Do a stack of ESIX System V disks mean anything to anybody here? My understanding is that it's Unix System V for AT&T. I am unable to read the disk contents outside of a PC disk drive.
From this website: http://www.ugu.com/sui/ugu/show?I=esix&F=1111111111&G=Y
"*ESIX* - Esix System V Release 4.0 unifies all major versions and derivatives of UNIX such as AT&T System V Release 3.2, Berkeley Software Distribution (BSD) 4.2 and 4.3, SCO UNIX 3.2, and Microsoft XENIX. In addition, key features of Sun Microsystems SunOS™ have been incorporated. " On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 4:22 PM Jeff Salzman via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Do a stack of ESIX System V disks mean anything to anybody here? My understanding is that it's Unix System V for AT&T. I am unable to read the disk contents outside of a PC disk drive.
Sounds like a repair day project. - andy diller
On Sep 6, 2019, at 4:43 PM, Dean Notarnicola via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
From this website: http://www.ugu.com/sui/ugu/show?I=esix&F=1111111111&G=Y
"*ESIX* - Esix System V Release 4.0 unifies all major versions and derivatives of UNIX such as AT&T System V Release 3.2, Berkeley Software Distribution (BSD) 4.2 and 4.3, SCO UNIX 3.2, and Microsoft XENIX. In addition, key features of Sun Microsystems SunOS™ have been incorporated. "
On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 4:22 PM Jeff Salzman via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Do a stack of ESIX System V disks mean anything to anybody here? My understanding is that it's Unix System V for AT&T. I am unable to read the disk contents outside of a PC disk drive.
Wow. If all of that is true, then this would seem to be a very desirable unix system. Maybe even the holy grail of unixes. However the devil is in the details. Maybe it had some flaws? I hadn't heard of it, but with those collection of features, you would think it would be extremely well known (maybe it is, maybe I'm cloistered) 73 Eugene W2HX ________________________________________ From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org> on behalf of Dean Notarnicola via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 4:43 PM To: Jeff Salzman via vcf-midatlantic Cc: Dean Notarnicola Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] ESIX System V
From this website: http://www.ugu.com/sui/ugu/show?I=esix&F=1111111111&G=Y
"*ESIX* - Esix System V Release 4.0 unifies all major versions and derivatives of UNIX such as AT&T System V Release 3.2, Berkeley Software Distribution (BSD) 4.2 and 4.3, SCO UNIX 3.2, and Microsoft XENIX. In addition, key features of Sun Microsystems SunOS™ have been incorporated. " On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 4:22 PM Jeff Salzman via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Do a stack of ESIX System V disks mean anything to anybody here? My understanding is that it's Unix System V for AT&T. I am unable to read the disk contents outside of a PC disk drive.
On Sep 6, 2019, at 7:04 PM, W2HX via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Wow. If all of that is true, then this would seem to be a very desirable unix system. Maybe even the holy grail of unixes. However the devil is in the
Well, I know that I desire it! (At least to see it run once.) Things like this start to make me feel bad about trashing the early-90s 386/486 PC hardware I once had.
details. Maybe it had some flaws? I hadn't heard of it, but with those collection of features, you would think it would be extremely well known (maybe it is, maybe I'm cloistered)
I’ve never heard of it before, but I don’t have the UNIX family tree printed out on my bedsheets either. :) — Jameel Akari
On 9/6/19 7:04 PM, W2HX via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Wow. If all of that is true, then this would seem to be a very desirable unix system. Maybe even the holy grail of unixes. However the devil is in the details. Maybe it had some flaws? I hadn't heard of it, but with those collection of features, you would think it would be extremely well known (maybe it is, maybe I'm cloistered)
The world of PC hardware was only a very small piece of the UNIX market, and ESIX ran only on PC hardware. Otherwise you'd probably have heard more about it. It was actually quite good. I didn't run it personally (I had Suns), but I helped a friend get it running and I did a lot of stuff on his machine. It was a good, solid UNIX. It was a bit slow, but it was running on PC hardware, so that was par for the course. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
On 9/6/19 4:21 PM, Jeff Salzman via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Do a stack of ESIX System V disks mean anything to anybody here? My understanding is that it's Unix System V for AT&T. I am unable to read the disk contents outside of a PC disk drive.
That's an Everex implementation of SysV for PC hardware. It was quite good, I liked it a lot. If you don't have the ability to make images of those disks there, I can do it here. I have one distribution, but additional copies of potentially different revisions, and/or different options, would be of great value. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
On Fri, 6 Sep 2019, Jeff Salzman via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Do a stack of ESIX System V disks mean anything to anybody here? My understanding is that it's Unix System V for AT&T. I am unable to read the disk contents outside of a PC disk drive.
Yep. I used to run ESIX on my home system in the erly '90s. Cost me $1,300 back in the day for an unlimited user development system. At that point, there weren't many options for Unix on a 386/486. SVR4 has all the goodies: networking, X11, BSD utilities, compilers. Distributed by Everex. I don't remember what format the disks are in. Mike Loewen mloewen@cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/
On 9/6/19 5:28 PM, Mike Loewen via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Do a stack of ESIX System V disks mean anything to anybody here? My understanding is that it's Unix System V for AT&T. I am unable to read the disk contents outside of a PC disk drive.
Yep. I used to run ESIX on my home system in the erly '90s. Cost me $1,300 back in the day for an unlimited user development system. At that point, there weren't many options for Unix on a 386/486. SVR4 has all the goodies: networking, X11, BSD utilities, compilers. Distributed by Everex.
Everex did more than distribute it; they started with AT&T SysV, wrote most of the drivers, and integrated the BSD extensions.
I don't remember what format the disks are in.
The distribution I ran was on 5.25" HD (1.2MB) floppies. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
On Fri, 6 Sep 2019, Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
On 9/6/19 5:28 PM, Mike Loewen via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Do a stack of ESIX System V disks mean anything to anybody here? My understanding is that it's Unix System V for AT&T. I am unable to read the disk contents outside of a PC disk drive.
Yep. I used to run ESIX on my home system in the erly '90s. Cost me $1,300 back in the day for an unlimited user development system. At that point, there weren't many options for Unix on a 386/486. SVR4 has all the goodies: networking, X11, BSD utilities, compilers. Distributed by Everex.
Everex did more than distribute it; they started with AT&T SysV, wrote most of the drivers, and integrated the BSD extensions.
I don't remember what format the disks are in.
The distribution I ran was on 5.25" HD (1.2MB) floppies.
So is mine, but I was referring to the format of the contents. I think they might be in SVR4 .pkg format. Solaris might be able to read the contents. Mike Loewen mloewen@cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/
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