but I really want to to be able to ssh from my Apple IIe to any of my machines without having to serial tether the Apple IIe to one of my Linux boxes.
Caution: this message may be boring to younger audiences. This is not my technology, but I have interests in 20th C. serial in the 21st century. After noodling the Web and Twitter, my impression is that this item seems to come available briefly, then get sold out; that may repeat or not. I'm not passing judgement, I'm simply reporting what I found. There's any number of WiFi dongles which are a little programmable and which accept serial trans/recieve, and have some other I/O bits. Neil Cherry works with ESP8266 type WiFi dongles, as part of his open IOT activities; he's reported on them in this list. This responds to the "want non-tehered serial" comment above. I think I see one such dongle on this device, on a board that probably includes another processor and some RS-232 type level-converting. One could likely build one with an Arduino - some of them are WiFi without a shield. For fun, you could add a speaker to sound-out the wired-modem buzz-whirr connect sounds. One challenge of vintage use of 21st century connection technology - WiFi, even USB/serial dongles - is how they manage both sides of the 20th century transfer. Translation: USB dongles have hardware buffers (and software drivers) that screw up character processing and other delays, by old MS-DOS programs and old slow microprocessors. I don't know if the WiFi dongles have similar issues. Here's a tech note I wrote recently, reportage on discussions about the above, in an on-line 1802 COSMAC forum. Many 1802 microcomputers were severely limited, even by mid-1970's standards. That's fine, it was a condition of the times. http://www.retrotechnology.com/memship/mship_ttlusb.html Herb -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net
Hi Herb,
my impression is that this item seems to come available briefly, then get sold out; that may repeat or not. I'm not passing judgement, I'm simply reporting what I found.
Being one person, I only sell what I've assembled or put together as a kit. I don't like to sit on folk's money while I work and prefer to ship things immediately. We all know many things in life can come up unexpectedly. I think I see one such dongle on this device, on a board that probably
includes another processor and some RS-232 type level-converting. One could likely build one with an Arduino - some of them are WiFi without a shield. For fun, you could add a speaker to sound-out the wired-modem buzz-whirr connect sounds.
This board does indeed use a ESP8266 WiFi microcontroller and a RS-232 level shifter plus the "modem" firmware that I wrote to "glue" the pieces together for your vintage computer.
One challenge of vintage use of 21st century connection technology - WiFi, even USB/serial dongles - is how they manage both sides of the 20th century transfer. Translation: USB dongles have hardware buffers (and software drivers) that screw up character processing and other delays, by old MS-DOS programs and old slow microprocessors. I don't know if the WiFi dongles have similar issues.
This is certainly still a potential issue. Latency introduced over WiFi will cause problems for things that rely on hard-wired connections to be nearly instantaneous. I've also seen the same buffering issues you describe with USB to RS-232 adapters. Some buffer a much larger amount than others and seems to vary widely. Cheers, -p
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