Well I did the ill-advised and got the Z890 :P Won the machine for $237, a fair price I'd say :) I may only be 115LBS and the rack alone may have weighted roughly 800LBS, but with the right tools and some friends and family to help out it wasn't too hard to get moved. The most difficult part was the excavation we had to do to get it to fit under the deck! It was a REALLY tight fit as you will see in the photos. It took two trips up to Rutgers to get it all, one with the truck alone to remove most of the innards and another with the trailer as-well to grab the rack. Its already in the basement and most of the way back together, just running the wiring internally for it then I need to wire up a 240v 30a outlet once we get the new breaker box in since there is no more room in the current box. Photos of the whole adventure: http://imgur.com/a/5uWit Very special thanks to Jeff Jonas who was there both days to help out. Along with thanks to my two friends from college that helped and of-course my father who didn't kill me but helped me get into the basement :) -Connor K
...and in case I wasn't clear enough about this yesterday, this is one of the most impressive feats I've seen in many years. :-) Nice job, my friend. Nice job. -Dave On 11/02/2015 05:03 PM, Connor Krukosky via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Well I did the ill-advised and got the Z890 :P Won the machine for $237, a fair price I'd say :) I may only be 115LBS and the rack alone may have weighted roughly 800LBS, but with the right tools and some friends and family to help out it wasn't too hard to get moved. The most difficult part was the excavation we had to do to get it to fit under the deck! It was a REALLY tight fit as you will see in the photos. It took two trips up to Rutgers to get it all, one with the truck alone to remove most of the innards and another with the trailer as-well to grab the rack. Its already in the basement and most of the way back together, just running the wiring internally for it then I need to wire up a 240v 30a outlet once we get the new breaker box in since there is no more room in the current box. Photos of the whole adventure: http://imgur.com/a/5uWit
Very special thanks to Jeff Jonas who was there both days to help out. Along with thanks to my two friends from college that helped and of-course my father who didn't kill me but helped me get into the basement :)
-Connor K
-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
Very impressive indeed, Connor! Did you get the accessories and such to get it booting eventually? Kyle
On 11/2/2015 5:23 PM, Kyle Owen via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Very impressive indeed, Connor! Did you get the accessories and such to get it booting eventually?
Kyle No just the machine, but I will be grabbing a SAN device to attach SCSI via FCP to boot at-least linux for the time being, you need ESCON or FICON storage to boot any IBM OS' as far as I know. For example this will get me some SCSI connectivity via FICON using FCP: http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-2108-G07-Storage-Area-Network-SAN-Data-Gateway-3...
On 11/2/2015 5:26 PM, David Riley wrote:
That thing only takes 6 kW? I'm a little surprised. Spec sheet reads 4.2kW for max load with I/O cage fully loaded. It puts out 14kBTU per hour at that power draw :) Congrats! I'm sure Rutgers was mostly just happy not to have to pay someone to cart it away. :-) Also, good news: you won't have to pay the gas company to heat your house this winter. Yea heh, with no HVAC in the basement atm I can't wait to get it online. You have an unusually tolerant father. Good luck with that thing! That's a neat find. You're bringing it to Festivus, right?
He's been getting less tolerant with the more I try and move down here haha. And in your dreams, unless you want to help move it I don't think so lol.
- Dave
-Connor K
Nice machine, have fun playing with the new toy. Bobby On Monday, November 2, 2015 5:43 PM, Connor Krukosky via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote: On 11/2/2015 5:23 PM, Kyle Owen via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Very impressive indeed, Connor! Did you get the accessories and such to get it booting eventually?
Kyle No just the machine, but I will be grabbing a SAN device to attach SCSI via FCP to boot at-least linux for the time being, you need ESCON or FICON storage to boot any IBM OS' as far as I know. For example this will get me some SCSI connectivity via FICON using FCP: http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-2108-G07-Storage-Area-Network-SAN-Data-Gateway-3...
On 11/2/2015 5:26 PM, David Riley wrote:
That thing only takes 6 kW? I'm a little surprised. Spec sheet reads 4.2kW for max load with I/O cage fully loaded. It puts out 14kBTU per hour at that power draw :) Congrats! I'm sure Rutgers was mostly just happy not to have to pay someone to cart it away. :-) Also, good news: you won't have to pay the gas company to heat your house this winter. Yea heh, with no HVAC in the basement atm I can't wait to get it online. You have an unusually tolerant father. Good luck with that thing! That's a neat find. You're bringing it to Festivus, right?
He's been getting less tolerant with the more I try and move down here haha. And in your dreams, unless you want to help move it I don't think so lol.
- Dave
-Connor K
On Nov 2, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Connor Krukosky via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
Well I did the ill-advised and got the Z890 :P Won the machine for $237, a fair price I'd say :) I may only be 115LBS and the rack alone may have weighted roughly 800LBS, but with the right tools and some friends and family to help out it wasn't too hard to get moved. The most difficult part was the excavation we had to do to get it to fit under the deck! It was a REALLY tight fit as you will see in the photos. It took two trips up to Rutgers to get it all, one with the truck alone to remove most of the innards and another with the trailer as-well to grab the rack. Its already in the basement and most of the way back together, just running the wiring internally for it then I need to wire up a 240v 30a outlet once we get the new breaker box in since there is no more room in the current box.
That thing only takes 6 kW? I'm a little surprised.
Photos of the whole adventure: http://imgur.com/a/5uWit
Congrats! I'm sure Rutgers was mostly just happy not to have to pay someone to cart it away. :-) Also, good news: you won't have to pay the gas company to heat your house this winter.
Very special thanks to Jeff Jonas who was there both days to help out. Along with thanks to my two friends from college that helped and of-course my father who didn't kill me but helped me get into the basement :)
You have an unusually tolerant father. Good luck with that thing! That's a neat find. You're bringing it to Festivus, right? - Dave
On 11/02/2015 05:26 PM, David Riley via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Well I did the ill-advised and got the Z890 :P Won the machine for $237, a fair price I'd say :) I may only be 115LBS and the rack alone may have weighted roughly 800LBS, but with the right tools and some friends and family to help out it wasn't too hard to get moved. The most difficult part was the excavation we had to do to get it to fit under the deck! It was a REALLY tight fit as you will see in the photos. It took two trips up to Rutgers to get it all, one with the truck alone to remove most of the innards and another with the trailer as-well to grab the rack. Its already in the basement and most of the way back together, just running the wiring internally for it then I need to wire up a 240v 30a outlet once we get the new breaker box in since there is no more room in the current box.
That thing only takes 6 kW? I'm a little surprised.
All CMOS and relatively recent. People were trying to paint this as "a vintage mainframe out of some storage room", but it isn't...this is a 64-bit machine with a minimum memory config of 8GB, still supported until the end of next year. Matt and I measured mine this past weekend at about 5A/phase, idle but running. (no DASD) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
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