It has been reported that these two people who were involved with some important vintage computing history have died. Burt Sutherland was a manager at Bolt, Baranek and Newman which helped develop ARPANET, at Xerox PARC and later at Sun Microsystems. He participated in the creation of Smalltalk, Java and Internet. Larry Tesler had worked at Xerox PARC, Apple, Amazon and Yahoo!He was a proponent of human-computer action and modeless software. -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member, VCF East Showrunner Vintage Computer Federation http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey@vcfed.org