Is there anyway to caps lock an ADM3a?
I know on the adm5 there is an actual caps lock key. On the 3a, I can’t seem to find it in the manuals other than setting the dip switch to upper case. Which is not practical. Thanks, Corey corey cohen uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ
I know you did your own research, but as far as I can see, most seemed to remap caps lock to escape, then instead use ctrl-[ to send esc to the computer. Dean On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:40 AM corey cohen via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
I know on the adm5 there is an actual caps lock key.
On the 3a, I can’t seem to find it in the manuals other than setting the dip switch to upper case. Which is not practical.
Thanks, Corey
corey cohen uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ
On Feb 13, 2018, at 7:02 AM, Dean Notarnicola <dnotarnicola@gmail.com> wrote:
I know you did your own research, but as far as I can see, most seemed to remap caps lock to escape, then instead use ctrl-[ to send esc to the computer.
Dean
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:40 AM corey cohen via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote: I know on the adm5 there is an actual caps lock key.
On the 3a, I can’t seem to find it in the manuals other than setting the dip switch to upper case. Which is not practical.
Thanks, Corey
corey cohen uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ
How do they remap? Rewire or is there a dip switch setting I’m not understanding? Thanks, Corey
Someone with more experience in this than me may have a better answer, but as far as I can see it’s modifying the termcap entries on the different systems you’re connecting to. On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:49 AM corey cohen <coreyvcf@gmail.com> wrote:
On Feb 13, 2018, at 7:02 AM, Dean Notarnicola <dnotarnicola@gmail.com> wrote:
I know you did your own research, but as far as I can see, most seemed to remap caps lock to escape, then instead use ctrl-[ to send esc to the computer.
Dean
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:40 AM corey cohen via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
I know on the adm5 there is an actual caps lock key.
On the 3a, I can’t seem to find it in the manuals other than setting the dip switch to upper case. Which is not practical.
Thanks, Corey
corey cohen uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ
How do they remap? Rewire or is there a dip switch setting I’m not understanding? Thanks, Corey
On Feb 13, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Dean Notarnicola <dnotarnicola@gmail.com> wrote:
Someone with more experience in this than me may have a better answer, but as far as I can see it’s modifying the termcap entries on the different systems you’re connecting to.
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:49 AM corey cohen <coreyvcf@gmail.com> wrote:
On Feb 13, 2018, at 7:02 AM, Dean Notarnicola <dnotarnicola@gmail.com> wrote:
I know you did your own research, but as far as I can see, most seemed to remap caps lock to escape, then instead use ctrl-[ to send esc to the computer.
Dean
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:40 AM corey cohen via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote: I know on the adm5 there is an actual caps lock key.
On the 3a, I can’t seem to find it in the manuals other than setting the dip switch to upper case. Which is not practical.
Thanks, Corey
corey cohen uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ
How do they remap? Rewire or is there a dip switch setting I’m not understanding? Thanks, Corey
Don’t think that will work on a 1975 ALTAIR, guess that’s what people are doing who hook up to a Linux box or raspberryPi.
WHY WOULD YOU WANT CAPS LOCK, ANYWAY? just curious. Bill Dudley This email is free of malware because I run Linux. On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 9:37 AM, corey cohen via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On Feb 13, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Dean Notarnicola <dnotarnicola@gmail.com> wrote:
Someone with more experience in this than me may have a better answer, but as far as I can see it’s modifying the termcap entries on the different systems you’re connecting to.
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:49 AM corey cohen <coreyvcf@gmail.com> wrote:
On Feb 13, 2018, at 7:02 AM, Dean Notarnicola <dnotarnicola@gmail.com> wrote:
I know you did your own research, but as far as I can see, most seemed to remap caps lock to escape, then instead use ctrl-[ to send esc to the computer.
Dean
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:40 AM corey cohen via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote: I know on the adm5 there is an actual caps lock key.
On the 3a, I can’t seem to find it in the manuals other than setting the dip switch to upper case. Which is not practical.
Thanks, Corey
corey cohen uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ
How do they remap? Rewire or is there a dip switch setting I’m not understanding? Thanks, Corey
Don’t think that will work on a 1975 ALTAIR, guess that’s what people are doing who hook up to a Linux box or raspberryPi.
The original ADM3a's they only had capital letters until one bought and installed the mixed case ROM upgrade, right? On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 9:45 AM, William Dudley via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
WHY WOULD YOU WANT CAPS LOCK, ANYWAY?
just curious.
Bill Dudley
This email is free of malware because I run Linux.
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 9:37 AM, corey cohen via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On Feb 13, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Dean Notarnicola <dnotarnicola@gmail.com> wrote:
Someone with more experience in this than me may have a better answer, but as far as I can see it’s modifying the termcap entries on the
different
systems you’re connecting to.
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:49 AM corey cohen <coreyvcf@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Feb 13, 2018, at 7:02 AM, Dean Notarnicola <
dnotarnicola@gmail.com> wrote:
I know you did your own research, but as far as I can see, most
seemed to remap caps lock to escape, then instead use ctrl-[ to send esc to the computer.
Dean
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:40 AM corey cohen via vcf-midatlantic <
vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
I know on the adm5 there is an actual caps lock key.
On the 3a, I can’t seem to find it in the manuals other than setting the dip switch to upper case. Which is not practical.
Thanks, Corey
corey cohen uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ
How do they remap? Rewire or is there a dip switch setting I’m not understanding? Thanks, Corey
Don’t think that will work on a 1975 ALTAIR, guess that’s what people are doing who hook up to a Linux box or raspberryPi.
Yes, I remember that the stock character ROM was upper case. I installed lower case ROMs in my ADM3 back in the day. I still remember the funny non-descending 'j', 'y', and 'g' in that ROM. But the caps lock key controls transmitted characters, not displayed characters. Why would one want to write everything in all upper case, regardless of what the ADM3A displays? I imagine that there were languages/computers that only worked with upper case, but I wanted to know if there was a specific use-case that corey had in mind. I think that CPM didn't much care about case, for example. I used (and hacked) that extensively. Bill Dudley This email is free of malware because I run Linux. On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
The original ADM3a's they only had capital letters until one bought and installed the mixed case ROM upgrade, right?
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 9:45 AM, William Dudley via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
WHY WOULD YOU WANT CAPS LOCK, ANYWAY?
just curious.
Bill Dudley
This email is free of malware because I run Linux.
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 9:37 AM, corey cohen via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On Feb 13, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Dean Notarnicola <
dnotarnicola@gmail.com>
wrote:
Someone with more experience in this than me may have a better
answer, but as far as I can see it’s modifying the termcap entries on the different systems you’re connecting to.
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:49 AM corey cohen <coreyvcf@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Feb 13, 2018, at 7:02 AM, Dean Notarnicola <
dnotarnicola@gmail.com> wrote:
I know you did your own research, but as far as I can see, most
seemed to remap caps lock to escape, then instead use ctrl-[ to send esc to the computer.
Dean
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:40 AM corey cohen via vcf-midatlantic <
vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
> I know on the adm5 there is an actual caps lock key. > > On the 3a, I can’t seem to find it in the manuals other than setting the dip switch to upper case. Which is not practical. > > Thanks, > Corey > > corey cohen > uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ
How do they remap? Rewire or is there a dip switch setting I’m not understanding? Thanks, Corey
Don’t think that will work on a 1975 ALTAIR, guess that’s what people are doing who hook up to a Linux box or raspberryPi.
The reason for caps lock is that I swapped out my ADM5 for the matching blue ADM3 on my ALTAIR and very early versions of basic are uppercase only. Otherwise I have to set my ADM to uppercase all the time. corey cohen uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ
On Feb 13, 2018, at 11:18 AM, William Dudley via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
Yes, I remember that the stock character ROM was upper case. I installed lower case ROMs in my ADM3 back in the day. I still remember the funny non-descending 'j', 'y', and 'g' in that ROM.
But the caps lock key controls transmitted characters, not displayed characters. Why would one want to write everything in all upper case, regardless of what the ADM3A displays?
I imagine that there were languages/computers that only worked with upper case, but I wanted to know if there was a specific use-case that corey had in mind.
I think that CPM didn't much care about case, for example. I used (and hacked) that extensively.
Bill Dudley
This email is free of malware because I run Linux.
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
The original ADM3a's they only had capital letters until one bought and installed the mixed case ROM upgrade, right?
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 9:45 AM, William Dudley via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
WHY WOULD YOU WANT CAPS LOCK, ANYWAY?
just curious.
Bill Dudley
This email is free of malware because I run Linux.
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 9:37 AM, corey cohen via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On Feb 13, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Dean Notarnicola <
dnotarnicola@gmail.com>
wrote:
Someone with more experience in this than me may have a better
answer, but as far as I can see it’s modifying the termcap entries on the different systems you’re connecting to.
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:49 AM corey cohen <coreyvcf@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Feb 13, 2018, at 7:02 AM, Dean Notarnicola <
dnotarnicola@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I know you did your own research, but as far as I can see, most seemed to remap caps lock to escape, then instead use ctrl-[ to send esc to the computer. > > Dean > >> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:40 AM corey cohen via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote: >> I know on the adm5 there is an actual caps lock key. >> >> On the 3a, I can’t seem to find it in the manuals other than setting the dip switch to upper case. Which is not practical. >> >> Thanks, >> Corey >> >> corey cohen >> uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ
How do they remap? Rewire or is there a dip switch setting I’m not understanding? Thanks, Corey
Don’t think that will work on a 1975 ALTAIR, guess that’s what people are doing who hook up to a Linux box or raspberryPi.
Yes all you have to do is add two 2102 ram chips and a lower case version of the 2513 character generator. I got my chip from Wendell Sander who got it from the last of Mike Willegal’s stash. corey cohen uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ
On Feb 13, 2018, at 10:36 AM, Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
The original ADM3a's they only had capital letters until one bought and installed the mixed case ROM upgrade, right?
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 9:45 AM, William Dudley via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
WHY WOULD YOU WANT CAPS LOCK, ANYWAY?
just curious.
Bill Dudley
This email is free of malware because I run Linux.
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 9:37 AM, corey cohen via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On Feb 13, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Dean Notarnicola <dnotarnicola@gmail.com> wrote:
Someone with more experience in this than me may have a better answer, but as far as I can see it’s modifying the termcap entries on the
different
systems you’re connecting to.
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:49 AM corey cohen <coreyvcf@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Feb 13, 2018, at 7:02 AM, Dean Notarnicola <
dnotarnicola@gmail.com> wrote:
I know you did your own research, but as far as I can see, most
seemed to remap caps lock to escape, then instead use ctrl-[ to send esc to the computer.
Dean
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:40 AM corey cohen via vcf-midatlantic <
vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
> I know on the adm5 there is an actual caps lock key. > > On the 3a, I can’t seem to find it in the manuals other than setting the dip switch to upper case. Which is not practical. > > Thanks, > Corey > > corey cohen > uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ
How do they remap? Rewire or is there a dip switch setting I’m not understanding? Thanks, Corey
Don’t think that will work on a 1975 ALTAIR, guess that’s what people are doing who hook up to a Linux box or raspberryPi.
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