Eh. I'd even be okay trying that. Depends on the gear. If it was something unique I'd write it into the properties contract that it has to be returned in the condition it was sent out. Still might be fun "THATS MY MODEL 100!". -d On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 6:11 PM Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:

On 5/28/22 17:55, Dave Shevett via vcf-midatlantic wrote:

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I've always wanted to be in the business of providing these old machines to movies and tv shows. I've sort of half-started putting something together for this, but I have NO CLUE how to get onto the 'i can get this stuff for you and make it work' radar of studios.

The trouble with this is that none of them will let you remain on-site during their use, and the hardware comes back beat to shit. This isn't always the case, but it has happened over and over.

-Dave

-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

-- Dave Shevett shevett@pobox.com

My teletypes can be seen in the movie "the good shepherd" and the TV series "the good girls revolt" Pix here: https://w2hx.com/?prefix=x/TTY/GoodGirlsRevolt/ but alas, no credits! 73 Eugene W2HX Subscribe to my Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/w2hx-channel/videos -----Original Message----- From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org> On Behalf Of Mike Loewen via vcf-midatlantic Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2022 6:57 PM To: Dave Shevett via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Cc: Mike Loewen <mloewen@cpumagic.scol.pa.us> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] A lot of old computers in Stranger things I once owned this panel from "Earth II": http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/Panels/Airlock-3L.jpg Screenshot from the movie: http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/Panels/Earth_II-1.jpg I traded it back to the original owner for a panel from the SAGE system, from the same prop house: http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/SAGE/Power1-L.jpg On Sat, 28 May 2022, Dave Shevett via vcf-midatlantic wrote:

Eh. I'd even be okay trying that. Depends on the gear. If it was something unique I'd write it into the properties contract that it has to be returned in the condition it was sent out. Still might be fun "THATS MY MODEL 100!".

-d

On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 6:11 PM Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:

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On 5/28/22 17:55, Dave Shevett via vcf-midatlantic wrote:

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I've always wanted to be in the business of providing these old machines to movies and tv shows. I've sort of half-started putting something together for this, but I have NO CLUE how to get onto the 'i can get this stuff for you and make it work' radar of studios.

The trouble with this is that none of them will let you remain on-site during their use, and the hardware comes back beat to shit. This isn't always the case, but it has happened over and over.

-Dave

-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

-- Dave Shevett shevett@pobox.com

Mike Loewen mloewen@cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/

Well there is that. ;) -Dave On 5/28/22 18:14, Dave Shevett wrote:

Eh.  I'd even be okay trying that.  Depends on the gear.  If it was something unique I'd write it into the properties contract that it has to be returned in the condition it was sent out.  Still might be fun "THATS MY MODEL 100!".

 -d

On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 6:11 PM Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org <mailto:vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org>> wrote:

On 5/28/22 17:55, Dave Shevett via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > I've always wanted to be in the business of providing these old machines to > movies and tv shows.  I've sort of half-started putting something together > for this, but I have NO CLUE how to get onto the 'i can get this stuff for > you and make it work' radar of studios.

   The trouble with this is that none of them will let you remain on-site during their use, and the hardware comes back beat to shit. This isn't always the case, but it has happened over and over.

              -Dave

-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

-- Dave Shevett shevett@pobox.com <mailto:shevett@pobox.com>

-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

Oh i know that they are rarely showing what's 'on the screen'- if you look at any behind the scenes shots of movies, they always have a green overlay with tracking marks on the screens. I really do wonder at what point CGI will happily just stencil in a VT100 terminal, rather than get an old one and 'greenscreen' an ssh session :) On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 6:33 PM Ethan O'Toole via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:

To be clear, they add the content on TVs in post I guess.

Ethan

On Sat, 28 May 2022, Ethan O'Toole via vcf-midatlantic wrote:

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I sold them a Sony PVM-2030. They said they have others, so can't be sure it was mine... but I definitely saw one or two of them in a scene. Had the bezel controls lit and all. It was non functioning, hope to find a working one in future.

Its in lab scene. Will post frame grabs.

Ethan

On Sat, 28 May 2022, Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic wrote:

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I'm enjoying all the old computers in Stranger things. So far I saw a Kaypro, an Amiga 1000 and. Tandy

-- Dave Shevett shevett@pobox.com

Nice and sturdy! On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 7:05 PM Ethan O'Toole via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:

Well it is theirs now I guess. Not 100% sure screen used was mine but Sony PVM-2030

I took the selfies with it before I shipped it, Feb 2021.

3 pics: https://imgur.com/a/WKJhHaJ s04e05 t22:00ish for the one frame on tv

And that sweet polo I was wearing.

Would love to consult on this stuff. S4 was great but a few small technical hmmmms there :-) Won't give away any plot.

I binged it all while recapping a Roland Juno-106.

Ethan

On Sat, 28 May 2022, Dave Shevett wrote:

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Oh i know that they are rarely showing what's 'on the screen'- if you look at any behind the scenes shots of movies, they always have a green overlay with tracking marks on the screens. I really do wonder at what point CGI will happily just stencil in a VT100 terminal, rather than get an old one and 'greenscreen' an ssh session :)

On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 6:33 PM Ethan O'Toole via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:

To be clear, they add the content on TVs in post I guess.

Ethan

On Sat, 28 May 2022, Ethan O'Toole via vcf-midatlantic wrote:

> I sold them a Sony PVM-2030. They said they have others, > so can't be sure it was mine... but I definitely saw one > or two of them in a scene. Had the bezel controls lit and > all. It was non functioning, hope to find a working one > in future. > > Its in lab scene. Will post frame grabs. > > Ethan > > On Sat, 28 May 2022, Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic > wrote: > >> I'm enjoying all the old computers in Stranger things. >> So far I saw a >> Kaypro, an Amiga 1000 and. Tandy >> >

-- Dave Shevett shevett@pobox.com

I know that the larger screen cubes were used in the airport (Newark) for flight information, stacked, for years. I have the 20” cube ( with the original speakers) that I use regularly. I wish I had the larger version though . Mike R. Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.

On May 28, 2022, at 9:14 PM, Ethan O'Toole via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:



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Nice and sturdy!

Indeed! That is part of what is special about that television monitor, there is this cube frame thing around it. It allows them to be be carried kind of easily, and it allows them to be stacked into a video wall. But I am not sure if they can handle being stacked like that (I notice on arcade games when they are side by side you have to degauss them and sometimes that doesn't work. The image is warped by other nearby monitors.

See my next post for my love-hate about that monitor!

I got one of those monitors, too. HEAVY is one word for it. Mine has severe pincushion when first powered up, but that clears up in a few minutes. I want to use the DB-25 analog RGB port to display my Amiga output.

Indeed! When I was a young lad there was this computer store in Chesapeake VA called Video Computer Retailers (VCR) or something. They were the Amiga pitchmen, and they had one of these TVs and would hook it to their Amiga 2000 and run that Walker demo and stuff. I was in love with the design. I love the buttons down the side, and the whole style. The 20" 2030 was my 2nd one, I had a 25" 2530 I bought off of eBay or some for-sale site back in Virginia Beach/Norfolk. That one was larger. Local pickup, "mostly worked" but didn't really. The 1st one, there was some kind of flyback issue where originally it would only tube on once every 15 power attempts. Then it got less. So my enthusiasm waned, and I sold it. It was in the back of my mind always that I would get another one. A friend got his hands on the PVM-2030 that I had, that eventually ended up on Stranger Things. I got it "broken" but it seemed to work. But there was a few issues. The 2030 is the 20" model, there is a 2530 model. There was also a high end consumer model, and as a kid I had the brochure for that. Most people don't know about this consumer model though. NEC has a clone, which I think would be really cool -- it might be a better set and I would love to mess with the NEC version. And there might be a 27" model which was later, or in a follow up series to the 2530/2030 On the 20" monitor the high voltage wire comes from the flyback through this other block where it taps the high voltage for something. I had to fix that on mine. And everything seemed pretty good. It never seemed to leak, it never seemed to arc. It was solid, no cracks, etc. I had to rotate the yoke a little to straighten out the picture. During this I found that the schematics for the 2030 aren't in the wild that I could find, but the schematics for the 2530 are. BUT... the 2530 model has an additional board (maybe on the rear) that contains additional potentiometers for adjustments of the image. The 20" doesn't have this, and it kind of hurts. Also, on mine, the convergence was off a bit on the lower half. Pretty badly. I never tried to mess with magnets. While I have worked on a lot of CRTs, I still am slightly nervous messing with them powered. But the thing was, it was running fine then I heard an arc inside and it blew out the vertical hold. The VHold pot did nothing, and without schematics for that set and the general inability to get jungle ICs and the like I just figured I didn't have time to fix. Plus I was bringing home a lot of other stuff, and a large backlog of things that needed work. I asked my friend who gave it to me if it was okay if I sold it, and said I would put the money towards buying another one that worked. Threw it on craigslist and eventually it was purchased for ST. They couldn't tell me the show (understandable) but I was able to figure it out. Also, I would get a broken english email from someone every once in a while via CL calling me an idiot and a moron for trying to sell a CRT for so much when LCDs were much cheaper, bigger and new. I still love the sets and figure I will get one in the future. But there is good and bad. They are really old TVs, they were early in the model line of the PVMs -- and this is apparent. The later Sony PVMs BLOW IT AWAY. Picture quality, controls, everything. Just remember that. They get A+++++ for style, but more like a D for the actual picture and stuff in my opinion. They don't have internal speakers, there are sexy speakers that attach to the side. It has an audio amp with clippys like an old boom box would have. The speakers are the Sony flat and square style speakers though. Hot, but you will have to search for them. They are rare. It has good connections of course. As mentioned, RGB on a DB25 and BNCs and svideo and all that. No TV tuner. The 20" model doesn't have the additional picture quality adjustments that the 25 has. And I think there is a 27" or something that might be a later model, not sure how better that gets. A friend got the 27" model for $10 from a thrift store, and did so while we were on slack chattering about them. Most random thing ever. "Oh I just bought one of those for $9.99 at the thrift. <selfie with it>" I offered $20 but he wouldn't sell. There are no on screen displays. You can sit there with those sexy buttons down the left and right and adjust the image to get it minty. But there is no way to tell what those settings are unless you count how many times you hit each button. And top left button as I recall, one press and everything resets to 0. It's active when the illumination is off or on. There is a button that turns off and on the backlight for the controls. That and the cube frame around the back is what make it so hot and stylish in the design. My friends have newer Sony PVMs and BVMs and they blow them away in picture quality just because they are built later. The newer ones can do undercan and overscan and 480p and all this other stuff. Better tech. But they can't stand on theirs (note, only stand on the frame in the back not the front.) Oh man, I found the original pics of me tuning up the 2030. You can see where things are off a bit: https://imgur.com/a/LSjprvG Now I want another one. Damnit. But after I get a bigger place.