Re: [vcf-midatlantic] past, present and future
Hi all,
I plan to bring the exhibit I intended to show last year about Ted Nelson to VCF as well as my current exhibit of the PC Transporter for the Apple //e. I will also be able to show demos of Ted Nelson's JOT and Jef Raskin's SWYFT systems for anyone interested. Ted and Jef had great ideas that were ahead of their time. The potential uses for them I see in the decentralized internet space (which is already being crowded out by corporate interests). After corresponding with others who have done more extensive research I do not see them practically seeing the light of day in any product, other than specialized applications, like molecular biology which uses ZigZag. If you have different opinions, or stories about Ted to share, please contact me off-list at erangell@gmail.com. Thanks, Eric
Eric, I’ll contact you off list regarding these subjects, thanks! Regards, Dean On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 8:33 AM Eric Rangell via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Hi all,
I plan to bring the exhibit I intended to show last year about Ted Nelson to VCF as well as my current exhibit of the PC Transporter for the Apple //e. I will also be able to show demos of Ted Nelson's JOT and Jef Raskin's SWYFT systems for anyone interested. Ted and Jef had great ideas that were ahead of their time. The potential uses for them I see in the decentralized internet space (which is already being crowded out by corporate interests). After corresponding with others who have done more extensive research I do not see them practically seeing the light of day in any product, other than specialized applications, like molecular biology which uses ZigZag. If you have different opinions, or stories about Ted to share, please contact me off-list at erangell@gmail.com. Thanks, Eric
Thanks, Dean. Here is a twitter thread with some of my recent thoughts: https://twitter.com/RatifyArticle1/status/1405659720023789575 This video walks thru my exhibit: https://youtu.be/eiHFn-biAFc Enjoy, Eric On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 2:55 PM Dean Notarnicola <dean.notarnicola@vcfed.org> wrote:
Eric, I’ll contact you off list regarding these subjects, thanks!
Regards, Dean
On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 8:33 AM Eric Rangell via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Hi all,
I plan to bring the exhibit I intended to show last year about Ted Nelson to VCF as well as my current exhibit of the PC Transporter for the Apple //e. I will also be able to show demos of Ted Nelson's JOT and Jef Raskin's SWYFT systems for anyone interested. Ted and Jef had great ideas that were ahead of their time. The potential uses for them I see in the decentralized internet space (which is already being crowded out by corporate interests). After corresponding with others who have done more extensive research I do not see them practically seeing the light of day in any product, other than specialized applications, like molecular biology which uses ZigZag. If you have different opinions, or stories about Ted to share, please contact me off-list at erangell@gmail.com. Thanks, Eric
Eric, Sorry for the delayed response, life has been hectic! I love the idea of showing the Jot and SWYFT! I'm going over to Ted Nelson's tomorrow for our weekly chat. He is willing to do a talk at VCF this year and he's asking what subject he should do. I'd love to get your opinion on that. Please let me know your thoughts, thanks! As well, your PC Transporter woul;d go great with the IBM theme this year! Regards, Dean On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 5:43 AM Eric Rangell <erangell@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, Dean. Here is a twitter thread with some of my recent thoughts: https://twitter.com/RatifyArticle1/status/1405659720023789575
This video walks thru my exhibit: https://youtu.be/eiHFn-biAFc Enjoy, Eric
On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 2:55 PM Dean Notarnicola < dean.notarnicola@vcfed.org> wrote:
Eric, I’ll contact you off list regarding these subjects, thanks!
Regards, Dean
On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 8:33 AM Eric Rangell via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Hi all,
I plan to bring the exhibit I intended to show last year about Ted Nelson to VCF as well as my current exhibit of the PC Transporter for the Apple //e. I will also be able to show demos of Ted Nelson's JOT and Jef Raskin's SWYFT systems for anyone interested. Ted and Jef had great ideas that were ahead of their time. The potential uses for them I see in the decentralized internet space (which is already being crowded out by corporate interests). After corresponding with others who have done more extensive research I do not see them practically seeing the light of day in any product, other than specialized applications, like molecular biology which uses ZigZag. If you have different opinions, or stories about Ted to share, please contact me off-list at erangell@gmail.com. Thanks, Eric
Apologies, everyone. I diid not mean to spam the list with this. I will take it off-list. On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 9:30 PM Dean Notarnicola via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Eric, Sorry for the delayed response, life has been hectic! I love the idea of showing the Jot and SWYFT! I'm going over to Ted Nelson's tomorrow for our weekly chat. He is willing to do a talk at VCF this year and he's asking what subject he should do. I'd love to get your opinion on that. Please let me know your thoughts, thanks!
As well, your PC Transporter woul;d go great with the IBM theme this year!
Regards, Dean
On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 5:43 AM Eric Rangell <erangell@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, Dean. Here is a twitter thread with some of my recent thoughts: https://twitter.com/RatifyArticle1/status/1405659720023789575
This video walks thru my exhibit: https://youtu.be/eiHFn-biAFc Enjoy, Eric
On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 2:55 PM Dean Notarnicola < dean.notarnicola@vcfed.org> wrote:
Eric, I’ll contact you off list regarding these subjects, thanks!
Regards, Dean
On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 8:33 AM Eric Rangell via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Hi all,
I plan to bring the exhibit I intended to show last year about Ted Nelson to VCF as well as my current exhibit of the PC Transporter for the Apple //e. I will also be able to show demos of Ted Nelson's JOT and Jef Raskin's SWYFT systems for anyone interested. Ted and Jef had great ideas that were ahead of their time. The potential uses for them I see in the decentralized internet space (which is already being crowded out by corporate interests). After corresponding with others who have done more extensive research I do not see them practically seeing the light of day in any product, other than specialized applications, like molecular biology which uses ZigZag. If you have different opinions, or stories about Ted to share, please contact me off-list at erangell@gmail.com. Thanks, Eric
Hi Dean, Thank you for your reply. Can you tell me more about the weekly chat you have with Ted? I would be interested in stories about how his 1979 team came together and worked on Xanadu Classic. I prepared this video of my current thoughts on Ted’s ideas: https://youtu.be/MfedQqzJ434 <https://youtu.be/MfedQqzJ434> Some feedback I got is that it would require 15 projects working together in an interoperable manner to make it happen with current technologies. Feel free to share this with Ted. Thanks, Eric
On Jul 6, 2021, at 9:29 PM, Dean Notarnicola <dean.notarnicola@vcfed.org> wrote:
Eric, Sorry for the delayed response, life has been hectic! I love the idea of showing the Jot and SWYFT! I'm going over to Ted Nelson's tomorrow for our weekly chat. He is willing to do a talk at VCF this year and he's asking what subject he should do. I'd love to get your opinion on that. Please let me know your thoughts, thanks!
As well, your PC Transporter woul;d go great with the IBM theme this year!
Regards, Dean
On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 5:43 AM Eric Rangell <erangell@gmail.com <mailto:erangell@gmail.com>> wrote: Thanks, Dean. Here is a twitter thread with some of my recent thoughts: https://twitter.com/RatifyArticle1/status/1405659720023789575 <https://twitter.com/RatifyArticle1/status/1405659720023789575>
This video walks thru my exhibit: https://youtu.be/eiHFn-biAFc <https://youtu.be/eiHFn-biAFc> Enjoy, Eric
On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 2:55 PM Dean Notarnicola <dean.notarnicola@vcfed.org <mailto:dean.notarnicola@vcfed.org>> wrote: Eric, I’ll contact you off list regarding these subjects, thanks!
Regards, Dean
On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 8:33 AM Eric Rangell via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org <mailto:vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org>> wrote:
Hi all,
I plan to bring the exhibit I intended to show last year about Ted Nelson to VCF as well as my current exhibit of the PC Transporter for the Apple //e. I will also be able to show demos of Ted Nelson's JOT and Jef Raskin's SWYFT systems for anyone interested. Ted and Jef had great ideas that were ahead of their time. The potential uses for them I see in the decentralized internet space (which is already being crowded out by corporate interests). After corresponding with others who have done more extensive research I do not see them practically seeing the light of day in any product, other than specialized applications, like molecular biology which uses ZigZag. If you have different opinions, or stories about Ted to share, please contact me off-list at erangell@gmail.com <mailto:erangell@gmail.com>. Thanks, Eric
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