Using 'cute names' or names that are only known to people with history with the site is always problematic. By far the best way to do this is use the building numbers (since they're written on the buildings), and always refer to the map when talking about the site. For example - this map: https://vcfed.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/479767B5-C6BD-46AE-B356-E387... Is only partially helpful. If someone says "Where is the VCF museum?" - i can't look at that map and say "It's building 1111. Over there to the left" - the map has some numbers, and some 'current use' descriptions, but I'd have a hard time directing someone to a location from that reference. Absolute locations (building numbers), with tsecondary "current use" labels I think is the best approach. I'm happy to work on this if you'd like. On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 10:39 AM Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:

Whenever I talk about a building at InfoAge I use the original building designations to make it objective in the description. Otherwise I would have to come up with several subjective descriptions that are different and lengthy and vary based on the person.

I've been wondering what I could do to help people understand which building I'm talking about without getting into a lengthy description. The original building numbers are painted on each of the buildings (i.e. 9032). There are different sections of each building (i.e. A, B, C, D). The subjective description for 9032-A is "where we have the vcf east exhibits", "where we used to have our repair workshops", "the big open room", "the big room down the ramp from the ballroom", "Where the World of IBM was last year".

I can of course provide maps such as through Google Maps, InfoAge created maps that are on the website, or maps that VCF members have created. I've even thought about taking photographs and video walkthroughs to make it clearer.

Here are some common buildings that I refer to. It starts out with the official objective designation followed by a subjective one: 9001 - "The Hotel", "The Marconi Hotel", "The Red Brick Building", "The one with the front desk and lobby", "The main building", "The one by the front gates". It Includes a few museums, the lobby, front desk, administrative offices, dining room. 9032 - Includes for sections labeled A, B, C, D. Section A is where we have exhibits, repair workshops, etc, Section B is the shipwreck museum Section C are many museums that go to the hallway heading toward the radio museum Section D is the radio museum.

Broadway - Long hallway which is the backbone of the "H" building which includes four long buildings 9010, 9011, 9036, 9037. Each of these has 4 sections with a letter: A, B, C, D.

9010 - Includes four sections labeled A, B, C, D. Section A - VCF museum, Model train museum, Wireless telegraph museum Section B - Unfinished space, future VCF Museum (4.0) Section C - "Where we had consignment at VCF East", Cafeteria, future Radar and Electronic warfare museum. Section D - "Where we have the main talks at VCF East", Bunkrooms and bathrooms

9011 - Sections A, B, C, D, Military Vehicles Museum and storage.

9036 - Section A - VCF Warehouse Section B - Empty Section C - Future VCF warehouse. Section D - Storage

9037 - Section A - Storage Section B - Storage Section C - Storage Section D - Storage

9059 - "CDL", "IXR", "Where we have our repair workshops". Building with a room that is called "The Classroom" and is used by many groups and another room which is the workbench area and CDL's space.

There are many other buildings with numbers, but these are the most common ones that I refer to.

So how could I make it clearer to each of you so that you know what I'm talking about when I say 9032-A for example?

========================================= Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey@vcfed.org

-- Dave Shevett shevett@pobox.com

I found this googling infoage. It's very detailed but I hope it helps. They should have a larger version of that MAP. https://infoage.org/history-ia/historical-resources/camp-evans-national-hist... On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 10:39 AM Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:

Whenever I talk about a building at InfoAge I use the original building designations to make it objective in the description. Otherwise I would have to come up with several subjective descriptions that are different and lengthy and vary based on the person.

I've been wondering what I could do to help people understand which building I'm talking about without getting into a lengthy description. The original building numbers are painted on each of the buildings (i.e. 9032). There are different sections of each building (i.e. A, B, C, D). The subjective description for 9032-A is "where we have the vcf east exhibits", "where we used to have our repair workshops", "the big open room", "the big room down the ramp from the ballroom", "Where the World of IBM was last year".

I can of course provide maps such as through Google Maps, InfoAge created maps that are on the website, or maps that VCF members have created. I've even thought about taking photographs and video walkthroughs to make it clearer.

Here are some common buildings that I refer to. It starts out with the official objective designation followed by a subjective one: 9001 - "The Hotel", "The Marconi Hotel", "The Red Brick Building", "The one with the front desk and lobby", "The main building", "The one by the front gates". It Includes a few museums, the lobby, front desk, administrative offices, dining room. 9032 - Includes for sections labeled A, B, C, D. Section A is where we have exhibits, repair workshops, etc, Section B is the shipwreck museum Section C are many museums that go to the hallway heading toward the radio museum Section D is the radio museum.

Broadway - Long hallway which is the backbone of the "H" building which includes four long buildings 9010, 9011, 9036, 9037. Each of these has 4 sections with a letter: A, B, C, D.

9010 - Includes four sections labeled A, B, C, D. Section A - VCF museum, Model train museum, Wireless telegraph museum Section B - Unfinished space, future VCF Museum (4.0) Section C - "Where we had consignment at VCF East", Cafeteria, future Radar and Electronic warfare museum. Section D - "Where we have the main talks at VCF East", Bunkrooms and bathrooms

9011 - Sections A, B, C, D, Military Vehicles Museum and storage.

9036 - Section A - VCF Warehouse Section B - Empty Section C - Future VCF warehouse. Section D - Storage

9037 - Section A - Storage Section B - Storage Section C - Storage Section D - Storage

9059 - "CDL", "IXR", "Where we have our repair workshops". Building with a room that is called "The Classroom" and is used by many groups and another room which is the workbench area and CDL's space.

There are many other buildings with numbers, but these are the most common ones that I refer to.

So how could I make it clearer to each of you so that you know what I'm talking about when I say 9032-A for example?

========================================= Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey@vcfed.org

Jeff the only way you could’ve made it any clearer, and by the way you did a wonderful job so far, Is to provide an attachment with the map as you described it. Yes I know we can’t put attachments in these emails, maybe we can fix that at some point. But a link to the location of the VCF page or the InfoAge page with the maps of the buildings as you described certainly would be helpful! And when sending out notifications for events, adding such a link would be very helpful. In the past six months I have become much more familiar With the building layout than in the past. Mike Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. On Mar 22, 2022, at 10:39 AM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote: Whenever I talk about a building at InfoAge I use the original building designations to make it objective in the description. Otherwise I would have to come up with several subjective descriptions that are different and lengthy and vary based on the person. I've been wondering what I could do to help people understand which building I'm talking about without getting into a lengthy description. The original building numbers are painted on each of the buildings (i.e. 9032). There are different sections of each building (i.e. A, B, C, D). The subjective description for 9032-A is "where we have the vcf east exhibits", "where we used to have our repair workshops", "the big open room", "the big room down the ramp from the ballroom", "Where the World of IBM was last year". I can of course provide maps such as through Google Maps, InfoAge created maps that are on the website, or maps that VCF members have created. I've even thought about taking photographs and video walkthroughs to make it clearer. Here are some common buildings that I refer to. It starts out with the official objective designation followed by a subjective one: 9001 - "The Hotel", "The Marconi Hotel", "The Red Brick Building", "The one with the front desk and lobby", "The main building", "The one by the front gates". It Includes a few museums, the lobby, front desk, administrative offices, dining room. 9032 - Includes for sections labeled A, B, C, D. Section A is where we have exhibits, repair workshops, etc, Section B is the shipwreck museum Section C are many museums that go to the hallway heading toward the radio museum Section D is the radio museum. Broadway - Long hallway which is the backbone of the "H" building which includes four long buildings 9010, 9011, 9036, 9037. Each of these has 4 sections with a letter: A, B, C, D. 9010 - Includes four sections labeled A, B, C, D. Section A - VCF museum, Model train museum, Wireless telegraph museum Section B - Unfinished space, future VCF Museum (4.0) Section C - "Where we had consignment at VCF East", Cafeteria, future Radar and Electronic warfare museum. Section D - "Where we have the main talks at VCF East", Bunkrooms and bathrooms 9011 - Sections A, B, C, D, Military Vehicles Museum and storage. 9036 - Section A - VCF Warehouse Section B - Empty Section C - Future VCF warehouse. Section D - Storage 9037 - Section A - Storage Section B - Storage Section C - Storage Section D - Storage 9059 - "CDL", "IXR", "Where we have our repair workshops". Building with a room that is called "The Classroom" and is used by many groups and another room which is the workbench area and CDL's space. There are many other buildings with numbers, but these are the most common ones that I refer to. So how could I make it clearer to each of you so that you know what I'm talking about when I say 9032-A for example? ========================================= Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey@vcfed.org