Re: [vcf-midatlantic] 47-Ton Cheyenne Supercomputer Sold To Mystery Buyer For $480, 000 (Herbert Johnson)
It's already been proven on LTT that if anyone trys to use this system the repairs, PM, up keep, power, and all other expenses to run it makes it useless compared to todays tech! It's only worth parting out unless the damage has turned it into scrap! Sadly I fear when the hardware goes on ebay because no one will know whether it might have been damaged and that shear volume of hardware on ebay at one time will make the prices drop HARD! Thanks, David Eugene Waybright CompTIA A+, NET+, & Security+ Technician Crestron Certified CIV-E Intelligent Video Engineer, CIV-D Intelligent Video Designer & CIV-S Intelligent Video Specialist Crestron Certified Masters Technology Architect; Core, Flex, DMC-D-4K & E-4K, SCT-R & C, DCT-R & C, TCT-R & C AVMM Engineer; Audio & Shades Technician Extron Certified A/V Associate IT Operations & Secure Infrastructure Specialist Tesla Referral Code: https://ts.la/david55244 Please use my referral for a free demo drive, also $500 Off + 3 mo. FSD on Model 3 & Y, $1,000 Off + 3 mo. FSD on Model S & X, & $500 Off Solar TeslaFi Referral Code: https://www.teslafi.com/signup.php?referred=Dwaybright receive a one-month trial instead of two weeks. Tessie Referral Code: https://share.tessie.com/QpzcnbTb5yb receive one month free when you sign up. ChargePoint Home Pro, CPF25, CPF50, CPH50, CT4000, CP6000, OnRamp, Express 100, 200,& 250 Certified Technician [cid:1866a347-ddb4-4687-876d-24fcefd728dc]<https://outlook.office.com/bookwithme/user/0f52d73c69ad43ffb4490b6e75ed0de2@pt-solutions.org?anonymous&ep=signature> Book time to meet with me<https://outlook.office.com/bookwithme/user/0f52d73c69ad43ffb4490b6e75ed0de2@pt-solutions.org?anonymous&ep=signature> ________________________________ From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces@lists.vcfed.org> on behalf of vcf-midatlantic-request@lists.vcfed.org <vcf-midatlantic-request@lists.vcfed.org> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2024 8:00 AM To: vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Subject: vcf-midatlantic Digest, Vol 72, Issue 12 Send vcf-midatlantic mailing list submissions to vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.vcfed.org/mailman/listinfo/vcf-midatlantic or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to vcf-midatlantic-request@lists.vcfed.org You can reach the person managing the list at vcf-midatlantic-owner@lists.vcfed.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of vcf-midatlantic digest..." Today's Topics: 1. 47-Ton Cheyenne Supercomputer Sold To Mystery Buyer For $480, 000 (Herbert Johnson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 11 May 2024 11:22:43 -0400 From: Herbert Johnson <hjohnson@retrotechnology.info> To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Subject: [vcf-midatlantic] 47-Ton Cheyenne Supercomputer Sold To Mystery Buyer For $480, 000 Message-ID: <081ed6c2-fc30-4cee-8187-b304dab4d347@retrotechnology.info> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed There's speculation about what might be done with this computer, what it costs to run, value of parts. Consider how *massive* this system is, running costs, maintenance. Plumbing - pipes with fluids to every board - is a serious problem, it's literally leaking. Seven year old processors and RAM have some value, but thousands of them? storage? transaction costs? Either junking or reuse, is a business proposition that needs like a million dollars capitalization (half to buy, the rest to fund removal & storage and reinstallation, pay for the first month of operation, or months of storage for resale, costs like those). I found two resources online which are informative (doesn't mean every post is fact-based). https://cowboystatedaily.com/2024/05/07/cheyenne-supercomputer-sold-to-myste... The local newspaper has some thoughtful considerations. Actual reportage! How about that. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40197277 This is pretty informative, posts from people who actually deinstalled and or run computers or parted-out computers of this class. Since the universe of bidders was small, what some winner might do is hard to predict. Doesn't seem like the sale price was for parting-out, more like for reuse where electricity and labor is cheaper. But anyone with a million dollar budget could have bought this for any oddball reason. Oddball at scale is entirely possible. Word will likely emerge. Regards Herb Johnson -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey USA https://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net preserve, recover, restore 1970's computing email: hjohnson AT retrotechnology DOT com or try later herbjohnson AT comcast DOT net End of vcf-midatlantic Digest, Vol 72, Issue 12 ***********************************************
That's pretty funny. :) -Dave On 5/13/24 19:11, David Waybright via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
It's already been proven on LTT that if anyone trys to use this system the repairs, PM, up keep, power, and all other expenses to run it makes it useless compared to todays tech!
It's only worth parting out unless the damage has turned it into scrap!
Sadly I fear when the hardware goes on ebay because no one will know whether it might have been damaged and that shear volume of hardware on ebay at one time will make the prices drop HARD!
Thanks,
David Eugene Waybright CompTIA A+, NET+, & Security+ Technician Crestron Certified CIV-E Intelligent Video Engineer, CIV-D Intelligent Video Designer & CIV-S Intelligent Video Specialist Crestron Certified Masters Technology Architect; Core, Flex, DMC-D-4K & E-4K, SCT-R & C, DCT-R & C, TCT-R & C AVMM Engineer; Audio & Shades Technician Extron Certified A/V Associate
IT Operations & Secure Infrastructure Specialist
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1. 47-Ton Cheyenne Supercomputer Sold To Mystery Buyer For $480, 000 (Herbert Johnson)
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Message: 1 Date: Sat, 11 May 2024 11:22:43 -0400 From: Herbert Johnson <hjohnson@retrotechnology.info> To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Subject: [vcf-midatlantic] 47-Ton Cheyenne Supercomputer Sold To Mystery Buyer For $480, 000 Message-ID: <081ed6c2-fc30-4cee-8187-b304dab4d347@retrotechnology.info> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
There's speculation about what might be done with this computer, what it costs to run, value of parts. Consider how *massive* this system is, running costs, maintenance. Plumbing - pipes with fluids to every board - is a serious problem, it's literally leaking. Seven year old processors and RAM have some value, but thousands of them? storage? transaction costs?
Either junking or reuse, is a business proposition that needs like a million dollars capitalization (half to buy, the rest to fund removal & storage and reinstallation, pay for the first month of operation, or months of storage for resale, costs like those).
I found two resources online which are informative (doesn't mean every post is fact-based).
https://cowboystatedaily.com/2024/05/07/cheyenne-supercomputer-sold-to-myste...
The local newspaper has some thoughtful considerations. Actual reportage! How about that.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40197277
This is pretty informative, posts from people who actually deinstalled and or run computers or parted-out computers of this class.
Since the universe of bidders was small, what some winner might do is hard to predict. Doesn't seem like the sale price was for parting-out, more like for reuse where electricity and labor is cheaper. But anyone with a million dollar budget could have bought this for any oddball reason. Oddball at scale is entirely possible. Word will likely emerge.
Regards Herb Johnson
-- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey USA https://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net preserve, recover, restore 1970's computing email: hjohnson AT retrotechnology DOT com or try later herbjohnson AT comcast DOT net
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