There's a newish project on Crowdsuppy that I thought the group might find interesting: https://www.crowdsupply.com/andy-haas/haasoscope It's an open hardware/open source DSO, based on an Altera MAX10 FPGA. It seems to be much more capable than the DSO Nano, and the other mini scopes that I have seen. What does anyone think? - Alex
On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 11:24:03PM -0500, J. Alexander Jacocks via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
There's a newish project on Crowdsuppy that I thought the group might find interesting:
https://www.crowdsupply.com/andy-haas/haasoscope
... What does anyone think?
It all depends on that you want to do with it. This is written assuming you are troublshooting old computers. You need sufficient bandwidth to view your signal of intrest and sufficient sample rate to make it look reasonable. Sampling twice the frequency of a sine wave captures the information but it doesn't look like one. There are ways to help the display some with signal processing though I don't think it does that. Couple pages discussing http://www.ni.com/white-paper/4333/en/] https://www.tek.com/document/online/primer/xyzs-scopes/ch3/evaluating-oscill... I think the sample rate will be the bigest limitation. You will need to see the characteristing of signals you will want to look at. For troubleshooting old equipment the degredation of the signal edges is normally not as big an issue. The faults are normally not that subtle but I have run across glitches on signals causing trouble that the low sample rate can hide. The +-5V and +- 500 mV is somewhat limiting but ok for looking at normal TTL signals. For checking ripple on power supplies or analog work may not be. Its onboard display option doesn't seem to have sufficient size or resolution to be useful so I think you will always need some sort of computer to use it. Being able to grow to more channels is interesting though four is useually enough. I have a 2 channel Rigol and four would be nice at times. I didn't see enough to evaluate how the software is. Like always poor software can make anything a pain to use. It says it supports various triggering without giving specifics. A reasonable update rate is needed for seeing intermittent problems. I would get the high speed readout. Its unclear how many waveforms per second that gives you.
David, I use a Tek TDS380, but I was more thinking of this scope as an interesting open source project for someone who didn’t already have a scope, and who enjoys hacking. I do love to see open source hardware projects that serve a useful purpose. - Alex On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 17:17 David Gesswein via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 11:24:03PM -0500, J. Alexander Jacocks via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
There's a newish project on Crowdsuppy that I thought the group might find interesting:
https://www.crowdsupply.com/andy-haas/haasoscope
... What does anyone think?
It all depends on that you want to do with it. This is written assuming you are troublshooting old computers.
You need sufficient bandwidth to view your signal of intrest and sufficient sample rate to make it look reasonable. Sampling twice the frequency of a sine wave captures the information but it doesn't look like one. There are ways to help the display some with signal processing though I don't think it does that.
Couple pages discussing http://www.ni.com/white-paper/4333/en/]
https://www.tek.com/document/online/primer/xyzs-scopes/ch3/evaluating-oscill...
I think the sample rate will be the bigest limitation. You will need to see the characteristing of signals you will want to look at.
For troubleshooting old equipment the degredation of the signal edges is normally not as big an issue. The faults are normally not that subtle but I have run across glitches on signals causing trouble that the low sample rate can hide.
The +-5V and +- 500 mV is somewhat limiting but ok for looking at normal TTL signals. For checking ripple on power supplies or analog work may not be.
Its onboard display option doesn't seem to have sufficient size or resolution to be useful so I think you will always need some sort of computer to use it.
Being able to grow to more channels is interesting though four is useually enough. I have a 2 channel Rigol and four would be nice at times.
I didn't see enough to evaluate how the software is. Like always poor software can make anything a pain to use. It says it supports various triggering without giving specifics.
A reasonable update rate is needed for seeing intermittent problems. I would get the high speed readout. Its unclear how many waveforms per second that gives you.
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