Huge thanks to Jonanthan Sturges for the donation of a Hakko 470. It is quiet and works /really/ well. That will get a lot of mileage. I used it and immediately clogged it but managed to get it cleaned out. This will give me a chance to clean up the Cheap Chinese desoldering station from a few years ago. Need to get the smaller tips on that one. -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies KD2ZRQ