Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Old Video Game Advertisements - VCF Exhibiting
On August 8, 2022 4:15:31 PM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
This is the main reason why I have not exhibited in the past or possibly not in the future. I’ve considered two separate exhibits, I put to much consideration into the flack or “peer pressure”.
Exhibiting is about sharing what YOU love and what YOU want to show off. If you're lucky, someone will enjoy it. If you're even luckier, you'll spark a new interest for someone. There should never be any sort of "peer pressure" or anything even remotely like it in this environment. But everyone will know you're a weenie if you bring a Commodore. B-) (Dave runs for cover) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
On 8/8/2022 4:44 PM, Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
On August 8, 2022 4:15:31 PM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
This is the main reason why I have not exhibited in the past or possibly not in the future. I’ve considered two separate exhibits, I put to much consideration into the flack or “peer pressure”.
Exhibiting is about sharing what YOU love and what YOU want to show off. If you're lucky, someone will enjoy it. If you're even luckier, you'll spark a new interest for someone. There should never be any sort of "peer pressure" or anything even remotely like it in this environment.
But everyone will know you're a weenie if you bring a Commodore. B-)
(Dave runs for cover)
KA-BOOM! 6502 baby, 4-ever! Sixer for life!
-Dave
-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
YES, everything Dave said. Well, almost, forget that f&^%$ Commodore comment. On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 4:44 PM Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
On August 8, 2022 4:15:31 PM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
This is the main reason why I have not exhibited in the past or possibly not in the future. I’ve considered two separate exhibits, I put to much consideration into the flack or “peer pressure”.
Exhibiting is about sharing what YOU love and what YOU want to show off. If you're lucky, someone will enjoy it. If you're even luckier, you'll spark a new interest for someone. There should never be any sort of "peer pressure" or anything even remotely like it in this environment.
But everyone will know you're a weenie if you bring a Commodore. B-)
(Dave runs for cover)
-Dave
-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
I agree, but as part of the community don't crap on other peoples displays. If you don't like it, move along. There are many others there you might like. If you think something is inaccurate or maybe they could use more information to enhance it. That's fine. There is a difference between constructive criticism and plain crapping on someone''s hard work. Agreed? On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 4:45 PM Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Exhibiting is about sharing what YOU love and what YOU want to show off. If you're lucky, someone will enjoy it. If you're even luckier, you'll spark a new interest for someone. There should never be any sort of "peer pressure" or anything even remotely like it in this environment.
Agreed. Anyone who feels the need to offer negative criticism is invited to do their own exhibit and show everyone how clever they are. On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 7:52 AM Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I agree, but as part of the community don't crap on other peoples displays.
If you don't like it, move along. There are many others there you might like.
If you think something is inaccurate or maybe they could use more information to enhance it. That's fine.
There is a difference between constructive criticism and plain crapping on someone''s hard work.
Agreed?
On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 4:45 PM Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Exhibiting is about sharing what YOU love and what YOU want to show off. If you're lucky, someone will enjoy it. If you're even luckier, you'll spark a new interest for someone. There should never be any sort of "peer pressure" or anything even remotely like it in this environment.
Yeah, well I'll just make my *own* exhibit! With blackjack! And hookers! Seriously though, how do you strike that balance between getting attention vs. framing a complete and factual picture of the subject in an exhibit? You can provide a novel experience by way of something they've never interacted with before (paper tape, new gadgets for old kit, freshly made software, a type of terminal graphics that stand out). Or perchance a familiar/nostalgic experience "I used one of these at a job I had X many years back", "I don't know this machine, but it runs BASIC, I wonder what I can get it to do?", that sort of thing. If you present something completely unfamiliar, you have to give visitors something to relate to, otherwise they'll keep walking. Run a video game, suddenly it becomes relatable to a larger audience, and there's your hook to give them the context. Because these experiences don't exist in a vacuum, they're part of a larger tapestry of history we're trying to share with a mixed audience of newcomers and established hobbyists alike. It's funny how some of the more common machines get so little love from the crowd when given a properly framed exhibit of a computer in its element. Whereas other times, just seeing a base machine that folks recognize but never see in person attracts attention like they were giving away free donuts. Still, even if one feels like the exhibit concept they want to bring won't draw a crowd, it saddens me to hear when someone is dissuaded from exhibiting because either staff or general attendees made them feel like they shouldn't do something perfectly acceptable, or that they were doing it wrong. And I'm not talking about the blatantly off-topic exhibit subjects. I'm talking about giving folks the opportunity to try exhibiting something in a new way and possibly even fail at that task, because sometimes that's how it goes. Anyway, it's your VCF, so you might as well actively shape it in a positive direction. -Alexander 'Z' Pierson On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 09:19:29 AM EDT, Dean Notarnicola via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote: Agreed. Anyone who feels the need to offer negative criticism is invited to do their own exhibit and show everyone how clever they are. On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 7:52 AM Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I agree, but as part of the community don't crap on other peoples displays.
If you don't like it, move along. There are many others there you might like.
If you think something is inaccurate or maybe they could use more information to enhance it. That's fine.
There is a difference between constructive criticism and plain crapping on someone''s hard work.
Agreed?
On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 4:45 PM Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Exhibiting is about sharing what YOU love and what YOU want to show off. If you're lucky, someone will enjoy it. If you're even luckier, you'll spark a new interest for someone. There should never be any sort of "peer pressure" or anything even remotely like it in this environment.
Yep. That too. On 8/9/2022 7:51 AM, Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I agree, but as part of the community don't crap on other peoples displays.
If you don't like it, move along. There are many others there you might like.
If you think something is inaccurate or maybe they could use more information to enhance it. That's fine.
There is a difference between constructive criticism and plain crapping on someone''s hard work.
Agreed?
On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 4:45 PM Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Exhibiting is about sharing what YOU love and what YOU want to show off. If you're lucky, someone will enjoy it. If you're even luckier, you'll spark a new interest for someone. There should never be any sort of "peer pressure" or anything even remotely like it in this environment.
I agree, but as part of the community don't crap on other peoples displays. If you don't like it, move along. There are many others there you might like. If you think something is inaccurate or maybe they could use more information to enhance it. That's fine. There is a difference between constructive criticism and plain crapping on someone''s hard work. Agreed?
I did a SGI exhibit a few years ago but didn't run any games :-( I didn't know about the earlier stuff. I got called out for not having the 3d filesystem browser though. Speaking of that.... There is a newer Stern pinball machine -- Jurrasic Park. In the animations on the LCD screen, one of them looks like Buttonfly (and you navigate left/right with the flipper buttons) and there is another screen that looks like gr_osview and an IRIX 4dwm terminal window. The Stern JP pinball is from 2018/2019 timeframe. I was thinking, IRIX made it into a pinball machine. - Ethan
Hello! Speaking for myself, when it came to gaming on the Apple I admit I did play a few, and did too much programming on one. Therefore, I support the idea of you Chrisitan returning to next year's show to exhibit your SGI cluster. And at the last show a pair exhibited the development examples for various machines. Incidentally Dave the crowd of Yeti are taking next week off, something about elections. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8@gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 7:52 AM Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I agree, but as part of the community don't crap on other peoples displays.
If you don't like it, move along. There are many others there you might like.
If you think something is inaccurate or maybe they could use more information to enhance it. That's fine.
There is a difference between constructive criticism and plain crapping on someone''s hard work.
Agreed?
On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 4:45 PM Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Exhibiting is about sharing what YOU love and what YOU want to show off. If you're lucky, someone will enjoy it. If you're even luckier, you'll spark a new interest for someone. There should never be any sort of "peer pressure" or anything even remotely like it in this environment.
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Gregg Levine