I'm surprised by all the interest in UPS's. I have generations of them, myself, in the few to several hundred watt range. Every digital device in my home has a small UPS on it, always has. Just makes sense. When I get a power hit, the birdies sing from each one. The older household buy-at-Staples ones work fairly well, when batteries are replaced every handful of years. They appear at thrift stores for several dollars; the salvage value of the gells is about a few dollars. Avoid the very smallest units, only buy units that take standard sized cells. Funny, some units WILL take standard sized cells, if you chop out the ribs molded into them, that hold SMALLER batteries - so they can sell them cheaper. That's my kind of 'creative destruction'. I have some old 1990's APC rack-mounters that I haven't populated in several years, 3000 watt. And some other floor models in the few thousand watt range, which need those larger 17VA batteries, not the several VA 12V common sized gell-cell units. I just scrapped two giant UPS's, 3-phase units, that took four car battery sized lead-acid cells. They also went back to the 1990's. Wiser heads told me "those are too old and inefficient for today's use". The steel went on the curb and disappeared. Anyone need 60 Hertz ferro-resonant chokes and transformers? Hey, I can use them for exercise equipment - if I don't mind losing a toe if I drop one! ;) If interest persists to when we get together again, I'll bring some around for purchase. Batteries not included. Regards, Herb "Amps" Johnson PS: does this still count for "how's everyone doing"? Do we all run on batteries now, or what? ;) -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net preserve, recover, restore 1970's computing email: hjohnson AT retrotechnology DOT com or try later herbjohnson AT retrotechnology DOT info