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-- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation
Hello - Anyone that is participating in UNIX Town at the VCF East --- if you have availability to meet up at the Repair Day SAT - the 30th please do attend. Lets talk about what we have and what we can do. The Atari Exhibit seems intimidating and we should try and make sure that UNIX Town is a nice place for people to visit. My Idea is to try and get a MUD running on one of our systems, and have a common set of accounts setup across the systems we network together so people can stop by, use a terminal and login and play some MUD or jump around to different machines. I have at least two real terminals I'm bringing - a VT100 and VT510. I have two tables and will be dedicating one of them for just the terminal (and annex setup). We may be able to use a cool terminal from the VCF warehouse if we can identify one and get it to work. So come Sat if you can. -andy
Andy, I'd love to have something on the Lisas that interacts with the other systems. The Xenix machine has Micnet. I don't know what the UniPlus machine has. If we want to spend some time getting this working I can schlep both systems up with me. (I was thinking I wouldn't have anything to work on for this workshop... but that would be something to do for sure!) IMHO having the multiple systems interact is key to making the display interesting. Thanks, On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 9:34 AM <dillera@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello -
Anyone that is participating in UNIX Town at the VCF East --- if you have availability to meet up at the Repair Day SAT - the 30th please do attend.
Lets talk about what we have and what we can do.
The Atari Exhibit seems intimidating and we should try and make sure that UNIX Town is a nice place for people to visit.
My Idea is to try and get a MUD running on one of our systems, and have a common set of accounts setup across the systems we network together so people can stop by, use a terminal and login and play some MUD or jump around to different machines.
I have at least two real terminals I'm bringing - a VT100 and VT510. I have two tables and will be dedicating one of them for just the terminal (and annex setup). We may be able to use a cool terminal from the VCF warehouse if we can identify one and get it to work.
So come Sat if you can.
-andy
-- Jason Perkins 313 355 0085
Yes, I'll bring a couple of systems also to test a small Lan with. -andy
On Mar 25, 2019, at 10:02 AM, Jason Perkins <perkins.jason@gmail.com> wrote:
Andy,
I'd love to have something on the Lisas that interacts with the other systems. The Xenix machine has Micnet. I don't know what the UniPlus machine has.
If we want to spend some time getting this working I can schlep both systems up with me. (I was thinking I wouldn't have anything to work on for this workshop... but that would be something to do for sure!)
IMHO having the multiple systems interact is key to making the display interesting.
Thanks,
On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 9:34 AM <dillera@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello -
Anyone that is participating in UNIX Town at the VCF East --- if you have availability to meet up at the Repair Day SAT - the 30th please do attend.
Lets talk about what we have and what we can do.
The Atari Exhibit seems intimidating and we should try and make sure that UNIX Town is a nice place for people to visit.
My Idea is to try and get a MUD running on one of our systems, and have a common set of accounts setup across the systems we network together so people can stop by, use a terminal and login and play some MUD or jump around to different machines.
I have at least two real terminals I'm bringing - a VT100 and VT510. I have two tables and will be dedicating one of them for just the terminal (and annex setup). We may be able to use a cool terminal from the VCF warehouse if we can identify one and get it to work.
So come Sat if you can.
-andy
-- Jason Perkins 313 355 0085
I've signed up. I will probably bring whichever RS/6k I'm going to run for UNIX TOWN and its accessories. Agreed we need to coordinate this and figure out what thing(s) to do for a unified exhibit. I also have museum loaner returns to do and I think some equipment to loan to fellow UNIX folks. -- Jameel Akari On 2019-03-25 12:36, Andrew Diller via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Yes, I'll bring a couple of systems also to test a small Lan with.
-andy
On Mar 25, 2019, at 10:02 AM, Jason Perkins <perkins.jason@gmail.com> wrote:
Andy,
I'd love to have something on the Lisas that interacts with the other systems. The Xenix machine has Micnet. I don't know what the UniPlus machine has.
If we want to spend some time getting this working I can schlep both systems up with me. (I was thinking I wouldn't have anything to work on for this workshop... but that would be something to do for sure!)
IMHO having the multiple systems interact is key to making the display interesting.
Thanks,
On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 9:34 AM <dillera@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello -
Anyone that is participating in UNIX Town at the VCF East --- if you have availability to meet up at the Repair Day SAT - the 30th please do attend.
Lets talk about what we have and what we can do.
The Atari Exhibit seems intimidating and we should try and make sure that UNIX Town is a nice place for people to visit.
My Idea is to try and get a MUD running on one of our systems, and have a common set of accounts setup across the systems we network together so people can stop by, use a terminal and login and play some MUD or jump around to different machines.
I have at least two real terminals I'm bringing - a VT100 and VT510. I have two tables and will be dedicating one of them for just the terminal (and annex setup). We may be able to use a cool terminal from the VCF warehouse if we can identify one and get it to work.
So come Sat if you can.
-andy
-- Jason Perkins 313 355 0085
-- Jameel Akari
Anyone that is participating in UNIX Town at the VCF East --- if you have availability to meet up at the Repair Day SAT - the 30th please do attend.
Unfortunately I have a SCUBA class that day and can't make it. I am ordering a SCSI2SD for my TT030, I already got the video adapter in, and will image off the Atari UNIX for it. Will pull out the Sun Voyager that I'm bringing to unixtown soon as well.
My Idea is to try and get a MUD running on one of our systems, and have a common set of accounts setup across the systems we network together so people can stop by, use a terminal and login and play some MUD or jump around to different machines.
Good idea! Maybe come up with IP scheme in advance for all the hosts? Maybe a hosts file and accounts we should add? - Ethan
On 2019-03-27 13:11, Ethan O'Toole via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Anyone that is participating in UNIX Town at the VCF East --- if you have availability to meet up at the Repair Day SAT - the 30th please do attend.
Unfortunately I have a SCUBA class that day and can't make it.
I am ordering a SCSI2SD for my TT030, I already got the video adapter in, and will image off the Atari UNIX for it.
Will pull out the Sun Voyager that I'm bringing to unixtown soon as well.
My Idea is to try and get a MUD running on one of our systems, and have a common set of accounts setup across the systems we network together so people can stop by, use a terminal and login and play some MUD or jump around to different machines.
Good idea!
Maybe come up with IP scheme in advance for all the hosts? Maybe a hosts file and accounts we should add?
IPs we've got on the Google Sheets spreadsheet. Maybe we add a tab for things like users/creds. A MUD is pretty cool, though a bit involved for passerbys. Something more like a guestbook? Visit all the machines, get a THIS IS UNIX TOWN! printout with your name? If you've got X11, bzFlag? -- Jameel Akari
I haven't been very active on the mailing list in a long time, and I need to get a bit more so. My wife and I had a fantastic trip from home in Virginia to the VCF in Seattle this past weekend. We combined the event with another trip we've been wanting to make, and it could not have been better. AMTRAK ran a sale late last year, and we picked up a "roomette" on the Coast Starlight for a buy-one-get-one rate, and spent two days riding the scenic rail from LA to Seattle. A small private room with two seats and bunks and windows, pretty solid meals included, and amazing views and delightful train-mates and it cost us <$400 for the two of us, total. As soon as they announced the sale, I booked it to get us to Seattle for the VCF. Getting around Seattle was fantastic. We planned to have a rental car, which fell through for reasons, and we ended up just walking and doing a little bit of Uber-ing and saved a bunch of money and hassle. We parted ways on Saturday - I went to the VCF, and she went to do some things with glassblowing and wine (in sequence, not concurrently). Anyway, I grabbed one of the ubiquitous rental electric bikes and scooted down to the fest, and it was terrific. It's quite a bike-friendly place. We split Friday between the Museum of Flight and the Living Computer Museum + Labs, which was a day very well spent. There's a good bit of nostalgia in the LCM+L for people of my age, and it brought back memories to sit down at an IBM 029 card punch and a TTY ASR-33 again as I did throughout high school, and to be in a computer room again with big systems and reel tapes with write-rings and impact printers. The VCF was a most excellent event. It was terrific putting some faces to email addresses, talking with Oscar Vermeulen again and comparing some notes on the Kim-Uno and PiDP-8 and -11, and meeting a bunch of remarkable people doing really cool stuff. Anyway, I highly recommend a similar excursion to anyone with the interest. My current projects on the bench are finishing touches on an IBM 5155 restoration, and a Sperry (rebadged Corona/Cordata) Portable PC which I'm trying to work out the power supply. Started in to just pull batteries out of all the old boxes that needed it done, and it turned into a burst of energetic vintage computing. Cheers, Garrett
I haven't been very active on the mailing list in a long time, and I need to get a bit more so.
My wife and I had a fantastic trip from home in Virginia to the VCF in Seattle this past weekend. We combined the event with another trip we've been wanting to make, and it could not have been better.
Garrett, thanks for your report!
My current projects on the bench are finishing touches on an IBM 5155 restoration, and a Sperry (rebadged Corona/Cordata) Portable PC which I'm trying to work out the power supply. Started in to just pull batteries out of all the old boxes that needed it done, and it turned into a burst of energetic vintage computing.
Consider exhibiting something at VCF East. :)
Sounds fantastic! Thanks for sharing. Are there any pictures on line of VCF PNW for those of us who couldn’t go? -Glenn Sent from my iPad
On Mar 27, 2019, at 8:53 PM, Garrett Nievin via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I haven't been very active on the mailing list in a long time, and I need to get a bit more so.
My wife and I had a fantastic trip from home in Virginia to the VCF in Seattle this past weekend. We combined the event with another trip we've been wanting to make, and it could not have been better.
AMTRAK ran a sale late last year, and we picked up a "roomette" on the Coast Starlight for a buy-one-get-one rate, and spent two days riding the scenic rail from LA to Seattle. A small private room with two seats and bunks and windows, pretty solid meals included, and amazing views and delightful train-mates and it cost us <$400 for the two of us, total. As soon as they announced the sale, I booked it to get us to Seattle for the VCF.
Getting around Seattle was fantastic. We planned to have a rental car, which fell through for reasons, and we ended up just walking and doing a little bit of Uber-ing and saved a bunch of money and hassle. We parted ways on Saturday - I went to the VCF, and she went to do some things with glassblowing and wine (in sequence, not concurrently). Anyway, I grabbed one of the ubiquitous rental electric bikes and scooted down to the fest, and it was terrific. It's quite a bike-friendly place.
We split Friday between the Museum of Flight and the Living Computer Museum + Labs, which was a day very well spent. There's a good bit of nostalgia in the LCM+L for people of my age, and it brought back memories to sit down at an IBM 029 card punch and a TTY ASR-33 again as I did throughout high school, and to be in a computer room again with big systems and reel tapes with write-rings and impact printers.
The VCF was a most excellent event. It was terrific putting some faces to email addresses, talking with Oscar Vermeulen again and comparing some notes on the Kim-Uno and PiDP-8 and -11, and meeting a bunch of remarkable people doing really cool stuff.
Anyway, I highly recommend a similar excursion to anyone with the interest.
My current projects on the bench are finishing touches on an IBM 5155 restoration, and a Sperry (rebadged Corona/Cordata) Portable PC which I'm trying to work out the power supply. Started in to just pull batteries out of all the old boxes that needed it done, and it turned into a burst of energetic vintage computing.
Cheers, Garrett
On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 6:49 AM Glenn Roberts via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Sounds fantastic! Thanks for sharing.
Are there any pictures on line of VCF PNW for those of us who couldn’t go?
I know that Corey and Erik too a bunch. Not sure when and where they will post them. -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation
I have a cool plotter i will bring and have it doing SGI and Apple logos just for entertainment value. It won't be connected to the UNIX systems since it's USB... unless I can find an old plotter and UNIX software to drive it. We can write a little logbook in bash for people to play with--- or also maybe a version of Eliza they can talk to. -andy
On Mar 27, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Jameel Akari via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
On 2019-03-27 13:11, Ethan O'Toole via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Anyone that is participating in UNIX Town at the VCF East --- if you have availability to meet up at the Repair Day SAT - the 30th please do attend. Unfortunately I have a SCUBA class that day and can't make it. I am ordering a SCSI2SD for my TT030, I already got the video adapter in, and will image off the Atari UNIX for it. Will pull out the Sun Voyager that I'm bringing to unixtown soon as well. My Idea is to try and get a MUD running on one of our systems, and have a common set of accounts setup across the systems we network together so people can stop by, use a terminal and login and play some MUD or jump around to different machines. Good idea! Maybe come up with IP scheme in advance for all the hosts? Maybe a hosts file and accounts we should add?
IPs we've got on the Google Sheets spreadsheet. Maybe we add a tab for things like users/creds.
A MUD is pretty cool, though a bit involved for passerbys. Something more like a guestbook? Visit all the machines, get a THIS IS UNIX TOWN! printout with your name?
If you've got X11, bzFlag?
-- Jameel Akari
I have a cool plotter i will bring and have it doing SGI and Apple logos just for entertainment value. It won't be connected to the UNIX systems since it's USB
Duane built a USB-to-Univac adapter. No excuses, dude. :)
On 3/27/19 11:17 PM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I have a cool plotter i will bring and have it doing SGI and Apple logos just for entertainment value. It won't be connected to the UNIX systems since it's USB
Duane built a USB-to-Univac adapter. No excuses, dude. :)
First, very cool, a USB-to-Univac adapter! :-) I think this would be a Unix-to-USB, a lot harder to do. Though he could turn a Raspberry Pi into a remote print server and use print via the TCP/IP network, if he has the drivers. This is probably more work than wanted. -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
I think this would be a Unix-to-USB, a lot harder to do. Though he could turn a Raspberry Pi into a remote print server and use print via the TCP/IP network, if he has the drivers. This is probably more work than wanted.
This is mostly what I did for my SGI Indy + Indycam + thermal printer year before last. The Indy wrote files to an NFS share on a Rasperry Pi, which watched for new files with inotify and piped them into CUPS to run the USB-connected printer. That way when the Indycam took a new photo and saved it, it'd immediately print. I've definitely seen old HP pen plotters hooked up direct to UNIX-y workstations; you need applications that generate HPGL output, that's the tricky part. You don't really have a driver per-se in the print server, you just dump the raw HPGL into the serial or parallel port and the plotter interprets it. -- Jameel Akari
On 2019-03-27 21:43, Andrew Diller wrote:
I have a cool plotter i will bring and have it doing SGI and Apple logos just for entertainment value. It won't be connected to the UNIX systems since it's USB... unless I can find an old plotter and UNIX software to drive it.
We can write a little logbook in bash for people to play with--- or also maybe a version of Eliza they can talk to.
My wife and I talked about this some last night, because that's a thing we do, and she came up with some other/related concepts for the exhibit as a whole and for guest interactivity. We can talk and handwave Saturday. -- Jameel
On Mar 27, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Jameel Akari via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
On 2019-03-27 13:11, Ethan O'Toole via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Anyone that is participating in UNIX Town at the VCF East --- if you have availability to meet up at the Repair Day SAT - the 30th please do attend. Unfortunately I have a SCUBA class that day and can't make it. I am ordering a SCSI2SD for my TT030, I already got the video adapter in, and will image off the Atari UNIX for it. Will pull out the Sun Voyager that I'm bringing to unixtown soon as well. My Idea is to try and get a MUD running on one of our systems, and have a common set of accounts setup across the systems we network together so people can stop by, use a terminal and login and play some MUD or jump around to different machines. Good idea! Maybe come up with IP scheme in advance for all the hosts? Maybe a hosts file and accounts we should add?
IPs we've got on the Google Sheets spreadsheet. Maybe we add a tab for things like users/creds.
A MUD is pretty cool, though a bit involved for passerbys. Something more like a guestbook? Visit all the machines, get a THIS IS UNIX TOWN! printout with your name?
If you've got X11, bzFlag?
-- Jameel Akari
-- Jameel Akari
On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 9:34 AM andy diller via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Hello -
Anyone that is participating in UNIX Town at the VCF East --- if you have availability to meet up at the Repair Day SAT - the 30th please do attend.
I am a) in Ohio and b) attending a wedding this weekend, in Chicago. I will not be at the Repair Day.
Lets talk about what we have and what we can do.
Sounds great!
The Atari Exhibit seems intimidating and we should try and make sure that UNIX Town is a nice place for people to visit.
Superb.
My Idea is to try and get a MUD running on one of our systems, and have a common set of accounts setup across the systems we network together so people can stop by, use a terminal and login and play some MUD or jump around to different machines.
A MUD sounds fun and I'm willing to put it up on my machines but I will not be able to do much on the implementation side. Not all of my machines have network interfaces (half do) but back in the day, we used to use Kermit and tip/cu to reach other machines.
I have at least two real terminals I'm bringing - a VT100 and VT510. I have two tables and will be dedicating one of them for just the terminal (and annex setup). We may be able to use a cool terminal from the VCF warehouse if we can identify one and get it to work.
The items I'm bringing have built-in consoles but of course also have serial ports and support terminals. I am happy to hook into a serial mux too. -ethan
I'm considering getting a lantronix or such type term server, i'll see if VCF has one we can use maybe in the warehouse this Sat. That will allow all our terms to connect to all the hosts via console ports if we can get one. -andy
On Mar 27, 2019, at 1:50 PM, Ethan Dicks via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 9:34 AM andy diller via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Hello -
Anyone that is participating in UNIX Town at the VCF East --- if you have availability to meet up at the Repair Day SAT - the 30th please do attend.
I am a) in Ohio and b) attending a wedding this weekend, in Chicago. I will not be at the Repair Day.
Lets talk about what we have and what we can do.
Sounds great!
The Atari Exhibit seems intimidating and we should try and make sure that UNIX Town is a nice place for people to visit.
Superb.
My Idea is to try and get a MUD running on one of our systems, and have a common set of accounts setup across the systems we network together so people can stop by, use a terminal and login and play some MUD or jump around to different machines.
A MUD sounds fun and I'm willing to put it up on my machines but I will not be able to do much on the implementation side.
Not all of my machines have network interfaces (half do) but back in the day, we used to use Kermit and tip/cu to reach other machines.
I have at least two real terminals I'm bringing - a VT100 and VT510. I have two tables and will be dedicating one of them for just the terminal (and annex setup). We may be able to use a cool terminal from the VCF warehouse if we can identify one and get it to work.
The items I'm bringing have built-in consoles but of course also have serial ports and support terminals. I am happy to hook into a serial mux too.
-ethan
There are a bunch of Lantronix dual-port WiBox Wireless Device Servers in the CDL lab if it makes the task any easier: https://www.lantronix.com/products/wibox-dual-port/ On 3/27/2019 9:45 PM, Andrew Diller via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I'm considering getting a lantronix or such type term server, i'll see if VCF has one we can use maybe in the warehouse this Sat.
That will allow all our terms to connect to all the hosts via console ports if we can get one.
A guestbook is a good idea IMHO. Eric R. and I did that with our Xenix display 2 years ago. It used email to sync the entries between machines. -J On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 7:16 AM Martin Flynn via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
There are a bunch of Lantronix dual-port WiBox Wireless Device Servers in the CDL lab if it makes the task any easier: https://www.lantronix.com/products/wibox-dual-port/
On 3/27/2019 9:45 PM, Andrew Diller via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I'm considering getting a lantronix or such type term server, i'll see if VCF has one we can use maybe in the warehouse this Sat.
That will allow all our terms to connect to all the hosts via console ports if we can get one.
-- Jason Perkins 313 355 0085
Was that a shell script? Do you still have it? I've been collecting some older Unix games that I can find in c (some were in FORTAN) and and going to be trying to get them running on my DEC or IRIX system as time permits. A MUD (a clone of the circle MUD), Adventure (another C port), Eliza (need to get basic working) and hunt the wumpus. -andy
On Mar 28, 2019, at 7:54 AM, Jason Perkins via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
A guestbook is a good idea IMHO. Eric R. and I did that with our Xenix display 2 years ago.
It used email to sync the entries between machines.
-J
Yup, it was some shell scripts. Let me dig them up... On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 11:44 AM <dillera@gmail.com> wrote:
Was that a shell script? Do you still have it?
I've been collecting some older Unix games that I can find in c (some were in FORTAN) and and going to be trying to get them running on my DEC or IRIX system as time permits. A MUD (a clone of the circle MUD), Adventure (another C port), Eliza (need to get basic working) and hunt the wumpus.
-andy
On Mar 28, 2019, at 7:54 AM, Jason Perkins via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
A guestbook is a good idea IMHO. Eric R. and I did that with our Xenix display 2 years ago.
It used email to sync the entries between machines.
-J
-- Jason Perkins 313 355 0085
Here's what we had: guestbook is the main script. when someone adds an entry, it's written to /usr/public/guestbook.list, and emailed to the other system. crontab runs /usr/bin/mailparse.sh, which takes any emails send from the other system and adds them to the end of the guestbook. So both systems had a complete list, though the order of entries might differ a bit. The system names were vcflisa and vcfibm. The destination address was the only difference between the 2 systems. Thanks, On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 12:33 PM Jason Perkins <perkins.jason@gmail.com> wrote:
Yup, it was some shell scripts. Let me dig them up...
On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 11:44 AM <dillera@gmail.com> wrote:
Was that a shell script? Do you still have it?
I've been collecting some older Unix games that I can find in c (some were in FORTAN) and and going to be trying to get them running on my DEC or IRIX system as time permits. A MUD (a clone of the circle MUD), Adventure (another C port), Eliza (need to get basic working) and hunt the wumpus.
-andy
On Mar 28, 2019, at 7:54 AM, Jason Perkins via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
A guestbook is a good idea IMHO. Eric R. and I did that with our Xenix display 2 years ago.
It used email to sync the entries between machines.
-J
-- Jason Perkins 313 355 0085
-- Jason Perkins 313 355 0085
I’m on site - how many of the single - port terminal servers should I leave with Evan??
On Apr 7, 2019, at 12:33 PM, Jason Perkins via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Yup, it was some shell scripts. Let me dig them up...
On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 11:44 AM <dillera@gmail.com> wrote:
Was that a shell script? Do you still have it?
I've been collecting some older Unix games that I can find in c (some were in FORTAN) and and going to be trying to get them running on my DEC or IRIX system as time permits. A MUD (a clone of the circle MUD), Adventure (another C port), Eliza (need to get basic working) and hunt the wumpus.
-andy
On Mar 28, 2019, at 7:54 AM, Jason Perkins via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
A guestbook is a good idea IMHO. Eric R. and I did that with our Xenix display 2 years ago.
It used email to sync the entries between machines.
-J
-- Jason Perkins 313 355 0085
What is a single port terminal server? I got a Cisco that is a 16 port. Do you mean the RJ45 to 9/25 pin serial? -andy
On Apr 7, 2019, at 2:06 PM, Martin Flynn <maflynn@theflynn.org> wrote:
I’m on site - how many of the single - port terminal servers should I leave with Evan??
On Apr 7, 2019, at 12:33 PM, Jason Perkins via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Yup, it was some shell scripts. Let me dig them up...
On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 11:44 AM <dillera@gmail.com> wrote:
Was that a shell script? Do you still have it?
I've been collecting some older Unix games that I can find in c (some were in FORTAN) and and going to be trying to get them running on my DEC or IRIX system as time permits. A MUD (a clone of the circle MUD), Adventure (another C port), Eliza (need to get basic working) and hunt the wumpus.
-andy
On Mar 28, 2019, at 7:54 AM, Jason Perkins via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
A guestbook is a good idea IMHO. Eric R. and I did that with our Xenix display 2 years ago.
It used email to sync the entries between machines.
-J
-- Jason Perkins 313 355 0085
WiFi or wired ethernet to serial
On Apr 7, 2019, at 2:08 PM, dillera@gmail.com wrote:
What is a single port terminal server? I got a Cisco that is a 16 port.
Do you mean the RJ45 to 9/25 pin serial?
-andy
On Apr 7, 2019, at 2:06 PM, Martin Flynn <maflynn@theflynn.org> wrote:
I’m on site - how many of the single - port terminal servers should I leave with Evan??
On Apr 7, 2019, at 12:33 PM, Jason Perkins via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Yup, it was some shell scripts. Let me dig them up...
On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 11:44 AM <dillera@gmail.com> wrote:
Was that a shell script? Do you still have it?
I've been collecting some older Unix games that I can find in c (some were in FORTAN) and and going to be trying to get them running on my DEC or IRIX system as time permits. A MUD (a clone of the circle MUD), Adventure (another C port), Eliza (need to get basic working) and hunt the wumpus.
-andy
On Mar 28, 2019, at 7:54 AM, Jason Perkins via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
A guestbook is a good idea IMHO. Eric R. and I did that with our Xenix display 2 years ago.
It used email to sync the entries between machines.
-J
-- Jason Perkins 313 355 0085
I picked up a cisco 2511 - it does ethernet to 16 port of serial.... -andy
On Apr 7, 2019, at 3:09 PM, Martin Flynn <maflynn@theflynn.org> wrote:
WiFi or wired ethernet to serial
On Apr 7, 2019, at 2:08 PM, dillera@gmail.com wrote:
What is a single port terminal server? I got a Cisco that is a 16 port.
Do you mean the RJ45 to 9/25 pin serial?
-andy
On Apr 7, 2019, at 2:06 PM, Martin Flynn <maflynn@theflynn.org> wrote:
I’m on site - how many of the single - port terminal servers should I leave with Evan??
On Apr 7, 2019, at 12:33 PM, Jason Perkins via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Yup, it was some shell scripts. Let me dig them up...
On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 11:44 AM <dillera@gmail.com> wrote:
Was that a shell script? Do you still have it?
I've been collecting some older Unix games that I can find in c (some were in FORTAN) and and going to be trying to get them running on my DEC or IRIX system as time permits. A MUD (a clone of the circle MUD), Adventure (another C port), Eliza (need to get basic working) and hunt the wumpus.
-andy
On Mar 28, 2019, at 7:54 AM, Jason Perkins via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
A guestbook is a good idea IMHO. Eric R. and I did that with our Xenix display 2 years ago.
It used email to sync the entries between machines.
-J
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On 3/28/19 7:09 AM, Martin Flynn via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
There are a bunch of Lantronix dual-port WiBox Wireless Device Servers in the CDL lab if it makes the task any easier: https://www.lantronix.com/products/wibox-dual-port/
On 3/27/2019 9:45 PM, Andrew Diller via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I'm considering getting a lantronix or such type term server, i'll see if VCF has one we can use maybe in the warehouse this Sat.
That will allow all our terms to connect to all the hosts via console ports if we can get one.
I also have a Cisco 500-CS (16 ports). I haven't booted it in a while. I have a nice large Cisco ACS (80 port terminal server). I think both qualify as vintage. The ACS sounds like a leaf blower. ;-) -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
The 500-CS looks interesting. It's like the old Xylogics Annex Servers? I.e. some TCPIP port for the lan, and then 16 serial ports? So we can hook up say 4 terminals to 4 serial ports, and say 8 hosts to 8 other ports- and you can mux the terminals to any of the other async ports? And also use the LAN to telnet into the 500 and then connect to a host? Do you have serial cables for it? Actually buying the Lantronix or Xylogics is the easy part- getting 20 serial cables that connect is the hard part :) -andy
On Mar 28, 2019, at 8:54 AM, Neil Cherry via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
On 3/28/19 7:09 AM, Martin Flynn via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
There are a bunch of Lantronix dual-port WiBox Wireless Device Servers in the CDL lab if it makes the task any easier: https://www.lantronix.com/products/wibox-dual-port/ On 3/27/2019 9:45 PM, Andrew Diller via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I'm considering getting a lantronix or such type term server, i'll see if VCF has one we can use maybe in the warehouse this Sat.
That will allow all our terms to connect to all the hosts via console ports if we can get one.
I also have a Cisco 500-CS (16 ports). I haven't booted it in a while. I have a nice large Cisco ACS (80 port terminal server). I think both qualify as vintage. The ACS sounds like a leaf blower. ;-)
-- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
If anyone has something with an ISA slot, I just got an 8 bit, 4 port serial card with the cable. I'm happy to lend it. -J On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 11:39 AM andy diller via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
The 500-CS looks interesting.
It's like the old Xylogics Annex Servers? I.e. some TCPIP port for the lan, and then 16 serial ports?
So we can hook up say 4 terminals to 4 serial ports, and say 8 hosts to 8 other ports- and you can mux the terminals to any of the other async ports? And also use the LAN to telnet into the 500 and then connect to a host?
Do you have serial cables for it?
Actually buying the Lantronix or Xylogics is the easy part- getting 20 serial cables that connect is the hard part :)
-andy
On Mar 28, 2019, at 8:54 AM, Neil Cherry via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
On 3/28/19 7:09 AM, Martin Flynn via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
There are a bunch of Lantronix dual-port WiBox Wireless Device Servers in the CDL lab if it makes the task any easier: https://www.lantronix.com/products/wibox-dual-port/ On 3/27/2019 9:45 PM, Andrew Diller via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I'm considering getting a lantronix or such type term server, i'll see if VCF has one we can use maybe in the warehouse this Sat.
That will allow all our terms to connect to all the hosts via console ports if we can get one.
I also have a Cisco 500-CS (16 ports). I haven't booted it in a while. I have a nice large Cisco ACS (80 port terminal server). I think both qualify as vintage. The ACS sounds like a leaf blower. ;-)
-- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
-- Jason Perkins 313 355 0085
If anyone has something with an ISA slot, I just got an 8 bit, 4 port serial card with the cable. I'm happy to lend it. -J
Software support may or may not be tricky on these! Depends if it's intelligent or not. - Ethan
It's like the old Xylogics Annex Servers? I.e. some TCPIP port for the lan, and then 16 serial ports?
I own a Lucent Portmaster 25 and 3 fan out cables, but it's in Norfolk. I also have extra fan out cables. If somehow I get down there before VCF, I can bring it but would also love to send it to a new home. Also if anyone needs the cables... It can do telnet to IP + port gets you to serial port, or do PPP/Slip on the serial ports. - Ethan
On 3/28/19 11:38 AM, dillera@gmail.com wrote:
The 500-CS looks interesting.
It's like the old Xylogics Annex Servers? I.e. some TCPIP port for the lan, and then 16 serial ports?
I think so. the Cisco can be configured to accept IP connections to ports like 2001 or 4001 (one is translated the other raw) or it can connect the port to an IP address/port number. I also have a Xyplex TS around here but that one is more complex (but can do the same thing).
So we can hook up say 4 terminals to 4 serial ports, and say 8 hosts to 8 other ports- and you can mux the terminals to any of the other async ports? And also use the LAN to telnet into the 500 and then connect to a host?
Yes
Do you have serial cables for it?
Actually buying the Lantronix or Xylogics is the easy part- getting 20 serial cables that connect is the hard part :)
The Cisco cables are the standard for RJ45 (?) to serial cables (Some should be screaming right about ... now *See below). I only have cables that I can't give up. *Note: The standard Cisco uses is the same as the DEC used. I've used these cables on my Xyplex TS, the Cisco TS (not the ACS) including the 500-CS. I think you can take a normal lan cable and plug it into the Serial port on the terminal server and a Cisco router (not into the LAN ports!). -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
Ok - I bit the bullet and got a Cisco 2511 Terminal Server from ebay. It has 16 ports and comes with the cables, so I don't have to worry about those. The cables end in the RJ45 cisco connector so we just need to get a bunch of RJ45 to 9Pin/25Pin connectors which are also plenty-full on ebay. I will buy some for my systems- and may have a few extras but anyone who wants to connect to it should have one for themselves. This will multiplex our Terminals and Console ports of the UNIX systems so that anyone should be able to telnet around to any system's console of they need it, esp if the UNIX host is not on the TCP/IP network (Xenix Lisas). Jason - i've installed Xenix5 on a VM on my mac and will try and see if I can get slip to connect to the Cisco2511 in prep for your Lisas. I'm going to assume they didn't bother to change SLIP much from your versions of XENIX to the SCO OpenUnix versions I was able to download and get running in VirtualBox on the Mac. We'll see. -andy
On Mar 28, 2019, at 8:54 AM, Neil Cherry via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
On 3/28/19 7:09 AM, Martin Flynn via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
There are a bunch of Lantronix dual-port WiBox Wireless Device Servers in the CDL lab if it makes the task any easier: https://www.lantronix.com/products/wibox-dual-port/ On 3/27/2019 9:45 PM, Andrew Diller via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I'm considering getting a lantronix or such type term server, i'll see if VCF has one we can use maybe in the warehouse this Sat.
That will allow all our terms to connect to all the hosts via console ports if we can get one.
I also have a Cisco 500-CS (16 ports). I haven't booted it in a while. I have a nice large Cisco ACS (80 port terminal server). I think both qualify as vintage. The ACS sounds like a leaf blower. ;-)
-- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
Andy, I found an installer disk for UUCP on UniPlus. I'm trying to figure out how to get it loaded in... -J On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 11:41 AM <dillera@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok - I bit the bullet and got a Cisco 2511 Terminal Server from ebay. It has 16 ports and comes with the cables, so I don't have to worry about those.
The cables end in the RJ45 cisco connector so we just need to get a bunch of RJ45 to 9Pin/25Pin connectors which are also plenty-full on ebay. I will buy some for my systems- and may have a few extras but anyone who wants to connect to it should have one for themselves.
This will multiplex our Terminals and Console ports of the UNIX systems so that anyone should be able to telnet around to any system's console of they need it, esp if the UNIX host is not on the TCP/IP network (Xenix Lisas).
Jason - i've installed Xenix5 on a VM on my mac and will try and see if I can get slip to connect to the Cisco2511 in prep for your Lisas. I'm going to assume they didn't bother to change SLIP much from your versions of XENIX to the SCO OpenUnix versions I was able to download and get running in VirtualBox on the Mac. We'll see.
-andy
On Mar 28, 2019, at 8:54 AM, Neil Cherry via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
On 3/28/19 7:09 AM, Martin Flynn via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
There are a bunch of Lantronix dual-port WiBox Wireless Device Servers in the CDL lab if it makes the task any easier: https://www.lantronix.com/products/wibox-dual-port/ On 3/27/2019 9:45 PM, Andrew Diller via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I'm considering getting a lantronix or such type term server, i'll see if VCF has one we can use maybe in the warehouse this Sat.
That will allow all our terms to connect to all the hosts via console ports if we can get one.
I also have a Cisco 500-CS (16 ports). I haven't booted it in a while. I have a nice large Cisco ACS (80 port terminal server). I think both qualify as vintage. The ACS sounds like a leaf blower. ;-)
-- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
-- Jason Perkins 313 355 0085
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