet will be magically transformed into a shelving unit, and then such items will be neatly organized. So if we do have the necessary adapter, then that's where it will eventually live.
I love magic. Do you have any magicians to help you with that transformation? -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation
A couple of months ago, Ian and I started loading a pallet with "networking stuff". One of these days that pallet will be magically transformed into a shelving unit, and then such items will be neatly organized. So if we do have the necessary adapter, then that's where it will eventually live.
I love magic. Do you have any magicians to help you with that transformation?
Yes. It happens when board members approve shelving funds and when I get volunteers to help put the shelves together. :) Right now we have two unbuilt shelving units and I've got budget to buy four more, plus another one or two that we can assemble from spare parts. But there are higher priorities than networking gear for what gets sorted next.
Lets do all the things, hopefully we'll have enough people. I'm hoping the lure of my cheap and freebees is enough to bring out some people.
On Jan 11, 2019, at 4:50 PM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
A couple of months ago, Ian and I started loading a pallet with "networking stuff". One of these days that pallet will be magically transformed into a shelving unit, and then such items will be neatly organized. So if we do have the necessary adapter, then that's where it will eventually live.
I love magic. Do you have any magicians to help you with that transformation?
Yes. It happens when board members approve shelving funds and when I get volunteers to help put the shelves together. :)
Right now we have two unbuilt shelving units and I've got budget to buy four more, plus another one or two that we can assemble from spare parts. But there are higher priorities than networking gear for what gets sorted next.
-andy
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