Looking for weight of vintage computers for Science Fair Project
Thank you to all who have helped with Connor's science fair project comparing 13 micro-computers! We've been learning so much and greatly appreciate the help testing and interpreting data so far. Connor S. has put together some graphs on time to boot, factorial calculations & time to count to 1,000,000. He also made a comparison table based on information we could find on each computer. We've had difficulty locating the weight of some computers on-line. If anyone can help, we are still looking for the approx. weight of the following computers. (Weight should include computer, disk drives & monitor, if possible) - Commodore PET - TRS-80 model 1 - Atari 800 XL - TRS CoCo 3 - Vic-20 -Tandy model 102 Thank you, Jen & Connor S.
On 03/16/2018 08:54 PM, Connor S via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Thank you to all who have helped with Connor's science fair project comparing 13 micro-computers! We've been learning so much and greatly appreciate the help testing and interpreting data so far. Connor S. has put together some graphs on time to boot, factorial calculations & time to count to 1,000,000. He also made a comparison table based on information we could find on each computer. We've had difficulty locating the weight of some computers on-line.
If anyone can help, we are still looking for the approx. weight of the following computers. (Weight should include computer, disk drives & monitor, if possible)
32 ounces of water roughly weighs 4 lbs (weight of my water bottle). Not sure of the monitor but should weight the same for the C64, Vic20, 800xl and CoCo. Here's the following (roughly, no scale): Wide Screen laptop weights 8 to 10 lbs (with power)
- Atari 800 XL 7 lbs with power supply (power supplies varied) 7 lbs with disk drive and power supply (each)
- TRS CoCo 3 4 lbs with power 6 -8 lbs (some drive have heavy power supplies (each)
The drives get a bit complicated. Some 5 1/4 full height drives were heavy. The half height 5 1/4 were lighter. 3 1/2 even lighter. 8" drives are ridiculously heavy. OS9 (NitrOS9 can use all the above). 8" drive were less likely in hobbyist circles so were 3 1/2.
-Tandy model 1024-5 lbs with wall wart, disk drive (yes it had one) and batteries
I'm sure others can fine tune this -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
Thank you so much for this perspective. Quite helpful when comparing across computers and systems. Connor S. was looking to understand the 'portability' weight if you were to move a computer / monitor / disk drive / etc. to use one of these. Today we carried (aka lugged) the Macintosh SE, Altair 8800 (clone), iBook & MacBook Air to the school science fair. I would have to say the Macintosh SE with disk drive, keyboard, mouse & power cables isn't as 'portable' as I had hoped. Glad Connor S. found a vintage case for it, but wish the design had included wheels for the long walk down the hallways and across the gym! :) Jen & Connor S. On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 9:35 PM, Neil Cherry <ncherry@linuxha.com> wrote:
On 03/16/2018 08:54 PM, Connor S via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Thank you to all who have helped with Connor's science fair project comparing 13 micro-computers! We've been learning so much and greatly appreciate the help testing and interpreting data so far. Connor S. has put together some graphs on time to boot, factorial calculations & time to count to 1,000,000. He also made a comparison table based on information we could find on each computer. We've had difficulty locating the weight of some computers on-line.
If anyone can help, we are still looking for the approx. weight of the following computers. (Weight should include computer, disk drives & monitor, if possible)
32 ounces of water roughly weighs 4 lbs (weight of my water bottle).
Not sure of the monitor but should weight the same for the C64, Vic20, 800xl and CoCo. Here's the following (roughly, no scale):
Wide Screen laptop weights 8 to 10 lbs (with power)
- Atari 800 XL
7 lbs with power supply (power supplies varied) 7 lbs with disk drive and power supply (each)
- TRS CoCo 3
4 lbs with power 6 -8 lbs (some drive have heavy power supplies (each)
The drives get a bit complicated. Some 5 1/4 full height drives were heavy. The half height 5 1/4 were lighter. 3 1/2 even lighter. 8" drives are ridiculously heavy. OS9 (NitrOS9 can use all the above). 8" drive were less likely in hobbyist circles so were 3 1/2.
-Tandy model 1024-5 lbs with wall wart, disk drive (yes it had one) and
batteries
I'm sure others can fine tune this -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
You should try picking up a Commodore SX-64! On Mar 17, 2018, at 2:36 PM, Connor S via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote: Thank you so much for this perspective. Quite helpful when comparing across computers and systems. Connor S. was looking to understand the 'portability' weight if you were to move a computer / monitor / disk drive / etc. to use one of these. Today we carried (aka lugged) the Macintosh SE, Altair 8800 (clone), iBook & MacBook Air to the school science fair. I would have to say the Macintosh SE with disk drive, keyboard, mouse & power cables isn't as 'portable' as I had hoped. Glad Connor S. found a vintage case for it, but wish the design had included wheels for the long walk down the hallways and across the gym! :) Jen & Connor S.
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 9:35 PM, Neil Cherry <ncherry@linuxha.com> wrote:
On 03/16/2018 08:54 PM, Connor S via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Thank you to all who have helped with Connor's science fair project comparing 13 micro-computers! We've been learning so much and greatly appreciate the help testing and interpreting data so far. Connor S. has put together some graphs on time to boot, factorial calculations & time to count to 1,000,000. He also made a comparison table based on information we could find on each computer. We've had difficulty locating the weight of some computers on-line.
If anyone can help, we are still looking for the approx. weight of the following computers. (Weight should include computer, disk drives & monitor, if possible)
32 ounces of water roughly weighs 4 lbs (weight of my water bottle).
Not sure of the monitor but should weight the same for the C64, Vic20, 800xl and CoCo. Here's the following (roughly, no scale):
Wide Screen laptop weights 8 to 10 lbs (with power)
- Atari 800 XL
7 lbs with power supply (power supplies varied) 7 lbs with disk drive and power supply (each)
- TRS CoCo 3
4 lbs with power 6 -8 lbs (some drive have heavy power supplies (each)
The drives get a bit complicated. Some 5 1/4 full height drives were heavy. The half height 5 1/4 were lighter. 3 1/2 even lighter. 8" drives are ridiculously heavy. OS9 (NitrOS9 can use all the above). 8" drive were less likely in hobbyist circles so were 3 1/2.
-Tandy model 1024-5 lbs with wall wart, disk drive (yes it had one) and
batteries
I'm sure others can fine tune this -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
On 03/17/2018 02:36 PM, Connor S wrote:
Thank you so much for this perspective. Quite helpful when comparing across computers and systems. Connor S. was looking to understand the 'portability' weight if you were to move a computer / monitor / disk drive / etc. to use one of these.
Today we carried (aka lugged) the Macintosh SE, Altair 8800 (clone), iBook & MacBook Air to the school science fair. I would have to say the Macintosh SE with disk drive, keyboard, mouse & power cables isn't as 'portable' as I had hoped. Glad Connor S. found a vintage case for it, but wish the design had included wheels for the long walk down the hallways and across the gym! :)
None of the computers (except the Model T - AKA the Model 100) were portable or even luggable. There was the Kaypro, an IBM and a few others that were luggable. I have something similar to the Model T and a Radio Shack PC-2 (a little larger than a large cell phone). That weighs in at 1lb. But the Model Ts were popular among the News folks. The batteries lasted at least a week, it was a comfortable keyboard and with a battery powered modem you call 'phone in' your story. At 300 baud the call would only be a few minutes. I had a luggable 386sx sniffer laptop that weighed in at 18lbs and cost $25k (1990). That was fun to travel with. Today we can get open source software call Wireshark that is more powerful. I wonder if I can get that on a tablet? -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 8:54 PM, Connor S via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
Thank you to all who have helped with Connor's science fair project comparing 13 micro-computers! We've been learning so much and greatly appreciate the help testing and interpreting data so far. Connor S. has put together some graphs on time to boot, factorial calculations & time to count to 1,000,000. He also made a comparison table based on information we could find on each computer. We've had difficulty locating the weight of some computers on-line.
If anyone can help, we are still looking for the approx. weight of the following computers. (Weight should include computer, disk drives & monitor, if possible)
- Commodore PET - TRS-80 model 1 - Atari 800 XL - TRS CoCo 3 - Vic-20 -Tandy model 102
Thank you, Jen & Connor S.
If you still wanted to use the Amiga 1000 example the weight with the case, keyboard, mouse, and monitor was listed at 37lbs Dan -- _ ____ / \__/ Scotty, We Need More Power !! \_/ _\__ Aye, Cap'n, but we've only got 80 columns !!
Hi Connor the Tandy 102 (has built in LCD screen) weighs 3 lbs. The optional disk drive was 1.75 lbs. Randy Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 17, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Dan Roganti via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 8:54 PM, Connor S via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
Thank you to all who have helped with Connor's science fair project comparing 13 micro-computers! We've been learning so much and greatly appreciate the help testing and interpreting data so far. Connor S. has put together some graphs on time to boot, factorial calculations & time to count to 1,000,000. He also made a comparison table based on information we could find on each computer. We've had difficulty locating the weight of some computers on-line.
If anyone can help, we are still looking for the approx. weight of the following computers. (Weight should include computer, disk drives & monitor, if possible)
- Commodore PET - TRS-80 model 1 - Atari 800 XL - TRS CoCo 3 - Vic-20 -Tandy model 102
Thank you, Jen & Connor S.
If you still wanted to use the Amiga 1000 example the weight with the case, keyboard, mouse, and monitor was listed at 37lbs Dan -- _ ____ / \__/ Scotty, We Need More Power !! \_/ _\__ Aye, Cap'n, but we've only got 80 columns !!
Thanks for this! We are so impressed with the light weight Tandy 102 running on AA batteries. It's been added to the science fair poster. Thank you, Jen & Connor S.
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