Can anyone spare a proper Apple monitor? This 13" TV with my //e Platinum just isn't cutting it. Everything is blurry no matter what I adjust in its settings.
On Jul 31, 2016, at 12:22 AM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
Can anyone spare a proper Apple monitor? This 13" TV with my //e Platinum just isn't cutting it. Everything is blurry no matter what I adjust in its settings.
Green screen or color? I have enough monitor IIs (green phosphor) I can definitely give you one (you'll have to live with some yellowing, haven't retrobrighted them yet) Color monitors I only have a few, and they're matched with machines and much harder to come by. Let me know. Tony
On 7/31/2016 12:42 AM, Tony Bogan via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Green screen or color? I have enough monitor IIs (green phosphor) I can definitely give you one (you'll have to live with some yellowing, haven't retrobrighted them yet)
Before retr0briting anything, take a look at this reddit thread, which examines the actual chemistry behind it. https://www.reddit.com/r/gamecollecting/comments/4pdwhw/my_theory_on_retr0br... TL/DR: New theory is peroxide in retr0brite just eats/degrades the outside layer of ABS (including the broken-down, discolored layer, making it appear lighter again), doesn't actually 'fix' anything, and the brown color has to do with the way ABS decays, has little or nothing to do with brominated fire retardants. -- Jonathan Gevaryahu jgevaryahu@gmail.com jgevaryahu@hotmail.com
I don't actually use retrobrite, but the salon creme, which in my experience is not as harsh (at least to date, only true length of time will tell!) Regardless, thank you for the heads up, I am aware of that thread and the controversies/debates surrounding the process. Sometimes it's fun just to sit back and watch the threads on various forums go back and forth about the process!! Tony Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 31, 2016, at 12:52 AM, Jonathan Gevaryahu via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On 7/31/2016 12:42 AM, Tony Bogan via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Green screen or color? I have enough monitor IIs (green phosphor) I can definitely give you one (you'll have to live with some yellowing, haven't retrobrighted them yet)
Before retr0briting anything, take a look at this reddit thread, which examines the actual chemistry behind it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/gamecollecting/comments/4pdwhw/my_theory_on_retr0br...
TL/DR: New theory is peroxide in retr0brite just eats/degrades the outside layer of ABS (including the broken-down, discolored layer, making it appear lighter again), doesn't actually 'fix' anything, and the brown color has to do with the way ABS decays, has little or nothing to do with brominated fire retardants.
-- Jonathan Gevaryahu jgevaryahu@gmail.com jgevaryahu@hotmail.com
I've used the salon creme, the 40% stuff, with good results. The key is to leave it on for just a bit, then wash it off and check the piece. Also know that non white / beige plastic goes at a different rate. I do know that without uv light the creme does nothing. -J On Jul 31, 2016 12:55 AM, "Tony Bogan via vcf-midatlantic" < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
I don't actually use retrobrite, but the salon creme, which in my experience is not as harsh (at least to date, only true length of time will tell!) Regardless, thank you for the heads up, I am aware of that thread and the controversies/debates surrounding the process. Sometimes it's fun just to sit back and watch the threads on various forums go back and forth about the process!! Tony
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 31, 2016, at 12:52 AM, Jonathan Gevaryahu via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On 7/31/2016 12:42 AM, Tony Bogan via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Green screen or color? I have enough monitor IIs (green phosphor) I can definitely give you one (you'll have to live with some yellowing, haven't retrobrighted them yet)
Before retr0briting anything, take a look at this reddit thread, which examines the actual chemistry behind it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/gamecollecting/comments/4pdwhw/my_theory_on_retr0br...
TL/DR: New theory is peroxide in retr0brite just eats/degrades the
outside layer of ABS (including the broken-down, discolored layer, making it appear lighter again), doesn't actually 'fix' anything, and the brown color has to do with the way ABS decays, has little or nothing to do with brominated fire retardants.
-- Jonathan Gevaryahu jgevaryahu@gmail.com jgevaryahu@hotmail.com
On 7/31/2016 12:22 AM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Can anyone spare a proper Apple monitor? This 13" TV with my //e Platinum just isn't cutting it. Everything is blurry no matter what I adjust in its settings.
Try a commodore 1702, those are always crisp from what I've seen. -- Jonathan Gevaryahu jgevaryahu@gmail.com jgevaryahu@hotmail.com
Hmmm... there's a color monitor on eBay for a starting bid of $9.95, "parts only," but I know some people who can fix such things. :)
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On Jul 31, 2016, at 1:00 AM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
Hmmm... there's a color monitor on eBay for a starting bid of $9.95, "parts only," but I know some people who can fix such things. :)
Do they show it doing anything? If the CRT is bad, the flyback or yoke are bad, you are going to have a hard time finding replacements. You could get a Sony PVM series pro monitor, they can be found for not too much money and make absolutely gorgeous pictures. If you get one of the MD versions they are a beige color not gray.
Do they show it doing anything?
No. The ad only says "does not power on". http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-Color-Composite-Monitor-IIe-Platinum-A2M6021-P...
On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 1:39 AM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
Do they show it doing anything?
No. The ad only says "does not power on".
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-Color-Composite-Monitor-IIe-Platinum-A2M6021-P...
If you're looking for alternatives, I use a Magnavox CM8562 with my Platinum, it has a very nice, sharp, crisp display - and it's beige This even has a TTL RGB input besides the composite video I also use a Magnavox CM8502 on my Atari 800 which came out a year earlier, without the TTL RGB input Dan
I also have the CM8502. Its looks and works great on all my 8-bit beige boxes. On Sunday, July 31, 2016, Dan Roganti via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 1:39 AM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
Do they show it doing anything?
No. The ad only says "does not power on".
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-Color-Composite-Monitor-IIe-Platinum-A2M6021-P...
If you're looking for alternatives, I use a Magnavox CM8562 with my Platinum, it has a very nice, sharp, crisp display - and it's beige This even has a TTL RGB input besides the composite video I also use a Magnavox CM8502 on my Atari 800 which came out a year earlier, without the TTL RGB input Dan
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