OT: free Cisco managed router/switches
FREE TO A GOOD HOME! Must pick up ASAP: from Elizabeth NJ or at Infoage. A friend gave me his Cisco routers for a Cisco Certification lab he made for himself. They are ALL "managed switches" with the serial console port. 8: Cisco 831 (4: 10/100 LAN, 1: 10-base-t LAN, serial console) 2: Cisco 1721 3: Cisco 1750 3: Cisco 1751 with assorted interface cards -- jeff jonas
Those are really old routers but honestly hold them for Dan Roganti He could probably use them for his Commodore online gaming experiments. He needs a real router/switch that he can configure. On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Jeffrey Jonas via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
FREE TO A GOOD HOME! Must pick up ASAP: from Elizabeth NJ or at Infoage.
A friend gave me his Cisco routers for a Cisco Certification lab he made for himself.
They are ALL "managed switches" with the serial console port.
8: Cisco 831 (4: 10/100 LAN, 1: 10-base-t LAN, serial console) 2: Cisco 1721 3: Cisco 1750 3: Cisco 1751 with assorted interface cards
-- jeff jonas
On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
Those are really old routers but honestly hold them for Dan Roganti
He could probably use them for his Commodore online gaming experiments.
He needs a real router/switch that he can configure.
thanks for the headsup Chris But I managed to build the code in the latest incarnation for the previous VCFeast to run without using Broadcast packets anymore on the server. So I wouldn't need a managed switch to configure the Broadcast ports. I could still use that consumer switch we bought a while ago. The next phase is to remove the expensive Server[C64/SuperCPU] and make it all peer-peer with the clients. Because they are very hard to find and even the clones are rather expensive. Dan
Jeff, One of my techs will take it Martin
On Oct 18, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Jeffrey Jonas via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
FREE TO A GOOD HOME! Must pick up ASAP: from Elizabeth NJ or at Infoage.
A friend gave me his Cisco routers for a Cisco Certification lab he made for himself.
They are ALL "managed switches" with the serial console port.
8: Cisco 831 (4: 10/100 LAN, 1: 10-base-t LAN, serial console) 2: Cisco 1721 3: Cisco 1750 3: Cisco 1751 with assorted interface cards
-- jeff jonas
The Cisco IOS is really too complicated for people without cisco training.. and with tends to be confusing at best. I have a Cisco Meraki MX64, AP18, and MS220-8P for my home network. The Meraki product line is all cloud based (which means once the license expires, they become doorstops). But I got them all for free with 3 year licenses, so I'm good until 2019.. :) You can get the AP for free directly from Cisco Meraki for attending a webinar, with the 3 year license. On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Martin Flynn via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
Jeff, One of my techs will take it
Martin
On Oct 18, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Jeffrey Jonas via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
FREE TO A GOOD HOME! Must pick up ASAP: from Elizabeth NJ or at Infoage.
A friend gave me his Cisco routers for a Cisco Certification lab he made for himself.
They are ALL "managed switches" with the serial console port.
8: Cisco 831 (4: 10/100 LAN, 1: 10-base-t LAN, serial console) 2: Cisco 1721 3: Cisco 1750 3: Cisco 1751 with assorted interface cards
-- jeff jonas
-- Normal Person: Hey, it seems that you know a lot. Geek: To be honest, it's due to all the surfing I do. Normal Person: So you go surfing? Normal Person: But I don't think that has anything to do with knowing a lot... Geek: I think that's wrong on a fundamental level. Normal Person: Huh? Huh? What?
On 10/18/2016 09:40 AM, Joseph Oprysko via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
The Cisco IOS is really too complicated for people without cisco training.. and with tends to be confusing at best.
I couldn't disagree more. I mean, it's a different story if you have to deal with more complicated/dangerous stuff like BGP peering etc, but just getting a basic switch or router up and running is dead simple. But the best part about IOS is that people who know it can practically be found on every block. (or on every mailing list) The community support, due to extremely widespread use, just cannot be beat.
I have a Cisco Meraki MX64, AP18, and MS220-8P for my home network. The Meraki product line is all cloud based (which means once the license expires, they become doorstops). But I got them all for free with 3 year licenses, so I'm good until 2019.. :)
Yay, turn every product into a service. Why get them to pay once, when you can get them to pay over and over! Suits make me sick anymore. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
Dave, I've always worked on large corporate networks, as well as doing network security, so it's always been greatly complicated networks I've worked on. Yes, I agree the device as a service is ridiculous. It makes general administration much easier, as for the licensing, every company I've worked for would usually have the maintenance or service contracts on their hardware while it was in use. I don't like that once the contracts on the Cisco Meraki hardware expires that it ceases functioning. But in a production environment, having the contracts is part of the cost of running/maintaining the network. Since there is no "local" way to manage the hardware, the used hardware once they're taken off a production network, has significantly less value on the back end. But also helps to control 'loss/theft' of said hardware, since each device talks to and is managed centrally. On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On 10/18/2016 09:40 AM, Joseph Oprysko via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
The Cisco IOS is really too complicated for people without cisco training.. and with tends to be confusing at best.
I couldn't disagree more. I mean, it's a different story if you have to deal with more complicated/dangerous stuff like BGP peering etc, but just getting a basic switch or router up and running is dead simple.
But the best part about IOS is that people who know it can practically be found on every block. (or on every mailing list) The community support, due to extremely widespread use, just cannot be beat.
I have a Cisco Meraki MX64, AP18, and MS220-8P for my home network. The Meraki product line is all cloud based (which means once the license expires, they become doorstops). But I got them all for free with 3 year licenses, so I'm good until 2019.. :)
Yay, turn every product into a service. Why get them to pay once, when you can get them to pay over and over! Suits make me sick anymore.
-Dave
-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
-- Normal Person: Hey, it seems that you know a lot. Geek: To be honest, it's due to all the surfing I do. Normal Person: So you go surfing? Normal Person: But I don't think that has anything to do with knowing a lot... Geek: I think that's wrong on a fundamental level. Normal Person: Huh? Huh? What?
On 10/18/2016 02:17 PM, Joseph Oprysko via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Dave, I've always worked on large corporate networks, as well as doing network security, so it's always been greatly complicated networks I've worked on.
Same here, though with different use cases. (ISPs and colo facilities)
Yes, I agree the device as a service is ridiculous. It makes general administration much easier, as for the licensing, every company I've worked for would usually have the maintenance or service contracts on their hardware while it was in use.
Yeah. That's a big luxury for when there's money to burn.
I don't like that once the contracts on the Cisco Meraki hardware expires that it ceases functioning. But in a production environment, having the contracts is part of the cost of running/maintaining the network. Since there is no "local" way to manage the hardware, the used hardware once they're taken off a production network, has significantly less value on the back end. But also helps to control 'loss/theft' of said hardware, since each device talks to and is managed centrally.
It also helps to control the secondary market, which Cisco despises with every fiber of their collective upper-management being. They'd love it if every device suddenly became a brick when the service contract expired, but a real production environment would never tolerate such crap, thank heaven. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
It'd be interesting to dump the firmware ROMs from the older Cisco managed switches, to be honest... Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 18, 2016, at 4:09 PM, Jeffrey Jonas via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
FREE TO A GOOD HOME! Must pick up ASAP: from Elizabeth NJ or at Infoage.
A friend gave me his Cisco routers for a Cisco Certification lab he made for himself.
They are ALL "managed switches" with the serial console port.
8: Cisco 831 (4: 10/100 LAN, 1: 10-base-t LAN, serial console) 2: Cisco 1721 3: Cisco 1750 3: Cisco 1751 with assorted interface cards
-- jeff jonas
I know I have (or maybe had, as not sure WHAT hard drive it would be on) the IOS Firmware for quite a few of Cisco's routers/switches from when I had taken my CCNA classes. But it was back in like 2010 that I took the classes. On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Jonathan Gevaryahu via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
It'd be interesting to dump the firmware ROMs from the older Cisco managed switches, to be honest...
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 18, 2016, at 4:09 PM, Jeffrey Jonas via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
FREE TO A GOOD HOME! Must pick up ASAP: from Elizabeth NJ or at Infoage.
A friend gave me his Cisco routers for a Cisco Certification lab he made for himself.
They are ALL "managed switches" with the serial console port.
8: Cisco 831 (4: 10/100 LAN, 1: 10-base-t LAN, serial console) 2: Cisco 1721 3: Cisco 1750 3: Cisco 1751 with assorted interface cards
-- jeff jonas
-- Normal Person: Hey, it seems that you know a lot. Geek: To be honest, it's due to all the surfing I do. Normal Person: So you go surfing? Normal Person: But I don't think that has anything to do with knowing a lot... Geek: I think that's wrong on a fundamental level. Normal Person: Huh? Huh? What?
On 10/18/2016 10:13 AM, Joseph Oprysko via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I know I have (or maybe had, as not sure WHAT hard drive it would be on) the IOS Firmware for quite a few of Cisco's routers/switches from when I had taken my CCNA classes. But it was back in like 2010 that I took the classes.
I have lots and lots too, if you or anyone else needs them. That directory on my fileserver is sitting at about 29GB at the moment. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
Mine is >100G iirc Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 18, 2016, at 09:45, Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On 10/18/2016 10:13 AM, Joseph Oprysko via vcf-midatlantic wrote: I know I have (or maybe had, as not sure WHAT hard drive it would be on) the IOS Firmware for quite a few of Cisco's routers/switches from when I had taken my CCNA classes. But it was back in like 2010 that I took the classes.
I have lots and lots too, if you or anyone else needs them. That directory on my fileserver is sitting at about 29GB at the moment.
-Dave
-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
Yeaaaaah I need to send you a drive. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA On October 18, 2016 5:33:24 PM Cory Smelosky <b4@gewt.net> wrote:
Mine is >100G iirc
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 18, 2016, at 09:45, Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On 10/18/2016 10:13 AM, Joseph Oprysko via vcf-midatlantic wrote: I know I have (or maybe had, as not sure WHAT hard drive it would be on) the IOS Firmware for quite a few of Cisco's routers/switches from when I had taken my CCNA classes. But it was back in like 2010 that I took the classes.
I have lots and lots too, if you or anyone else needs them. That directory on my fileserver is sitting at about 29GB at the moment.
-Dave
-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
On 10/18/2016 10:04 AM, Jonathan Gevaryahu via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
It'd be interesting to dump the firmware ROMs from the older Cisco managed switches, to be honest...
If you're talking about for historical preservation purposes, good thinking, but they're nowhere near old enough for such concerns. IOS images for those devices are available all over the place. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
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